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What do you mean by Drop-in discs?

Will they still have to pay 9.95 to upgrade?

And when will macs come preloaded with SL.

Drop-in discs are upgrade discs that are slipped into the boxes at the retail stores. You have to do the upgrade yourself, but you don't have to pay or wait.
 
What do you mean by Drop-in discs?

Will they still have to pay 9.95 to upgrade?

And when will macs come preloaded with SL.

A drop-in disc is a disc they drop into the box of all sealed machines currently in stock that do not have Snow Leopard pre-installed.

No, they will not have to pay US$9.95 to upgrade come Friday, only if they bought the machine between June 8th and August 28th will they need to buy the Up To Date disc.

Macs will come pre-loaded with Snow Leopard eventually, possibly as early as Friday but most likely with each successive shipment after Friday.
 
don't do it. anything with a 32 bit driver won't work. this includes pretty much every printer in existence. the 64 bit kernel (that my poor old 2006 mac pro can't utilize) won't be at all useful for 99.9% of users for a while, until software and hardware companies re-write their drivers in 64 bit. and if you have older (3 years old) printers like me, you probably will never get 64 bit drivers for them.

You've got a printer that installs kernel extensions (kexts)? Ouch. My DocuPrint525A works perfectly.

Have a look at Startup Mode Selector for good explanations of the whole 32/64 bit confusion from people. They also have a little app that will check your 32/64 bit support of your machine.
 
Admitting to your intended piracy on an IP-logged public forum isn't the smartest thing ... Why don't you just torrent it? That way, you wouldn't have to wait.

Ahahaha this is priceless. You think torrenting is better than me installing my 29 dollar disc on two computers? At least I paid for the disc.

Also, I own both of the computers. It's not piracy. And honestly, Apple is not reading this forum and is not going to come after me over saying that. Seriously this forum is the biggest concentration of EULA abiding perfect citizens I have ever seen on the net.
 
Yah they should really do that. It's pretty annoying installing OS ontop of OS ontop of OS

It's also pretty annoying when you have to put in an activation code and then activate your OS copy, which is something Apple DOESN'T make you do. Sheesh no matter which way you have to install SL it's much easier and more convenient than Windows. :p
 
Tiger to Snow Leopard

So wait, I have a MacBook that I purchased late 07, and got me a free Leopard Upgrade disk to go along with it. This leopard disk requires me to install Tiger first to upgrade, otherwise the disk just kicks me out of the instlaller, I imagine that these Snow Leopard $30 disk or the UTD's act very much the same. Now, assuming that I wish to do a completely clean install on my 2007 MacBook, lacking a Box Set disk of Leopard, I must reinstall tiger first, wiping the HD, which requires me to monitor the lengthy hour plus install since the original disks ship on 2 separate CD's. After which I am able to slam in the Leopard disk, and either choose to upgrade or wipe clean again, then wait another hour for the DVD to do its job, before finally being able to slide in my Snow Leopard CD, choosing to erase the disk and perform a clean install )since this was the goal), and upgrading? Even if the Snow Leopard install is twice as fast, a complete clean install will take me minimum 2.5-3 hours. If I ever have a problem (likely, seeing as this MacBook will be used primarily for fooling around in Linux and such, I have a shiny new Pro for the real work), I now have to reinstall 3 whole OS's?
 
So wait, I have a MacBook that I purchased late 07, and got me a free Leopard Upgrade disk to go along with it. This leopard disk requires me to install Tiger first to upgrade, otherwise the disk just kicks me out of the instlaller, I imagine that these Snow Leopard $30 disk or the UTD's act very much the same. Now, assuming that I wish to do a completely clean install on my 2007 MacBook, lacking a Box Set disk of Leopard, I must reinstall tiger first, wiping the HD, which requires me to monitor the lengthy hour plus install since the original disks ship on 2 separate CD's. After which I am able to slam in the Leopard disk, and either choose to upgrade or wipe clean again, then wait another hour for the DVD to do its job, before finally being able to slide in my Snow Leopard CD, choosing to erase the disk and perform a clean install )since this was the goal), and upgrading? Even if the Snow Leopard install is twice as fast, a complete clean install will take me minimum 2.5-3 hours. If I ever have a problem (likely, seeing as this MacBook will be used primarily for fooling around in Linux and such, I have a shiny new Pro for the real work), I now have to reinstall 3 whole OS's?

Or, you could insert the SL upgrade disc and choose Erase and Install.
 
too bad all my computers wont really benefit from this upgrade, it looks really nice!!

MBP CD x1600
iMac 2.8GHz HD 2600 Pro
iBook G4..

only the Intel machines will benefit from GCD, but not that much i guess... ahwell
 
why are you defending Apple and piracy protection? What has apple done for you?

Me?

I'm not defending Apple specifically, rather IP rights of people that create. Without turning this into PRSI, if people take what they want because they feel like it, two things can happen.

1) Draconian protection measures can be implemented. This hurts those legitimate users because the people taking the IP will find a way to do so.

2) People will stop putting so much effort into creating IP, because they feel shafted in the effort/reward department. This hurts everyone.
 
You guys should watch this movie.

"The Pirates of Silicon Valley"

He who steals from a thief, has 100 years of pardon.
 
why are you defending Apple and piracy protection? What has apple done for you?

It's good that forum members remind other forum members that piracy is a no no and we should not condone it here when people brag about what they've downloaded, copied or used on multiple computers when it should be used on one.
 
2) People will stop putting so much effort into creating IP, because they feel shafted in the effort/reward department. This hurts everyone.

Harvard Business School calls bullsh*t: http://www.hbs.edu/research/pdf/09-132.pdf

As this essay has made clear, we do not yet have a full understanding of the mechanisms by which file sharing may have altered the incentives to produce entertainment. However, in the industry with the largest purported impact – music – consumer access to recordings has vastly improved since the advent of file haring. Since 2000, the number of recordings produced has more than doubled. In our view, this makes it difficult to argue that weaker copyright protection has had a negative impact on artists’ incentives to be creative.
 
why are you defending Apple and piracy protection? What has apple done for you?

Should've multi-quoted but oh well.

Answer to your question. Apple has provided us with an alternative computing experience when we could be stuck with crappy MS Windows and those cheapo PC's that it's installed on.
 
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