No, you have to stay in a 5g area at all times and not wander out of it.
Apple is said to be releasing a 4g iphone early next year, and for Third World countries a 2g iphone next fall. Maybe look into those?
Shame they're not backwards compatible
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Apple Announces Digital-Only Event to Be Held on October 13: iPhone 12 Expected
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Apple is said to be releasing a 4g iphone early next year, and for Third World countries a 2g iphone next fall. Maybe look into those?
Shame they're not backwards compatible
All iPhones are unlocked now unless you buy on installments from the Carrier. There is no downside that I’m aware of.
I was wondering why Apple TV got no mention at all in the list.
Frankly, I expect if they do end up doing an A14X version, with an actual game controller, to go up against the consoles, that likely won’t be out until the spring. If we see an Apple TV now, it’ll be one with the A12X/Z chip and a revised remote.
They’re unlikely to release the A14X into an Apple TV before it goes into an iPad Pro, and they’re not going to announce iPad Pros at this even after having an iPad/Watch event a few weeks ago. It’s going to be busy enough with the whole lineup of iPhones, and some subset of “accessories” variants [ AirPods, HomePods, AirTags, Apple TV ]. I’d also venture a guess that they won’t want to introduce anything faster than the iPhone at the iPhone event, so they can make maximum press about how great the new A14 is. So, iPhone and some accessory devices now, ARM Mac in a month, iPad Pro and potential A14X Apple TV w/controller in the spring.
So, was the delay due to engineering required for sleep/wake touchID like the iPad Air?
Apple today announced a second 2020 event, which is set to be held on Tuesday, October 13 at 10:00 a.m. on the Apple Park campus in Cupertino, California. As with Apple's September event focusing on the new iPad and Apple Watches, the October event will be digital only, with Apple likely providing pre-taped segments for each new product that will be announced.
Since the new iPad Air, eighth-generation iPad, and Apple Watch Series 6 have already been announced, the October event is expected to be Apple's iPhone-centric event with Apple introducing the new iPhone 12 lineup.
iPhone 12 Lineup
We're expecting four iPhones in three sizes in 2020. The iPhone 12, which will be the more affordable iPhone model available, will come in 5.4 and 6.1-inch size options. The 5.4-inch iPhone will be the smallest iPhone that Apple has released in years, and rumors suggest it could even be called the "iPhone 12 mini."
The higher-end flagship iPhone models, expected to be called the iPhone 12 Pro and iPhone 12 Pro Max, will come in 6.1 and 6.7-inch size options, with the 6.7-inch iPhone featuring the largest display size that Apple has introduced to date.
All four iPhones will feature edge-to-edge OLED displays with Face ID functionality and front-facing TrueDepth cameras. Despite some early rumors of smaller notches, it doesn't look like the notch is shrinking on most models, but we can expect a proportional notch on the smallest 5.4-inch model. This will be the first time that Apple has used OLED display technology across the iPhone lineup.
Apple is also expected to introduce 5G support for all of the iPhone 12 models, though the fastest mmWave 5G could potentially be limited to the higher end models while more affordable models get Sub-6GHz 5G. Sub-6Ghz 5G is the 5G that's expected to be used in most places (with mmWave coming to urban areas) and you can read more about the differences in our guide.
The 2020 iPhone lineup will feature a redesign with the iPhones adopting an iPad Pro-style look that does away with the rounded edges that have been used since the iPhone 6 in favor of more squared, flat edges.
New camera technology is expected, with the high-end Pro iPhone models expected to gain LiDAR Scanners similar to the LiDAR Scanner introduced in the iPad Pro. All of the new iPhones will use the faster 5-nanometer A14 chips that Apple first introduced in the 2020 iPad Air, which should bring solid performance and efficiency improvements.
Because 5G technology is expensive, Apple is planning to eliminate the power adapter and earbuds that traditionally come with an iPhone, instead offering a separate power adapter for purchase. A braided Lightning to USB-C cable could be included, however, and the power adapter rumor has been all but confirmed by the Series 6 Apple Watches, which were also shipped without a power adapter.
Apple has stuck to September events and releases for new iPhones for years now, but the global health pandemic delayed the launch of new iPhones, and given the delay, Apple also decided to delay its traditional September event. Apple in July confirmed that this year's models would launch "a few weeks later" than the normal September timeframe.
Rumors suggest that the first iPhone 12 models will see an October launch, perhaps not too long after the event is held, but some of the iPhone models, such as the iPhone 12 Pro Max, could be delayed even longer. We may not see the availability of the full iPhone 12 lineup until November.
Read more about the iPhone 12 in our dedicated iPhone 12 roundup.
AirPods Studio
Apple is working on high-end over-ear headphones that are a part of the AirPods family, offering an over-ear alternative to the AirPods and the AirPods Pro. Rumors suggest the AirPods Studio will cost $349 and will offer Active Noise Cancellation and a retro-style design.
AirPods Studio are expected before the end of the year, so Apple's October event alongside new iPhones would be an ideal time for Apple to introduce them.
AirTags
AirTags are Apple's long-rumored Bluetooth trackers that can attach to items like wallets and keys, letting them be tracked right in the Find My app alongside iPhones, iPads, and Macs. We've been expecting AirTags for quite some time now and we could finally see them in October.
Smaller HomePod
There's supposed to be a smaller, less expensive HomePod in the works to accompany the existing HomePod, and rumors indicate that it's coming before the end of the year.
Arm-Based Mac
We're expecting the first Arm-based Macs this year, which could come in the form of a refreshed MacBook Air and a redesigned 23 or 24-inch iMac. Most Arm-based Mac rumors suggest a launch later in the year, so there's no confirmation that we're going to see them at the October event.
MacRumors Event Coverage
Apple plans to stream the fall iPhone event live on its Events website, on YouTube, and on the Apple TV when it kicks off at 10:00 a.m. Pacific Time. For those unable to watch, MacRumors will be providing full event coverage both on MacRumors.com and through the MacRumorsLive Twitter account.
Apple's Events website, when viewed on an iPhone, includes a tappable augmented reality image that features an animated logo for the event that expands from a series of concentric circles into 3D spheres with the October 13 date image.
Apple has also shared a placeholder for its YouTube livestream on YouTube, so those who plan to watch that way can set a reminder.
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That sunnuvabuck Cook is trying to show up the Oculus Quest 2 debut.
Well I, for one, won't stand for it. I won't stand for it, I tell you!!
Well I, for one, won't stand for it. I won't stand for it, I tell you!!
@MacRumors,..you've forgotten to mention the upgraded Apple TV, which will be announced next week ;-)
Day one iPhone 6 owner. I am very excited to be upgrading to an iPhone 12 finally.
Meh. Apple is roughly $24 off its 52-week high; if it were to get back there (not unreasonable at all) you'd hardly have to buy 50 shares to make enough money for a phone.
The math is not that hard... the real problem is timing. Waiting for it to get back to $137 would be painful, and you'd see a lot of iPhone 12s in the wild before you might be able to buy one with stock profits. Not to mention that selling 50 shares of AAPL just to recoup the money for a phone would be a silly, short-sighted move. Buy Apple for keeps.
...or last decade or so.
I'm still rocking a Pioneer plasma. It is still a fantastic performer for our use case, and the old 3rd-gen Apple TV hooked up to it is enough of a brain transplant for that admittedly "dumb" tv.
Anyone else kind of confused by the push for 5G when a lot of populated areas still hardly get 3G reception? My suburban area is perpetually at one bar 😅
Anyone else kind of confused by the push for 5G when a lot of populated areas still hardly get 3G reception? My suburban area is perpetually at one bar
Nope. 5G is rapidly expanding around here.
Not that I miss my hour long commute, but I do miss listening to music. Since quarantine, I will watch youtube videos with one earbud in, but I don't like the feeling of having both ears plugged and not being able to hear what's going on around me. Just today I started using a bluetooth speaker in the kitchen while making dinner, and it really helps with my end of day mood.
For the first time, looking forward to a small HomePod. Since I live in a small apartment with 2 other people, volume click 1 will be my friend and hoping the bass heavy "bose-ish" sound of the HomePod still exists at low volume. The aesthetic of being plain and fading in is great, and not being a device with a screen and not being a bluetooth device, so if I get a text while music is playing, I don't get an annoying ding.
For the first time, looking forward to a small HomePod. Since I live in a small apartment with 2 other people, volume click 1 will be my friend and hoping the bass heavy "bose-ish" sound of the HomePod still exists at low volume. The aesthetic of being plain and fading in is great, and not being a device with a screen and not being a bluetooth device, so if I get a text while music is playing, I don't get an annoying ding.
Go to the Apple Events Website and tap on the Logo for AR.
Apple Events
Explore the next generation of iPhone — iPhone 17 Pro, iPhone 17, iPhone Air. Plus, AirPods Pro 3 and additions to the Apple Watch family.www.apple.com
My kids had a ball playing with it on my iPhone.
If we see an iPhone 12 mini AND an ARM MacBook with 1080p FaceTime camera, this will be the best Apple event for me personally since Steve Jobs left the helm. I'm ready to upgrade my 2016 iPhone SE and 2012 MBA.
Lucky. You must live in a dense area?
I'm in a west coast suburb and the connection is spotty at best. My college campus is a dead zone. It sucks
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I’m definitely not in a dense area especially compared to somewhere like Cupertino.
Assuming they don’t start iPad Air orders until 10/13, the day after the Education / student free AirPods promo expires, the question is do I pull the trigger on an iPad Pro? If Apple Care for the Pro wasn’t double the cost vs the Air, it would make the decision a lot easier as the value of the Pods covers the cost delta from the Air to the Pro.
I have to admit iPhone launches are way more exciting than my birthday and mine is in December.
Interested in the
- iPhone 12 Mini 5.4 (hoping for power button Touch ID, with or without Face ID). My SE 1. Gen is on its last legs. Especially looking forward to the camera improvements.
- HomePod Mini (hopefully less than 100$)
- ARM powered Macs, especially a Mini (or even a Nano sized one)
Oh damn, a smaller phone actually has me excited for an Apple product! If they just ditched faceID I'd get one instead of my SE2.
MacRumors consists of members and viewers from all over the globe. Maybe you could be more specific when you say 'around here!' 😉