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Not me. Kids get their own devices

Sure, but what do they have on them? Either they're full of games and net access and so it's unwise to be allowing them to use them all the time, or they nailed right down and there's no chance for fun. If there were to be the ability to have multiple accounts (like on OSX) they could have occasional access to games and other stuff, but continuous access to the apps they need for education. At the moment the dichotomy prevents either.
 
I'm not whining. Every time they used it in the past you walked away saying Apple introduced X that can do Y, but I can't tell you what X or Y is this time.

So you don't understand what Apple Music is and what it can do?

They introduced Apple Music, which they already had and it plays radio stations which it already did. People that say its "like Spotify but by Apple" must have missed that this was the Developers Conference, which Spotify is part of.

What exactly did they demo that no one else but Apple could do?

So they did accomplish introducing "X that can do Y", it's just not that exciting for you. Conversely, I've been anticipating this announcement with some excitement and am glad to see how it's panning out, so I guess to each their own.

I really don't think you even know what you're upset about, except that this just wasn't as exciting a WWDC as you personally were hoping it would be.
 
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And it wouldn't please investors today? Nah, the art work almost certainly indicated much to do about the Apple TV, and something last minute caused a big change in plans.

The artwork resembled the iOS icons general shape... as it should at a developers conference. Is it roughly the shape of the apple TV? yes. Also the shape of the AirPorts too... It is a theme element that Apple uses... That shape does not == AppleTV unless that is what YOU want to see.

With all the touchy feely developer praise, Apple seems to think it is the developers that help drive change (thus the conference for developers could be the "epicenter of change"). Not that the Apple TV is the epicenter of change.

The stuff announced today is more than enough to float the boat of anyone interested in a piece of Apple solely on the products, software, and services.

The iPhone update this coming cycle probably isn't going to be as exciting as the last one. A new AppleTV this Sept. will make it more exciting.
 
Frankly? That they can install a default music service app on tens of millions of devices. And likely get a substantial amount of said users of those devices to pay for the service as well.

Oh. Ok. Cool. Kind of the same way that Microsoft popularized the game Solitaire.

Any answers that aren't dripping with sarcasm?
 
Based on what was presented I haven't formed an opinion yet. If performance and stability is improved in iOS 9 (over what 8 current has) then I would be delighted. I've got 2 iPads running iOS 8 that are on life support (iPad 2 and 4) because of iOS 8.

I'd be happy with performance and stability improvements as well! My comment was merely about the blind defense of Apple at times for anything faintly critical that is directed at Apple. I find that just as annoying as trolling.
 
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I'd be happy with performance and stability improvements as well! My comment was merely about the blind defense of Apple at times for anything faintly critical that is directed at Apple. I find that just as annoying as trolling.
I'm leaning toward optimism because stability is all I'm looking for. However, I totally understand the annoyance with Apple fanboys (iMore.com is unreadable for this exact reason)
 
Many people here are searching and searching, but they can't find that sh-t to give.

Apple is COOKing without fuel or fire.

Nothing but empty, meaningless rhetoric.

Does iOS 9 seem empty to you? It really doesn't add any value. Especially if you don't use siri.

No, the improvements to Siri and Spotlight alone are fantastic, and the new multi-tasking and keyboard features on the iPad are downright exciting to me. That along with optimization make iOS 9 a great update, particularly since all current iOS 8-compatible devices are still being supported.
 
i am completely unimpressed. The new iPhone features could have been released in a x.1 update.
The news app is a joke, developers have released similar apps years ago, why is apple now trying to do all the apps themselves?
Other than that there are like 4 new features which I probably won't use.

They ripped off the news app, because otherwise they couldn't fulfil the women quote on presenting at this keynote. :)

It is all about showing the world the new diversity.
 
Frankly? That they can install a default music service app on tens of millions of devices. And likely get a substantial amount of said users of those devices to pay for the service as well.
Not to mention they run a Unix based OS with a reasonably large install base.
 
So you don't understand what Apple Music is and what it can do?

So they did accomplish introducing "X that can do Y", it's just not that exciting for you. Conversely, I've been anticipating this announcement with some excitement and am glad to see how it's panning out, so I guess to each their own.

I really don't think you even know what you're upset about, except that this just wasn't as exciting a WWDC as you personally were hoping it would be.

I'm not upset. I'm a presentation enthusiast who was confused by their format change. (Yes, I watch these events to observe how companies with seemingly endless resources convey information.) Where was the summery that stated in simple sentences why we care? Who took ownership for the launch of Apple Music? How does this new service fit in with everything else they offer?
 
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Nothing but empty, meaningless rhetoric.



No, the improvements to Siri and Spotlight alone are fantastic, and the new multi-tasking and keyboard features on the iPad are downright exciting to me. That along with optimization make iOS 9 a great update, particularly since all current iOS 8-compatible devices are still being supported.

Eh, don't use Siri or spotlight that much. Don't use my iPad anymore either since I have my 6+ and my mac. So, nothing really in this update for everyone in this category. ^
 
The amount of people moaning really is ridiculous, Apple cannot win, people moan if there isn't enough features and people moan if they focus on bug fixes, security and so on. Apple really can't win no matter what they do.

Personally I think Apple have added some nice features, ground breaking no, helpful? Yes. Multitasking is really going to be useful for a lot of people, also split screen on the Mac.
 
I'm curious to know how iOS 9 knows when I've gotten in the car. In the demo, one of the reminders was set to "remind me when I'm in the car". I wonder if it knows we're in the car based on the speed the phone is moving or when the phone is paired with a specific Bluetooth device (i.e. a car stereo)?
 
I suspect these service etc are something you've got to use to appreciate if there is any real value in it. All this talk by strutting marketeers or software experts at Apple isn't always that helpful. The former usually over promise with glib glossy adjectives, whilst the later just can't present to save their lives. So lets wait until September and see if there is something of substance worth paying for or is it just smoke and mirrors.
For me, Apple Pay was the only announcement of any value in the whole three hours, the rest was froth.
A hint to presenters....they need to take their presenting skill to "another level" so it matches the rhetoric surrounding their products and services.
 
is it just me, but i think i found a glitch in the otherwise pretty cool presentation.
i've always thought what they demonstrate on stage is 100% real. but as Mr. Federighi
clicked on a maps link while demoing iOS multitasking, a small popup appeared, notifying
that turning on wifi will improve location services.
but in the previous and next part of the presentation clearly shows, wifi is on. at least
the little icon on the top left is there.
of course, all stuff could come from a local web server running on the iPad. i mean, they
are apple, they can do what they want with ios.
and the presenter did a marvellous job to hide this little glitch with a joke so most people
laughed.
but after all i think - as i read from the book - Steve Jobs would have repeating the whole
presentation end-to-end until it's perfectly polished, and during this exhausting process this
issue would have been found and fixed.
instead of that fake video prequel stuff at the very start of the wwdc.

anyway, they did a very good job!

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Oh. Ok. Cool. Kind of the same way that Microsoft popularized the game Solitaire.

Any answers that aren't dripping with sarcasm?
I mean really the Apple thing is that it is all included with the OS. You don't have to do anything to get the service and with "single sign on" you likely don't even have to whip out a CC to pay for it. Super easy all in 1 package. Otherwise they are not doing anything that the existing apps can't do as far as I can tell.
 
Eh, don't use Siri or spotlight that much. Don't use my iPad anymore either since I have my 6+ and my mac. So, nothing really in this update for everyone in this category. ^

Yeah, I guess if you don't use two big functions of iOS and don't use a major Apple product, then announcements like this might not be that exciting. Apple can't cater to every use-case of their line up, so certainly some people are going to be left wanting.
 
Sure, but what do they have on them? Either they're full of games and net access and so it's unwise to be allowing them to use them all the time, or they nailed right down and there's no chance for fun. If there were to be the ability to have multiple accounts (like on OSX) they could have occasional access to games and other stuff, but continuous access to the apps they need for education. At the moment the dichotomy prevents either.

Easy:

Games, educational and video apps set up by me. Web browsing limited via my network. Limits on game time set by parents (me and the wife)
 
is it just me, but i think i found a glitch in the otherwise pretty cool presentation.
i've always thought what they demonstrate on stage is 100% real. but as Mr. Federichi
clicked on a maps link while demoing iOS multitasking, a small popup appeared, notifying
that turning on wifi will improve location services.
but in the previous and next part of the presentation clearly shows, wifi is on. at least
the little icon on the top left is there.
of course, all stuff could come from a local web server running on the iPad. i mean, they
are apple, they can do what they want with ios.
and the presenter did a marvellous job to hide this little glitch with a joke so most people
laughed.
but after all i think - as i read from the book - Steve Jobs would have repeating the whole
presentation end-to-end until it's perfectly polished, and during this exhausting process this
issue would have been found and fixed.
instead of that fake video prequel stuff at the very start of the wwdc.

anyway, they did a very good job!

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I agree, it was very unpolished, but not much more than previous Cook Keynotes. My biggest issue is the amount of reading off the telepromoters that occurs at each event.
 
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