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According to the Press Release, this is just for TSA as of now. No mention of using it anywhere else. And since it is wireleslly transmitted and not just a photocopy on your phone, I would say 99% of police agencies do not have the technology of what will be required to read it from the persons phone.
Yeah, and what about department stores and such who ask to see your DL for credit card verification? I always get asked to see my DL at Disneyland Anaheim food places and I hate it cuz it always way back stuffed in my backpack. I don't think this is going to eliminate carrying the card for white a while but it's a start anyway.
 
the having to show them license thing is rather BS and outdated now anyway when just about every patrol car at least in my county that is in the boonies has a laptop connected to network . they most likely can pull up your information including drivers license photo just by using either your license plate or your name.
The license plate only tells them who registered the vehicle, not who's actually driving it.
 
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I’m actually not looking forward to surrendering my phone to law enforcement instead of just my license, and for that very reason I’ll probably keep my physical license in my glovebox for any “license and registration” unpleasantries. Would you consider that a conspiracy theory or just irrational paranoia. 😂

Just look at Australia... https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/australia-surveillance-bill/ (in reference to the idea of handing your phone over to law enforcement)
 
I am surprised California isn't one of the first. WTH!
I'm not. California is normally so tied with bureaucracy, we get things years past anyone else (see California EDD and California's Real ID compliance). At this point, California will support this feature in ... carry the one ... 2052. :p
 
You are equating the TSA at an airport to the police. Updating the TSA equipment to support this isn’t nearly as big of a deal as trying to get every police cruiser set up with the right equipment. I don’t see every local police department being able to do this for a LONG time.
The revenue generating parts of the police department (traffic ticket squads) will absolutely get these upgrades quickly. Anything that makes their work more efficient means more tickets, which means more money.

Oh, you thought traffic enforcement was about safety? Ha.
 
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We already have the driving license on our iPhone in Denmark, but in an app. It could be nice if they allowed us to add it to our Apple Wallet in the long run.
 
Guess you didn't understand my comment.

Extremely rare for bartenders or servers in these parts to have mobile payment terminals, let alone some additional hardware to parse an electronic ID. Similarly, many grocery or liquor store cashiers around here aren't equipped for NFC/touchless payment and thus also are likely to take a long time to be on board with electronic ID for proof of age.
Yeah, I wonder how many years it will actually be before it is feasible to only rely on the ID in your phone. Being able to add your ID to Wallet is nice but pretty useless if most places can’t accept it.
 
The Solar System will be sucked into a giant black hole before Florida ever allows something like this. Oh wait, Florida is already a black hole!
 
Hopefully this will come to Canada one day

That being said, how long will it take before cops, TSA, etc are aware of this and you don't
have to teach them (or argue with them over it)?
Oh they’ll be aware, but still coerce people into handing over more than necessary. The selective sharing of information guarded by Face ID will be what makes this protect people.
 
Ok great but… since we need to show our boarding pass at the same time (assuming that’s also digital), wouldn’t that cause a bottleneck here, having to do one authentication at a time? Or does this system somehow allow you to present boarding credentials at the same moment?
Actually at places that now scan your ID, you don't have to show a boarding pass at all. The system will look you up to see if you have a valid boarding pass for the day instead.
 
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From the Press Release:
  • Driver’s licenses and state IDs in Wallet are only presented digitally through encrypted communication directly between the device and the identity reader, so users do not need to unlock, show, or hand over their device.

Which is good as far as the design goes, but I would want to see legislation that says that they're not allowed to take the device without a warrant specifically for it, and training so one wouldn't have to argue the point.
 
While a lot of you are going to go full conspiracy theory stuff, and pretend lawyers, I am going to enjoy carrying less stuff with me, since I take public transportation. For days I am driving, I can either a) keep a physical ID in the car or b) have the officer write down the numbers which they have already done for me in the existing Arizona Mobile ID app. I have never had an issue. For the record, I fall in the category of "not Caucasian" and have never had an issue with this mobile ID app and police officers, and I am sure the Apple one will be just the same. Never have I had an officer ask to see the phone itself, and I got pulled over for my illegal tint....got a warning instead and we chatted about the mobile ID app! Ha!
 
From the Press Release:
  • Driver’s licenses and state IDs in Wallet are only presented digitally through encrypted communication directly between the device and the identity reader, so users do not need to unlock, show, or hand over their device.
You just gave them probable cause to keep your phone. "we saw some irregularities on the digital drivers license that required further investigation'.
 
Hopefully this will come to Canada one day

That being said, how long will it take before cops, TSA, etc are aware of this and you don't
have to teach them (or argue with them over it)?
Truth. My wife changed her last name when we got married so we got her passport sent in to amend it. I suspect that she was questioned EVERY SINGLE TIME about "your name doesn't match" and when we pointed out the amendment page that has her curent name at least half the time they gave us a look like we made it up. I'll give them a little bit of a break as we used our passports even for domestic travel and maybe the domestic airline agents just aren't as familiar as ones with international flights.
 
We need to start having serious conversations about ownership over our metadata and api transparency. I want you guys to think, when you go to Walgreens and use Apple Pay there, and they collect your rewards card without you even selecting it, from your debit card transaction -- you essentially involuntarily gave that merchant information, convenient or not. Where is this telegraphed that they're going to transmit reward card information before the debit card? Now that my state ID is involved, I think we must demand transparency and some kind of chain of consent over peripheral data being collected.
 
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