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Funny how everybody is talking about this subscription mode without knowing what the software actually will do.
If it's as good as the desktop version, than it's a bargain. If it's a broken down version like i.e. Adobe Illustrator for iPad with limited functionality, then that's another thing.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

The info from the webpage says different.
 
why didn't they save this for wwcd I wonder?
That was my first thought which leads me to believe that maybe they really do have so much to cover at WWDC that they really didn’t have time to talk about this. It would make sense and only makes WWDC appear more interesting.
 
A subscription model sucks unless they also give the option to buy it. Subscriptions are great for the majority of people who don't need the software permanently and are just playing around and it sucks to see the iPad remain treated like its only target is those people. Buying it on Mac should make it available on the iPad for download like all the other apps.
Meanwhile, if you bought Final Cut Pro X on day one in 2011, you’ve gotten 12 years of free updates. And it shows, seeing as the anpp only gets a major update once every four years or so. outside of that, it’s barely touched.
So a subscription model is exactly what I would’ve expected, hopefully that means it gets maintained better.
And I still hope there’s a one time purchase option coming down the road.
It shows because Apple doesn't want to take care of it, not because of lack of money. It's the richest corporation in the world we're talking about. If they wanted to keep it up to date, they would've. They're just doing the bare minimum with software.
 
I'm not following what you're saying here. Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro have never been free. In fact, Logic Pro 9 was $999. Logic Pro X launched in 2009 for $199 in the Mac App Store.

$5 a month for a pro app is a drop in the bucket. GarageBand and iMovie are still free for hobbyists.
Someone who doesn’t have a clue what they’re talking about jumping on the bandwagon of being upset at subscription model because everyone else is, even though it has zero impaxt on them whatsoever. Like half this forum.
 
A subscription model sucks unless they also give the option to buy it. Subscriptions are great for the majority of people who don't need the software permanently and are just playing around and it sucks to see the iPad remain treated like its only target is those people. Buying it on Mac should make it available on the iPad for download like all the other apps.

It shows because Apple doesn't want to take care of it, not because of lack of money. It's the richest corporation in the world we're talking about. If they wanted to keep it up to date, they would've. They're just doing the bare minimum with software.
That is not how companies work. You can’t just blow through one departments budget and start taking budget from another department.
 
I'm thinking the same.. Our band has a very large collection of recordings. If I'm able to just move our archive of Logic Project Files over to like a OneDrive folder or an iCloud Drive shared folder, and then all of us in our band can use our iPads & MacBooks to Edit these same projects? That's totally worth the $50 a year. I'm sold. But if it's just kinda geared towards making beats and stuff like that, not really core audio or maybe automation? Ehhh
I doubt it would be THAT dumbed down. Even GarageBand (free) does most of that, including basic automation and AU plug-ins support. LP for iPad is going to be compatible with GB projects too, so that sketchy beat making workflow was already covered. With the FILES app, you can connect a NAS or SSD and access your projects that way too. FILES does connect to OneDrive, so it should all be supported natively.
 
Wrong example. In the past, you had software that would drop support/OS support after after a few years, then have to pay several hundred dollars for a new version. Office was the perfect example.

Apparently people want one-time purchases that get updated in perpetuity, for a low price.
Office is indeed a great example. I got my students version of Office 2008 for Mac and it worked wonderfully until ca. 2018, including all updates. By then MS had long switched to Office 365 subscription.

I do want one-time purchases that get updated to new x.0 versions for a reasonable price. I‘m even willing to pay for certain minor updates.

The subscription way creates a huge dependency on the customer side, especially if one builds a subscription based production environment. You cancel a subscription, your house of cards collapses.
 
The fact the $269 iPad 9 or the even cheaper iPad 8 can run full-blown Logic Pro is kind of cool.

It's a strong shame it is subscription based. I wish whoever came up with the subscription model nothing but pain.

I would argue that for $5 a month, or $50 a year, (for a software that used to cost $1K back in the day), it's not that bad actually...
 
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I doubt it would be THAT dumbed down. Even GarageBand (free) does most of that, including basic automation and AU plug-ins support. LP for iPad is going to be compatible with GB projects too, so that sketchy beat making workflow was already covered. With the FILES app, you can connect a NAS or SSD and access your projects that way too. FILES does connect to OneDrive, so it should all be supported natively.
Exactly! That's totally worth $50 a year IMO
 
They’re probably doing subscriptions because the App Store doesn’t support paid upgrades.

If only the FCP and LP teams had some influence at the company that runs the App Store.
FCP on MacOS never had any paid upgrades so why would they want to implement that here? They'll make a lot more revenue on subscriptions anyway.
 
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The subscription way creates a huge dependency on the customer side, especially if one builds a subscription based production environment. You cancel a subscription, your house of cards collapses.

This collapsing house of cards scenario is FUD. Virtually all Fortune 500 companies rely on subscription services for their Microsoft suite, and many others. If you want to change from Office to Google Docs, you build a migration path. Both are subscriptions at the enterprise level, FYI.
 
Subscription model? Cringe.

The price reflects how useful this would be. As in, not very.

Really tried again to use my iPad Pro the other day for work and it’s just so limited and painful to use. And I’m just talking about reading something from one app and putting it into a spreadsheet on the other. Was so easy on my Mac, but I gave up trying to use it on the iPad. Just too awkward.

I expect the same from this. Would love to have some actual audio or video professional tell me I’m wrong and that they were able to use this for work in a way that justifies the subscription.

Apple really needs to back off the idea that the iPad can replace a proper computer. It just can’t. Doesn’t mean it’s useless, but that is not its use.
 
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That's their entertainment services bundle.



Yea, it was interesting how they went from "always free" on the Apple ][ series to various iterations of pay/free for MacOS. Part of it was, IIRC, driven by accounting rules.
‘Entertainment services bundle’ is iCloud supposed to be entertaining?
 
Lame. Paid $199 for Final Cut Pro about 12 years ago, still getting all the updates. Under the new subscription model I would have paid $599.88 already.
 
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They did that because now they can do a tada at WWDC: Final Cut Express for just $0.99/month
iMovie is Final Cut Express. Just like GarageBand is Logic Express. They are more likely update those two apps and retain compatibility with the “Pro” apps for premium features. At most they create a new Bundle (like an iCloud Pro tier) where you get these subscriptions as well as iCloud storage. Businesses need a “AppleOne” type plan.
 
I think the subscription option is nice. Many content creators are part timers, so it's nice to pay just a few 5USD when needed. That being said, they should have offered a lifetime purchase option, just like their desktop version.
I agree but these are pro apps on pro hardware. If you're a pro, you're not a part timer by definition. But it's just a label so I guess it doesn't matter so long as the software is a good value.
 
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