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This place always makes me laugh, its too small, it's too big, its too expensive, its too niche, apple don't innovate anymore - the list is endless but what do we know here really ?

Just go back and look at other apple hardware launches on here and have a good chuckle at the comments....although hindsight is 20/20

I think 99% of everyone with the first price reveal knew it wasn't for them but give it a few gens and it might be.

I'd be honestly surprised if they didnt sell out.

If I was rich it would be bought day 1.
That argument misses the point that cheap capable VR has been around for a few years with Meta. The Quest 3 does more than VP at a tiny fraction of the price. Sure it doesn’t have an 8k screen but it’s very high resolution

The issue is VR. It’s amazing at first. But after a while the novelty wears out except for very niche use cases because wearing a couple of pounds on your face sucks.

Until Apple can change that - VR will always be niche. And this thing is -heavy-

This isn’t an iPhone. That was also expensive and limited in capability at first but it looked amazing at the time and fit in your pocket. And it was maybe 3-4x more expensive than other smartphones (?) not 7x more

There’s -zero- way this thing catches on widely in Version one. That’s why it’s called the “Pro”.
 
The pricing will keep this a niche product for a while but even if it was 500$ I don't think that many people would get one. You can't do real work on this so it just a different cool way to view content in your home. I'm sure it will get better with time.
 
Unsurprisingly, aspects of the thread degenerate into "I can afford it", "you can't afford it", "what car do you drive?" and other asinine comments. Anyway, this device is clearly a kind of public beta release in relatively small numbers. Well done to all those who really want to own the first version and look forward to getting it. For those who can't afford it, that's fair enough; most people don't have that much spare cash on tap for this sort of thing.

My own case is probably like very many on this forum. I have got the money to buy it (and actually I don't think the price is ridiculous given how much Apple computers have cost in the past and the technology that is in it and the development costs). But to me it looks large, clunky and then there is the battery issue.

Unless the reviews are seriously "rave" (by people other than iJustine et al) I'll happily bide my time and wait for a sleeker design with better battery life and more apps, probably in 2-3 years' time. Whether the price comes down or not in the future won't bother me much, I'm just happy to wait a bit for a more refined version that will be more comfortable to wear. I don't feel the need to jump in immediately, but if you do, that's great! Enjoy it, and tell us all about it.
Those of us in our 60’s may not be around for V2. Never know. Gotta jump on board now
 
My questionable opinion is that this is designed wrong. Since there's a belt clip battery and it's tethered, wouldn't it make more sense to house the cpu there, and make it modular? Make the eyewear as light as possible? You could use a version of a phone. Sell more phones, create upgrade paths. I could really get into this. This is something the great Steve Jobs might have done, setting goals for eyepiece weight, which really needs to be a a certain spec for something like this to go mainstream.

Just not this version.

Your suggestion would make the computational latency much slower. You don’t want to have data traveling through a long cord for a device like this if you want the best responsive experience.
 
Those of us in our 60’s may not be around for V2. Never know. Gotta jump on board now
Exactly. Heck some of us in our 20s, 30s may not be around for V2. That’s why I always live in the moment and don’t take a day for granted.
 
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I feel uncomfortable holding my phone to my ear… and what it might do to the brain.

Anyone have any idea if there are any real risks here to keeping a sophisticated power hungry computer device strapped to the head/ brain for hours at a time?

These electronic devices won’t turn into the cigarette dangers of our generation, right? I’m genuinely curious.. I am not a doctor and am completely clueless about this stuff.

Thanks
 
That argument misses the point that cheap capable VR has been around for a few years with Meta. The Quest 3 does more than VP at a tiny fraction of the price. Sure it doesn’t have an 8k screen but it’s very high resolution

The issue is VR. It’s amazing at first. But after a while the novelty wears out except for very niche use cases because wearing a couple of pounds on your face sucks.

Until Apple can change that - VR will always be niche. And this thing is -heavy-

This isn’t an iPhone. That was also expensive and limited in capability at first but it looked amazing at the time and fit in your pocket. And it was maybe 3-4x more expensive than other smartphones (?) not 7x more

There’s -zero- way this thing catches on widely in Version one. That’s why it’s called the “Pro”.
I replied to a very similar post so briefly...I think you are probably right but there were smartphones before iPhone and they were not hugely popular because they were "wrong". Apple changed the category because they had a few innovations that changed everything. It is possible ... not saying it true...that apples innovations change the category in a way that changes what the device category is. So saying....we have meta quest could be meaningless. The few people who used it and have used all the others described it in a way that was bordering on category redefinition. I remain hopeful but skeptical but it is possible such a thing could happen. Widespread adoption...nah it's a computer strapped to your head. But....more than expected.
 
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Perhaps I used the wrong wording. I'll put it another way... My own prediction is that by, for example, Generation 3, it will differ more significantly from this first release than the iPhone, watch or iPad did. Also, whilst I don't have the numbers and am not interested enough to look them up, I suspect the launch numbers are far lower than for those devices. So, not a beta version as such, but an early version released in small numbers that is likely to change significantly, and quite rapidly. In my mind, everything about this product and its release screams, "We are not quite ready on this, but here's some fun for enthusiastic early adopters and app developers." Call it beta or not I don't care, but that is my take on this produce release.
Thats fair. I think they are ready...not sure there is the interest of utility.
 
For everyone complaining about it only having 256 GB of storage, if you would get one (which you obviously won’t), what would you use it for to feel that 256 GB is not enough?
 
I find it hard to understand why the Vision Pro comes with an M2 Chip, instead of an M3. M3 was already launched in 2023, consumes less power, and has much more GPU performance, something critical in a VR/AR product. Is Apple not interested in the success of the Vision Pro or there are technical limitations?
You obviously have never worked on product development.
 
Every single person that has actually used one and discussed it has pretty much raved about it. No product suits everyone. But this one has hit a pretty high bar in advance of release. Does anybody really think Apple would waste the enormous resources to develop this without solid data to indicate wide acceptance? They’ve a lot of effort into this for a long time. Sure, that’s no guarantee of success or wide acceptance. But they are definitely not guessing or engaging in wishful thinking. A lot of developers ate getting behind this.

Early versions of new tech are always expensive. This is a leap beyond the current toy level VR stuff. Compare the options, nobody is even close. The reason is they couldn’t see beyond the initial novelty. Apple has big plans spanning years. That’s not a guarantee but it is an indicator of commitment.
 


Apple today announced that the Vision Pro headset will launch in the United States on Friday, February 2.

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The headset will be available at all Apple Store locations in the United States, as well as via the online Apple Store. Apple CEO Tim Cook today said:

Apple says that the Vision Pro is "a revolutionary spatial computer that transforms how people work, collaborate, connect, relive memories, and enjoy entertainment."


The Vision Pro is set to be available starting at $3,499 with 256GB of storage. Pre-orders begin two weeks prior to launch, opening on Friday, January 19 at 5 a.m. PST.

Article Link: Apple Announces February 2 Launch Date for Vision Pro Headset
It’s going to be a stellar product there is no doubt about it. But at that price point it’s more than 99% of the planets monthly income.
I hope we get consecutive generations of this product. But its initial price point doesn’t do it any favors.
 
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