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Apple Announces February 2 Launch Date for Vision Pro Headset

Who here, will in deed buy it on year one?.
Who will pre-order?.
I will be quietly waiting for the foldable iPhone... Or go Android next January 2025.
By now we can see that Apple doest not care about a foldable phone. Shame :(
 
If Apple can get the cost down to under $1,000 in a few years, maybe it will have a chance. In the meantime it's out of reach for a vast majority of people.
 
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Rogifan said:
There’s no keynote for this. The press release includes no new footage. All the clips are what was shown at WWDC. You’d think if this really was ready for prime time they’d drum up excitement with a keynote that showed off apps or experiences that will be available at launch.
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They can only promise Apple apps will be available at launch - they haven't even opened up the ability for developers to build or submit final apps yet.

If there's nothing new to announce since WWDC, why would they hold another keynote? It's not like they are going to sell 10 million of these this year - they couldn't get parts for that consumer demand even if it was there.

Plus, this is the sort of product where you really need to have people experience it, rather than see a video of people walking around in dorky headsets. They'd be far better off focused on in-store demos.
 
Max Powers said:
If Apple can get the cost down to under $1,000 in a few years, maybe it will have a chance. In the meantime it's out of reach for a vast majority of people.
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Yeah, apple is known for cutting costs on products every year. The last 13 years was spent increasing the prices to maximum market potential. Cutting production costs by reducing any upgradeability or repair. All to push quick product repurchases. The entire essences of apple now is about milking the Steve Jobs cow.
 
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Sorinut said:
That's fair!

I don't personally think it's overpriced, for what they are offering. It's not for me, but that's okay. I really, really, think that makes this a single-user device with guest mode is a mistake, though.

I'll find out the branding of the VR headsets that I've messed with and get back with you, but I'm pretty sure one was a hololens. They dried my eyes our and were itchy, and I just didn't like the experience.
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Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I still don't like that my iPad is primarily single-user. Was shocked to find that out with iPad 1. Don't like it, but have come to accept it. So I am with you there 100%. Well maybe 90%, not sure I want to put on my head a device someone else was wearing (without a thoroughly detailed cleansing procedure that one never sees at home). But I also cringe when I see people using earbuds that had been in someone else's ear!

And I totally accept the AVP is not for everyone, and appreciate well thought out criticisms like yours. Where I get frustrated (and not with you) is with people that feel the need to say the device has no place in the universe just because they don't want one. It's like they have to rationalize/defend their decision not to get one and anyone that does get one (or is excited) is invalidating their choice. it's not for everyone.

I have only tried a friend's Oculus (and bought it for my adult kids). I liked it, thought it was fun with games, and probably would've gotten one except it demanded I have a Facebook account. I hear it no longer does that, but still requires a meta account instead (isnt that close to be the same from a privacy point of view).

The point is, I liked it. Not for $3500, but hey assuming Apple is bringing a lot more to the table in terms of tech and ergonomics. A lot of people swear they don't find the AirPods Max comfortable, but I do. A lot of people say the AirPods Max is overpriced, but I like the tech. I alike how easy they are to use. I even like they have no off button. Heck, and this is how you know I am a crackpot, I even like the case. It's far smaller and easier to pack carry with that minimal case design. I bought the larger more common case for it, never use it.

So yep, I am betting that I can live with the limitations of the AVP and probably even like it. Time will tell.
 
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I can finally order one! I have been looking forward to ordering a spatial computer since it was announced. Eager to use it on airplanes for work and entertainment.
 
I’m sure it’s going to be good, but not 3500$ good. Could be fun trying it out, but I’d rather spend the money on a bathroom renovation.
 
I doubt I would get one for several years/generations since I can't envision a use for it for me personally (and the price is out of reach for me), but Apple rarely misses when it enters a new product category. For fun, go back to old threads on pro-Apple and general tech forums and read the reactions to the original iPod, original iPhone, et cetera. So many naysayers who have fair critiques and thoughts but whose strong guarantees that the product will be a flop just never materialize. Well today we get about four weeks of experiencing this again—read the negative comments and soak it in! I would love for the product to be successful and am quite certain it will be.

Whether I'm right or I'm wrong, let's follow along and see. And feel free to copy and paste this same comment every half-decade or so when Apple invents a new category of product or enters an existing one with gusto. Cheers!
 
This is a start. It is for early adopters with a ton of money and developers. In a few years, new stuff will be invented based on this technology that will make it far more usable and far more reasonably priced. Most of us will have a peak into the future with this, and that’s cool.
 
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HobeSoundDarryl said:
What price cut? They went from demanding full "unlocked-like" price up front to an AT&T subsidy model. It appeared to be hundreds of dollars cheaper... and eventually even achieving "free*" but every buyer of a free-to-few-hundred dollar iPhone paid full price too... just spread over time. And with AT&T behind it, many paid "and then some."

If that's the path to "cheaper", Apple could immediately cut this one to 1/12th, 1/24th or 1/36th the price by offering ApplePay terms of 12, 24 or 36 months. Apple could even do the car company trick of "free*" by deferring the start of payments a month or two. None of that would involve any actual price cut- just financing games (that do work, and I expect to see some of them with this product).

The only 4 real paths to "cheaper" are:
  1. Wait for version 2 with new tech and this older tech one will cost less (see the precedent for all other Apple computing offerings)
  2. Perhaps Apple offers cellular connectivity and this can be purchased through cell phone companies on 24-36 "locked" contracts to get about $1000 off (to be fully recouped in the contract commitment of course)
  3. Returns in the refurb store by about August-October or so
  4. Cut features from this one such as switching 4K per eye to 1080p (or less), cut the number of cameras to make it less functional, put in a weaker chipset, etc.
Too many envision a cheaper one to follow but I don't recall that EVER happening for an Apple computing without financing trickery, version 2 discounts to version 1 or tangible feature cuts. All calling for lower prices don't seem to ever name what features they want cut. Instead, it appears that the expectation is the same "loaded" device simply priced lower... which would involve cutting Apple's fat margin... which seems- to me anyway- to be the LAST thing AAPL would opt to cut.
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The OG 8gb iPhone was $599, in addition to a carrier contract. That fell to $399 in September 2007 (3 months after launch) and then the iPhone 3G was $199.

This, and the 5K iMac, are both good examples of this in the past - the OG retina MacBook Pros also started high and then came down over the years.
 
what is different to me... and hence worthy of speculation.. is the two week period between pre-orders and delivery. It's usually a week. Maybe to give time to set up all the appointments? Get the Zeiss lenses?
 
flofixer said:
I am assuming the readers serve the purpose of reading glasses we buy off the shelf at our local stores, i.e 1.5, 2.0, 2.5, etc
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Ah maybe. I guess that means people with bifocals will need them in the headset as well... I wonder if they're offered.
 
Unsurprisingly, aspects of the thread degenerate into "I can afford it", "you can't afford it", "what car do you drive?" and other asinine comments. Anyway, this device is clearly a kind of public beta release in relatively small numbers. Well done to all those who really want to own the first version and look forward to getting it. For those who can't afford it, that's fair enough; most people don't have that much spare cash on tap for this sort of thing.

My own case is probably like very many on this forum. I have got the money to buy it (and actually I don't think the price is ridiculous given how much Apple computers have cost in the past and the technology that is in it and the development costs). But to me it looks large, clunky and then there is the battery issue.

Unless the reviews are seriously "rave" (by people other than iJustine et al) I'll happily bide my time and wait for a sleeker design with better battery life and more apps, probably in 2-3 years' time. Whether the price comes down or not in the future won't bother me much, I'm just happy to wait a bit for a more refined version that will be more comfortable to wear. I don't feel the need to jump in immediately, but if you do, that's great! Enjoy it, and tell us all about it.
 
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Anyway, this device is clearly a kind of public beta release in relatively small numbers.
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Can you name another product that apple used as a public beta? That is the least apple criticism I see about the AVP. Apple doesn't do that...they make a product they like and works and release it fully fledged. Public betas are google.

Even the apple watch which apple didnt understand was not a beta...they thought the product they released would be ok. It just turns out they didnt understand what people wanted (less share heartbeat and more raise heartbeat).
 
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Can you name another product that apple used as a public beta? That is the least apple criticism I see about the AVP. Apple doesn't do that...they make a product they like and works and release it fully fledged. Public betas are google.

Even the apple watch which apple didnt understand was not a beta...they thought the product they released would be ok. It just turns out they didnt understand what people wanted (less share heartbeat and more raise heartbeat).
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Perhaps I used the wrong wording. I'll put it another way... My own prediction is that by, for example, Generation 3, it will differ more significantly from this first release than the iPhone, watch or iPad did. Also, whilst I don't have the numbers and am not interested enough to look them up, I suspect the launch numbers are far lower than for those devices. So, not a beta version as such, but an early version released in small numbers that is likely to change significantly, and quite rapidly. In my mind, everything about this product and its release screams, "We are not quite ready on this, but here's some fun for enthusiastic early adopters and app developers." Call it beta or not I don't care, but that is my take on this produce release.
 
cridgit001 said:
256gb to start in 2024 for a $3500 device. #courage
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For me 256 is a lot of storage. I have a 256gb iPhone snd have 201gb free storage. I used to get higher storage everything, Mac, iPhone and iPad but I struggle to fill it to be honest. The only device I have that seems to always be filled is my PS5 because games are so bloody large.

Sure storage is cheap and they should’ve started with more. But for me I think I’d be content with the 256gb at starting price. This is basically to replace all the functions I use on my iPhone and Apple TV when I’m at home. Web surfing, messaging, FaceTime, calendar, mail, YouTube, Reddit, LinkedIn and everything Apple TV that’s about it.

There are other productivity apps I use on my iPad when I’m in school but I just graduated and not going back for further degree for at least 1-2 years so I won’t be using any of those on the Vision Pro at least not for a while.
 
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