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I have a question about Safari in Snow Leopard. Will it be 50% faster (as Apple claims) for everyone or just the brand new machines that are shipping now? For example, I have an early 2008 macbook, will I see a tangible increase in speed?

Javascript will be about 50% faster if your machine is capable of running 64 bit apps (Core 2 Duo or Xeon). NOTE: this has nothing to do with running a 64 bit kernel.

You can see the performance figures at apple.com/macosx
 
Who's to say that the SL upgrade disc won't detect you have SL already installed and will allow you to install based on that without having to reinstall all the previous OSes first.

I can't remember where I saw it but I do remember reading somewhere that an SL install will not replace files that have already been updated by an SL update in the future. eg, if you're running 10.6.1 (or whatever) and you need to reinstall, after the reinstall, you'll still be running 10.6.1 (or whatever you were running). I'd assume doing an Erase and Install negates all this.

Of course, take all this with a grain of salt as the product hasn't been released yet.

Assuming that the disk recognises my install then I would have no problems. Unfortunately, I have on occasion managed to render my drive unbootable from software shinanagins, in this case my current leopard upgrade disk screams at me that it wants to see tiger, and so i must reinstall tiger...
I have heard about that feature as well, sounds like a time-saver to me that I'll very much appreciate, as my internet is quite slow (living in Africa) and so updating tends to take days...
 
I can't find my previous post and possible answers to these: 1) will SL allow switching between GPU's? 2) will Amazon also deliver by the 28th?
 
I find it amusing that someone would think that it's naughty to install Snow L on more than one computer.

If you have bought multiple machines from apple don't think twice.

These thing don't grow on trees ya know (oops) :)
 
well I guess those Facebook in Adress Book Screenshots were fake. No mention of it on promo pages or in the screenshots.
 
Assuming that the disk recognises my install then I would have no problems. Unfortunately, I have on occasion managed to render my drive unbootable from software shinanagins, in this case my current leopard upgrade disk screams at me that it wants to see tiger, and so i must reinstall tiger...

And does placing the Tiger DVD in the drive satisfy the installer? If not, this would suggest that one would have to install everything all over again should their hard drive go for any reason if they got Snow Leopard off of an upgrade only disc...

Not good.
 
The UK Amazon site still says Sept 4th for release but I've ordered with them as I get free next day delivery with Amazon PRIME. I'm sure they should receive their copies for Friday though so here's hoping they'll ship it earlyish!
 
And does placing the Tiger DVD in the drive alone do anything? If not, this would suggest that one would have to install everything all over again should there hard drive go for any reason for Snow Leopard...

Not good.

What about TM restore?

Surely, that should work to restore without reinstalling everything. Boot from the upgrade disc, choose Restore from Time Machine Backup ...
 
Assuming that the disk recognises my install then I would have no problems. Unfortunately, I have on occasion managed to render my drive unbootable from software shinanagins, in this case my current leopard upgrade disk screams at me that it wants to see tiger, and so i must reinstall tiger...
I have heard about that feature as well, sounds like a time-saver to me that I'll very much appreciate, as my internet is quite slow (living in Africa) and so updating tends to take days...

Man, you must be doing some freaky **** to render a system unbootable.

Why don't you create your own Software Restore Image once you've got the initial install +applications setup how you want? Makes it much easier to recover.
 
Good question

What about TM restore?

Surely, that should work to restore without reinstalling everything. Boot from the upgrade disc, choose Restore from Time Machine Backup ...

I have had problems with hard drives before and know that sometimes things need to be fully replaced, either from a backup or from install discs.

It would be nice if a TM backup was sufficient, hopefully it will be, otherwise there will be some folks who end up with very long reinstall times, an example already on this thread being an install of Tiger to get the upgrade disc (drop-in) for Leopard to work so that the upgrade disc for Snow Leopard can work:

So wait, I have a MacBook that I purchased late 07, and got me a free Leopard Upgrade disk to go along with it. This leopard disk requires me to install Tiger first to upgrade, otherwise the disk just kicks me out of the instlaller, I imagine that these Snow Leopard $30 disk or the UTD's act very much the same. Now, assuming that I wish to do a completely clean install on my 2007 MacBook, lacking a Box Set disk of Leopard, I must reinstall tiger first, wiping the HD, which requires me to monitor the lengthy hour plus install since the original disks ship on 2 separate CD's. After which I am able to slam in the Leopard disk, and either choose to upgrade or wipe clean again, then wait another hour for the DVD to do its job, before finally being able to slide in my Snow Leopard CD, choosing to erase the disk and perform a clean install )since this was the goal), and upgrading? Even if the Snow Leopard install is twice as fast, a complete clean install will take me minimum 2.5-3 hours. If I ever have a problem (likely, seeing as this MacBook will be used primarily for fooling around in Linux and such, I have a shiny new Pro for the real work), I now have to reinstall 3 whole OS's?
 
i'm posting another reply in this thread cuz it's pretty kick a$$ that snow leopard will be in my hands this friday!

MAC FOREVER BABY
 
And does placing the Tiger DVD in the drive satisfy the installer? If not, this would suggest that one would have to install everything all over again should their hard drive go for any reason if they got Snow Leopard off of an upgrade only disc...

Not good.

Cant say I've tried it, but I dont think it would work, Firstly, the inststaller is running of the dvd in the drive, which I would then need to remove in order to insert the tiger disk. And secondly, the installer specificly searches the Boot drive for an installed version of Tiger.
 
What about TM restore?

Surely, that should work to restore without reinstalling everything. Boot from the upgrade disc, choose Restore from Time Machine Backup ...

Yes well, TM is an option, I do own a 500gb time capsule, but thats already full from my MBP and an iMac, also seeing how TM uses incremental backups this is hardly a viable soulution for my needs, i use this computer to muck around with in the terminal and kernal, I dont want to save a file but rather start clean. Now, a bootable Image of a clean install is an idea, I guess I could use SuperDuper! to achieve this, but I dont currently have a spare external hard drive ATM. This does look like the best solution anyway, and faster/easier than what I'm currently doing anyway.
 
Javascript will be about 50% faster if your machine is capable of running 64 bit apps (Core 2 Duo or Xeon). NOTE: this has nothing to do with running a 64 bit kernel.

You can see the performance figures at apple.com/macosx

Sweet. That's what I was looking for. I already find Safari to be the snappiest browser, this could be interesting.
 
Man, you must be doing some freaky **** to render a system unbootable.

Why don't you create your own Software Restore Image once you've got the initial install +applications setup how you want? Makes it much easier to recover.

Haha, not really mate, I just enjoy getting down and dirty and playing around in the kernal a little bit, playing with Linux usually ends up annoying my boot partition after a while and a few distros. As I said earlier, a bootable image of a clean state seems like a good way to go, Soon as i can grab a new external drive I'll be sure to go this route. Cheers
 
What do you mean by default? The only mac that ships the kernel as 64bit by default is the XServe. All other macs ship with the 32bit kernel by default.

Yes, all Intel Core 2 Duos are 64bit capable, they just don't ship with it enabled by default yet.

Do you have more than 32GB of RAM? If not, a 64bit kernel isn't going to make a lot of difference.

Ah, thanks (you too, https://forums.macrumors.com/members/108833/). I guess I'm still not understanding 100% the implications of 64bit Kernel. So I figure most of the speed boost comes from the 64 bit applications which can run seamlessly on a 32 bit Kernel. And lots of the little applications like the Finder are now 64 bit and thus potentially faster.

It's still weird that they advertize the 64 bit kernel so much if it's only relevant for XServes.

Oh well, transitioning to Snow Leopard will be fun I guess. Between Tiger and Leopard, lots of things weren't compatible and getting your old data to integrate with the new system can be tricky.
 
This does not bode well

Cant say I've tried it, but I dont think it would work, Firstly, the inststaller is running of the dvd in the drive, which I would then need to remove in order to insert the tiger disk. And secondly, the installer specificly searches the Boot drive for an installed version of Tiger.

While of course we cannot say for sure, I'm getting the feeling that if Snow Leopard came from an upgrade disk then it will be essential that Leopard is installed on the drive. Temporarily swapping the Leopard disk for the Snow Leopard disk to prove to the installer that the software can be legitimately installed - as can be done with software provided by other manufacturers - might just not be an option.

However, this is just speculation. Hopefully not true, I have had to do full installs of old software in the past just so that I could install an upgrade version. It takes up a lot of time!
 
And does placing the Tiger DVD in the drive satisfy the installer? If not, this would suggest that one would have to install everything all over again should their hard drive go for any reason if they got Snow Leopard off of an upgrade only disc...

Not good.

Well, there ya go. Now you know why Apple is offering the Mac Boxed Set. You get the whole (non-checking) version in that package. You get what you pay for, you want it cheap, you get less convenience.
 
Who's actually going to camp outside Apple (Regents Street, London) Thursday night? Anyone?

WILL we really get a new T-shirt?

Once I met Phil Schiller and asked him why they didn't add an apparel/collectible section in their shop, so people can buy Apple T-Shirts, caps, buttons etc. All he said.. "Good idea"... to which I have to say... left me with nothing. :/

I mean it's not like they didn't do this once before... I've got tons of stuff from back in the day when they did this via their promo departments.

Ah well... I guess that'd be too much anyway... still I wouldn't mind having a button or a few extra stickers.
 
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