There were a lot of other things that happened during that time that influenced the music industry. The paper is inconclusive.
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Apple Announces August 28th Availability of Snow Leopard
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There were a lot of other things that happened during that time that influenced the music industry. The paper is inconclusive.
This is starting to sounding like a Christian based forum. "Do as I say not as I do". Stop placing your judgement values on what people are doing. No one is telling you to pirate software. Why are YOU telling others what to do? Live and let live, and keep your morals to yourself.
But the installer would just quit when it notices that I'm not running Leopard right? ATM my MacBook is indeed running leopard, but my point is that when I mess up the computer (which will happen eventually, it always does) previously I've already had a long clean reinstall process involving 3 disks and 2 OS's, not counting any downloadable updates afterwards, to go through. Now with SL, I must add on another disk and OS to this already convoluted process? This would involve watching 3 Welcome videos, going through the New Account and Migration utilities 3 times, and hours of my time all just to get a clean reinstall?? I've had to go through a complete reinstall with Leopard on this machine alone a good half dozen times in the last 2 years, when 10.9 comes out does this mean that I will have to deal with 6 OS system installs to get a clean reinstall to the latest software? You cant tell me that makes sense.
I have a question about Safari in Snow Leopard. Will it be 50% faster (as Apple claims) for everyone or just the brand new machines that are shipping now? For example, I have an early 2008 macbook, will I see a tangible increase in speed?
How old are some of you on here?? I mean seriously? Typical that you would just attack me. I answered someone's question and you attack me. Grow up.
If Apple have any sense, it won't be difficult
Upgrade versions of software from other manufacturers often only require that you insert the CD/DVD of the older software if it is not already on the hard drive - they just need proof that you are eligible for the upgrade and legitimately installing the software. One would have thought Apple would do the same, unless past experiences show this not to be the case. In any event, we'll all know on Friday evening - that's how long it will take for someone to try it and see.
Also, have you tried doing the clean install on your current system with only the later OS to see what happens?
Upgrade versions of software from other manufacturers often only require that you insert the CD/DVD of the older software if it is not already on the hard drive - they just need proof that you are eligible for the upgrade and legitimately installing the software. One would have thought Apple would do the same, unless past experiences show this not to be the case. In any event, we'll all know on Friday evening - that's how long it will take for someone to try it and see.
Also, have you tried doing the clean install on your current system with only the later OS to see what happens?
"It's good that forum members remind other forum members that piracy is a no no."
A "no no"... lol
You sound like my mother. How old are you?
Who's to say that the SL upgrade disc won't detect you have SL already installed and will allow you to install based on that without having to reinstall all the previous OSes first.
I can't remember where I saw it but I do remember reading somewhere that an SL install will not replace files that have already been updated by an SL update in the future. eg, if you're running 10.6.1 (or whatever) and you need to reinstall, after the reinstall, you'll still be running 10.6.1 (or whatever you were running). I'd assume doing an Erase and Install negates all this.
Of course, take all this with a grain of salt as the product hasn't been released yet.
And your statement that piracy stifles innovation is backed with about as much evidence as the flat earth society. There's simply no proof that piracy leads to less creativity. You may continue to believe so, but evidence suggests otherwise. Hollywood is not disappearing but pump out movies at an ever increasing rate. Music is produced in record numbers. The software industry, and above all Apple, is doing quite well. Games are becoming ever more advanced, expensive, and profitable.
That people are putting less effort into creating software or culture (IP is a legal construct, not something you create) due to file-sharing has no empirical basis, and that's hardly inconclusive.
Ordered mine from Apple Canadian Store.
Unlike most people here it says ships by August 28th and not delivered by August 28th.
I also ordered mine from Apple Canadian Store and it also says ships by August 28, but I called apple to ask them about this and the lady told me it would actually deliver by August 28, (she had to ask someone). So hopefully we get it in time.
What? You equate morality with being Christian? You offended me who is a Buddhist...
Of course we're mostly of your parents' age! Grow up, you work and you earn your living. The same is true for the employees at Apple. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, right?
And please stop equating morality with being Christian, thank you
and that's fine with me. I don't want to have a fully 64 bit OS X just for the sake of it. I'm happy to wait until 10.7 before I go 64 bit - if I need it.
Quick question: Is there any benefit in booting the 64 bit kernel on a machine that is 64 bit capable, but not supported by default liuke a late 2009 MBP (13")? I mean, is there a reason it's 64 fault on only a few machines? I thought the Core 2 Duos were all 64 bit capable.
The Safari 4 in Snow Leopard is the same as Safari 4 available for download, try it and see for yourself. Note, that Apple's benchmarks represent Safari's ability to render web pages and flash/javascript, a new version of safari will not magically make your internet faster, ie. Your download speed is not gonna see a 1.5 times increase because you updated your browser software.
Quick question: Is there any benefit in booting the 64 bit kernel on a machine that is 64 bit capable, but not supported by default liuke a late 2009 MBP (13")? I mean, is there a reason it's 64 fault on only a few machines? I thought the Core 2 Duos were all 64 bit capable.
They are all 64bit capable, but apple doesnt want people to use 64 bit til its POLISHED. you can still use it by pressing 6 and 4 on boot
Quantity ≠ quality.
Not everything the Hollywood/music/game industry puts out is creative, most movies/games/music are just a rehash of a previous work.
according to apple, 64 bit improves application speed by 1-1.5x. The 64bit kernels will likely help the boot process and the speed of some under-the-hood processes but NOT help any applications that apple ships 64bit with SL.
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Ahh, noobs. Not worth my time. Stay on topic rather attack others.
lol... who attacking who with your piracy is a "no no" comment?
Keep your morals at church where they belong.
I'm just sayin'...
Quick question: Is there any benefit in booting the 64 bit kernel on a machine that is 64 bit capable, but not supported by default liuke a late 2009 MBP (13")? I mean, is there a reason it's 64 fault on only a few machines? I thought the Core 2 Duos were all 64 bit capable.
What do you mean by default? The only mac that ships the kernel as 64bit by default is the XServe. All other macs ship with the 32bit kernel by default.
Yes, all Intel Core 2 Duos are 64bit capable, they just don't ship with it enabled by default yet.
Do you have more than 32GB of RAM? If not, a 64bit kernel isn't going to make a lot of difference.