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What about TM restore?

Surely, that should work to restore without reinstalling everything. Boot from the upgrade disc, choose Restore from Time Machine Backup ...

I once tried out a full TM restore and ince it said something was corrupted and I couldn't do a restore. One other time the system just did not look as before. Also most of the e-Mails and Address Book entries were gone.

Time Machine doesn't replace a full image copy IMO because it doen't copy some systems files to the backup.
 
Who's actually going to camp outside Apple (Regents Street, London) Thursday night? Anyone?

WILL we really get a new T-shirt?

Once I met Phil Schiller and asked him why they didn't add an apparel/collectible section in their shop, so people can buy Apple T-Shirts, caps, buttons etc. All he said.. "Good idea"... to which I have to say... left me with nothing. :/

I mean it's not like they didn't do this once before... I've got tons of stuff from back in the day when they did this via their promo departments.

Ah well... I guess that'd be too much anyway... still I wouldn't mind having a button or a few extra stickers.

Totally off topic, but I would buy Apple gear if they sold it...

And back on topic, I sure hope they have the new T-shirts! But I won't be getting mine in the UK, seeing as I live in the US. But I'm definitely thinking about camping out. College hasn't started yet so its not like I have anything better to do :D
 
For what it's worth, here's something that might help address some questions about the Snow Leopard install process. I don't know if the "Apple Experts" on the store's chat support know anything, but here's what they had to say...

Apple: Hi, my name is [redacted]. Welcome to Apple! Good evening. How may I help you today?
Me: Hi, I have a question about Snow Leopard.
Apple: I'm happy to assist with that.
Me: I have a MacBook that I haven't used in a few months, due to a hard drive failure. The machine is, unfortunately, no longer under AppleCare.
Apple: I am sorry to hear that!
Me: It was pretty upsetting, but hey... I know I need to backup from now on!
Apple: I definitely agree, backing up is very important!
Me: There isn't an Apple retail store anywhere near where I live, however there are a couple Apple authorized service providers.
Apple: What can I do to assist?
Me: Well... They can fix my MacBook by replacing the drive (for a cost, obviously). However, they won't install Leopard on it -- just the cost for a replacement drive and the labor charge.
Apple: Ok sure.
Me: So I was wondering, can I buy Snow Leopard and install it on the drive? Or do I need to do something else. The people at this place in town said Snow Leopard was "upgrade only" or something like that. But I had Leopard on my MacBook before it crashed...
Apple: You should be able to install Leopard first with the discs that came with your computer. Once you do that you can then install Snow Leopard with the upgrade.
Me: I see, I see. Okay, that shouldn't be too difficult! I just have to find the box now...
Apple: May I help with any other product or order questions before you proceed?
Me: Nope, thanks for the help!
Apple: You're welcome. Thank you for visiting the Apple Store. We appreciate your business. If you would like more help, please chat with us again.

(Note that I made this whole situation up, as I tried this several times and Apple shot me down with their BS statements.) The bolded statement indicates that for a clean install of the OS, you will have to either first install Leopard or get the Mac Box Set.
 
Finally, but all in all we all knew it would come out the 28th

I pre-ordered from Amazon, do they try to deliver on the same day?


Amazon sometimes gives you the option of 'release-day shipping' which I believe is free or the same price as standard shipping, and it arrives at your doorstep the same day it is released in stores.
However this is for products that are highly anticipated for, like the Sims 3.
You'll have to check on Amazon.
 
any idea why my order page still says shipped: september????

im on the up-to-date program.

As I've said many times in this thread before, if you live in the US, you will receive your copy of Snow Leopard on Friday, regardless of what your shipping status says. This has been confirmed by multiple Apple Reps. They say that the ship date will change when they prepare your copy of Snow Leopard for shipping.
 
It's still weird that they advertize the 64 bit kernel so much if it's only relevant for XServes.

They aren't specifically advertising the 64 bit kernel. They're advertising a 64 bit OS. Almost everything they've done on top of the kernel is 64 bit. You can run a 32 bit kernel and still take advantage of 64 bit apps etc.

I tend to think of SL as one more step in the transition to 64 bit across the board. Going 64 bit now will break a lot of kernel extensions and degrade peoples experiences and will generate a lot of bad press for Apple.

I'd expect 10.7 whenever it's released will have the 64 bit kernel enabled by default.
 
two questions 1. best buy will sell snow leopard correct? 2. is there a list anywhere on which macs can boot into a 64 bit Kernel or is it just all core 2 duos?thanks :)
 
I also ordered mine from Apple Canadian Store and it also says ships by August 28, but I called apple to ask them about this and the lady told me it would actually deliver by August 28, (she had to ask someone). So hopefully we get it in time.

Thanks for the info. :D
 
Who's actually going to camp outside Apple (Regents Street, London) Thursday night? Anyone?

WILL we really get a new T-shirt?

Once I met Phil Schiller and asked him why they didn't add an apparel/collectible section in their shop, so people can buy Apple T-Shirts, caps, buttons etc. All he said.. "Good idea"... to which I have to say... left me with nothing. :/

I mean it's not like they didn't do this once before... I've got tons of stuff from back in the day when they did this via their promo departments.

Ah well... I guess that'd be too much anyway... still I wouldn't mind having a button or a few extra stickers.

Just make a trip to the store at their Cupertino campus. Problem solved with regards to branded clothing. :)
 
Well, there ya go. Now you know why Apple is offering the Mac Boxed Set. You get the whole (non-checking) version in that package. You get what you pay for, you want it cheap, you get less convenience.

Normally I'd be happy to pay the full $129, but Apple arn't offerring it. The only version is the box set at 160, and its not worth it for me considering I've got iWork and iLife 09 already. I dont believe 160 dollars is worth a little added convenience, considering Snow Leopard is hardly a major release feature wise. Especially considering I bought my MBP within the 90 days and am elligible for the 9.95 upgrade, but I'd consider 30 a steal in any case. Besides, I live in Africa. To get the Box Set here would end up costing me well over $200. In any case, I think I've decided to go the route of purchasing SuperDuper or something similar to clone my clean drive, seems like a better solution.
 
As I've said many times in this thread before, if you live in the US, you will receive your copy of Snow Leopard on Friday, regardless of what your shipping status says. This has been confirmed by multiple Apple Reps. They say that the ship date will change when they prepare your copy of Snow Leopard for shipping.

alright thanks. sorry didnt go through all 40+ pages of the thread. meaning if im from singapore i wont get it on the 28th? if thats the case, thats pretty screwed!!! :mad:

im hoping i'll get it on friday though.
 
For people who use the dev build, how's the kernel selected at boot? Is rEFIt still working with it?

Thanks
 
So why did they hype the address space in 10.5 and now again in 10.6?

And how many apps could use the extra ram in 10.4?

For the same reason that they claimed "first 64-bit desktop computer" with 10.3, even though 10.3 was completely unable to run 64-bit code.

It sold computers.
 
As I've said many times in this thread before, if you live in the US, you will receive your copy of Snow Leopard on Friday, regardless of what your shipping status says. This has been confirmed by multiple Apple Reps. They say that the ship date will change when they prepare your copy of Snow Leopard for shipping.

I hope you're right but there's nothing that confirms that. "Ships August 28th" is the not the same as "Delivers ON August 28th". People going to the Apple store will get it on Friday. Online orders may be different.
 
that is one damn funny looking animal on the box cover.

snowleopard.jpg
 
I hope you're right but there's nothing that confirms that. "Ships August 28th" is the not the same as "Delivers ON August 28th". People going to the Apple store will get it on Friday. Online orders may be different.

If you ordered it today, not through the Up-to-Date program, but through the regular store, it says Delivered Aug. 28.
 
alright thanks. sorry didnt go through all 40+ pages of the thread. meaning if im from singapore i wont get it on the 28th? if thats the case, thats pretty screwed!!! :mad:

im hoping i'll get it on friday though.

I know, this thread is pretty crazy long. I wasn't trying to be mean.
Anyways, as for whether or not you'll get it on the 28th in Singapore, I'm not saying that you won't, I'm just confirming that if you live in the US you will definitely get Snow Leopard on the 28th, so long as you order it by Wednesday.

So don't despair yet, you may still get it on Friday!
 
UP TO DATE ORDERS shipping UPDATED!!

If you live in the US, yes you will get it by Friday. I had this confirmed by 2 different Apple Reps

throughout the day i've been trying to determine if those of us who have ordered Up To Date SL will receive our disks with the rest of the SL ppl. I spoke to 2 different Apple CSR's and got 2 separate answers. As of this evening my shipping date has been modified from 'September' to the following:
Jul 6, 2009 at 07:27 AM PDT - Order number W47008318
View order details Not yet shipped
Product
MAC OS X 10.6 SNOW LEOPARD FULLFIL-INT
Qty. 1

Ships: By August 28th
This is for the UP TO DATE orders!
 
I know, this thread is pretty crazy long. I wasn't trying to be mean.
Anyways, as for whether or not you'll get it on the 28th in Singapore, I'm not saying that you won't, I'm just confirming that if you live in the US you will definitely get Snow Leopard on the 28th, so long as you order it by Wednesday.

So don't despair yet, you may still get it on Friday!

alright man thanks. im keeping my fingers crossed.

hahaha yea. i woke up this morning, i saw an RSS feed on my apple mail saying their shipping on 28th, and i came to MR expecting at least a thousand reply thread. i wasnt disappointed. hahahahah

and now time for a HD upgrade in time for SL. :D
 
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