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Slow? We had MacBook Pro updates today. iPhone update today. Snow Leopard update today. iPhone OS 3.0 update today. Safari update today. And rest assured that a Mac Tablet or Netbook-type is in the works as well. Rarely does Apple update / release this much at any one event. It may not have been what everyone hoped for on the iPhone, but this was almost unusually large for an Apple update day.

Macbook Pro updates... well we saw them add a Pro onto the end of Macbook for the 13" then drop the prices slightly... no realy 'update' like we saw with the iMac back in the days that in itself must have taken them at least a fortnight... fair play Snow Leopard that is a big job but what are the Industrial design team doing whilst their working on SL....
 
By one-year pricing, do you mean $399/$499? Because that is what I'm offered on Apple's site. It tells me to wait until 7/19 when I "may qualify" for a standard upgrade (I'm assuming that is $199/$299??).

Standard is the $199/299. Early is the $399/499.
 
I work for AT&T at a corporate store and the internal memos basically say that if you have bought one of the original 3g iphones within 30 days you can either A) return it now and wait for the new ones, just paying a 10% restockign fee and buy the new one when it comes out, or B) if your still within 30 days on june 19th you can return it then and pay the 10% restock and get whatever model you want.


And furthermore, I dont know which company you could go to, and they would just hand you a brand new 700$ piece of equipment, that was just released, for free or with minimal penalties. I'm not overly loyal to my own company, but if you are one of the R-tards who think just because you pay your bill, ATT should eat a handful of money to get you the brand new phone you want, your loyalty would be much more appreciated somewhere else..I assure you.

HA!
+1 with the folks who are stating that people should read their contracts and understand that cell phone companies have been doing this for every cell phone, not just iPhone. It just happens that the iPhone is something that people want to buy, so suddenly it becomes an issue.

What about the fact that we as customers are being charged for a voice plan and a data plan. Someone who is much smarter than me help me understand why, based on the usage of the same cell tower, I get charged for the same 1's and 0's leaving my phone twice (once for voice and once for data). I should be charged by the GB/mo I use (on voice or data) not two seperate plans going through the same pipe.
 
Macbook Pro updates... well we saw them add a Pro onto the end of Macbook for the 13" then drop the prices slightly... no realy 'update' like we saw with the iMac back in the days that in itself must have taken them at least a fortnight... fair play Snow Leopard that is a big job but what are the Industrial design team doing whilst their working on SL....

The Netbook / Tablet for one. And rest assured that other projects are in the pipeline including the design of their own chip line to replace ARM processors.
 
HA!
+1 with the folks who are stating that people should read their contracts and understand that cell phone companies have been doing this for every cell phone, not just iPhone. It just happens that the iPhone is something that people want to buy, so suddenly it becomes an issue.

What about the fact that we as customers are being charged for a voice plan and a data plan. Someone who is much smarter than me help me understand why, based on the usage of the same cell tower, I get charged for the same 1's and 0's leaving my phone twice (once for voice and once for data). I should be charged by the GB/mo I use (on voice or data) not two seperate plans going through the same pipe.

The companies (AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc) charge us for whatever they can get away with as long as we are willing to pay it ... the same as Apple. 🙂
 
subsidy: rent to own

why should the iphone be different from any other phone from a wireless company in regards to a subsidy? That's why it's subsidized.

You can walk into any wireless store (att, verizon, sprint, etc.) and get a phone at the discounted price ($49 for a samsung glide with 2 year contract) or skip the contact and pay full retail for the phone ($249-$349).

iPhone 3G is no different. The first gen was unsubsidized. You outright owned your phone. Subsidy is a fancy word for "rent to own."

Stop bitching! I'm sure you all know better so quit sitting on your balls and saying they hurt.

My beef... refurbished phones. If you bough a refurb (fancy for used and refaced) they are holding the same standard to the upgrade.
 
Pulled from HoFo

Certain AT&T customers may be eligible for a cell phone upgrade even if they have been in their current plan for less than two years (24 months), if they commit to a new 2-year contract and meet these eligibility requirements:

(snip)

* Customer has had a standard calling plan plus data services costing $99 a month or more, and who has been in contract (and not upgraded) in the last 12 months.

Thanks for this. This may be the answer why seemingly similarly situated people may be getting different update offers.
 
Yes, if your on a family plan and one phone can upgrade, but you cant, (if its okay with that family member!!) we can use their upgrade to get you the discounted price!!

So what would be my price if I add a line to my single plan, thus converting to a family plan.

My kid (well 22) would like to have an iphone. She's very responsible, so I would consider it.

Also we probably should have both models for compatablity qa testing. The simulator doesn't always work like the real hardware.

And please don't call us morons because we don't understand the in and outs of subsidizing.

Especially since att considers the iphone a computing device not a traditional cell phone. At least thats the excuse they give for not alowing slingplayer to use anything but wi-fi.

We were going to develop a video streaming app but decided it wouldn't meet att guidelines and get restricted to wi-fi, so we backed off of that.

Would of been really sweet too.
 
even better, I found the rules on AT&T's page.

Monthly charges per line: Greater than $99
At 18-23 months since activation/upgrade
Additional $50 off our standard 2-year service agreement discount
24+ months since activation/upgrade
Additional $100 off our standard 2-year service agreement discount

Monthly charges per line: Between $69 and $98.99
18-23 months since activation/upgrade
Standard 2-year service agreement discount*
24+ months since activation/upgrade
Additional $50 off our standard 2-year service agreement discount*

Monthly charges per line: Less than $68.99
Standard 2-year service agreement discount begins after 20 months
 
Whats a "Fingerprint-resistant oleophobic coating"... according to the tech specs the Iphone 3GS has it but the old 3G does not?

I can guess what it does, but anyone know what it actually is?
 
Upgrade fees

I bought the 1G on day one so am eligible for an upgrade but noticed they tack on an $18 upgrade fee and $18 activation fee. Is that normal? This is getting as bad as those random fees we used to have for landlines. I'm certainly ready for an upgrade but could hold out if Apple was going to have another upgrade within the year.
 
Whats a "Fingerprint-resistant oleophobic coating"... according to the tech specs the Iphone 3GS has it but the old 3G does not?

I can guess what it does, but anyone know what it actually is?

Some sort of coating that resists fingerprints. Of course we will see if it is as good as they claim on the 19th now wont we?
 
I bought the 1G on day one so am eligible for an upgrade but noticed they tack on an $18 upgrade fee and $18 activation fee. Is that normal. This is getting as bad as those random fees we used to have for landlines. I'm certainly ready for an upgrade but could hold out if Apple was going to have another upgrade within the year.

The upgrade is a standard fee. I would call about the activation fee. You shouldn't have to pay an activation fee if you are using an already existing account since no account as to be activated. But you should check with customer service.
 
even better, I found the rules on AT&T's page.

Thank you!

This is the first piece of information that precisely explains why the offer to me is what it is. It fits exactly based on per-line costs on my plan setup, I'm offered a full upgrade at 18 months.

18 months from 3G launch has to be the dumbest time to buy an iPhone given apple's propensity for yearly updates to their entire ipod related line.

So it looks like I'll be deciding in the next few hours between $500 now or just skipping the 3G S entirely.

I really would like 32gb of storage though :-/

Tough call when the cost isn't that bad to you (I find $499 for a smartphone this good to be fantastic considering all the years I was paying far more for half as good of products via gray market)
 
cant wait for iphone 3gs, but why will rest of the europe get it on 9th july and uk and germany getting on 19th june??

Dont understand what apple is up to, btw i am from Denmark.

Cant wait for it.......... 29 days left hehe:apple:
 
I bought the 1G on day one so am eligible for an upgrade but noticed they tack on an $18 upgrade fee and $18 activation fee. Is that normal? This is getting as bad as those random fees we used to have for landlines. I'm certainly ready for an upgrade but could hold out if Apple was going to have another upgrade within the year.

Do your order at a store, and chances are you can talk them out of that fee, possibly even both. But you can't haggle with a computer.

The activation fee is probably being tacked on because you're starting an entirely new contract.

I'd just go to an actual AT&T store...
 
Thank you!

This is the first piece of information that precisely explains why the offer to me is what it is. It fits exactly based on per-line costs on my plan setup, I'm offered a full upgrade at 18 months.

18 months from 3G launch has to be the dumbest time to buy an iPhone given apple's propensity for yearly updates to their entire ipod related line.

So it looks like I'll be deciding in the next few hours between $500 now or just skipping the 3G S entirely.

I really would like 32gb of storage though :-/

Tough call when the cost isn't that bad to you (I find $499 for a smartphone this good to be fantastic considering all the years I was paying far more for half as good of products via gray market)

I find 499 dollars for a UNLOCKED iphone to be a good price. not locked.
 
Bummer they didn't have something cheaper for the early iPhone 3G users who switched on Day 1 looking to upgrade to the iPhone 3GS
 
Omg

So, Just found O2's PAYG Pricing for the 3GS.

* iPhone 3G 8GB - £342.50
* iPhone 3G S 16GB - £440.40
* iPhone 3G S 32GB - £538.30

Guess i'll be trolling ebay for a 16GB 3G then!!!😡
 
I'm just going to go to the store to get it. I imagine that shipping option would be pretty expensive, am I right?

According to the Apple Customer Service there is no way to get it on the 19th if you want to get it delivered ... i picked the standard shipping and it said that it will be delivered on the 24th ... so i called the CS and they apologized for the confusion. They upgraded me for free to the priority one day shipping, but I will get it on the 22nd (which is Monday).

The representative told me that the ONLY way to get it on Friday would be to wait in line at a store, which I don't really want to do.

In my opinion they should ship them on Thursday, so everyone would receive them on Friday, but I guess Apple's way of thinking is different.
 
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