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I have the cradle dock battery charger. I have 2 batteries. I NEVER plug my phone in to charge it. I put a battery in the charger and when my battery gets low I pop the battery out and swap them. Its awesome. My wife has to run to a charger and sit there to talk on her phone, I just swap my battery. If we go somewhere and I need more juice, take the extra battery with me. Don't have to worry about damaging my phone when plugging it in ever because I don't have to plug it in. Battery goes bad? Get a new one. Hate that bout the iphone. Battery goes bad, get a new phone. Lame. Hell thats just the battery. How about the 64gb SD card I have all my music and pictures on that plugs right in? The 4.8" screen makes my wifes iphone look like a joke. Super easy to read. Now I still love apple and I would get this phone in a minute if the S3 did not exist but the S3 is just so much a better phone it isn't even funny.

Hmm, I suppose if you have had battery issues in the past I can understand that. But given Apple's one year warranty and some pretty good extended service plans I have no issue simply receiving a new phone if my battery ever crapped out (which it hasn't in any Apple device save my 7 year old MBP).

The ability to charge on the go I kinda get, though I usually don't find myself in need of a charge during the day. And besides, I'm either at work or in the car - both places I can easily charge my phone.

I will never be a fan of SD card slots....sure you load up 64 GB of something onto one, then you have to keep track of it and if you have more than 64 GB you need to have multiple cards which you have to keep track of. I know Android has Google Music - iTunes match is the way to go. No need to store all that on the device, just put it in the cloud. Same with photos and movies. Apps are starting to take more and more space, but mine are pretty split between my iPad and iPhone. TBH I play more games on my iPad anyways.

My point is the things you say make the GS3 a much better phone are in my opinion subjective. I have a Nexus 7 and while its a great device for $200, I've found myself using it less and less because its still a little buggy and I prefer the Apple ecosystem.

My biggest talking point is this: its not about the FEATURES a phone has. Those are quickly becoming standards (LTE, nice camera, soon NFC blah blah blah). Its how those features are IMPLEMENTED and the ENVIRONMENT in which they are implemented. IMHO this is why Amazon's Kindle Fire has done well, even though the first iteration has pretty shoddy software. This is also why we have Android, iOS and WP8 - because people have different preferences about how the use of their mobile devices affect their day-to-day lives.

I'd venture to say, there is next to nothing one smartphone can do that any other flagship device can't. It's just a matter of how each one does it.
 
Okay thanks. It's going to cost me about 450 to upgrade to keep my unlimited.... 650+49 for taxes-250 selling my 32 GB iPhone 4. Decisions decisions...

yea im in the same damn boat as you. I can actually get the 199 price but i'd rather not have my plan go from 67 a month to 92 and id like to keep my unlimited
 
Goodbye S2 - Hello iP5!

Those going over to Android - Good luck. I loved the switch at first. For around a month. Then I regretted it.
 
Bluetooth is an awesome easy way of doing it

But, it's not the best way of doign it.

multiple reasons

1. Charge your device while driving instead of wasting battery.
2. more detailed song and device information relayed to the device, including and not limited to song, album, band, current song position.
3. more robust controls. Bluetooth is generally only able to do your basic forward, backwards, pause / play commands. You cannot usually do album and song browsing, playlist navigation, voice control of media playback.
4. Abilirty to use additional iphone/ipod functionlaity, such as playlist, navigate song lists, "play more like this" and other additional features.


My car has one of those fancy new "qnx" based systems. it handles bluetooth fine, but using a plugged in ipod brings so many additional features that for longer drives is nice.

Oh I agree. Never said bluetooth was the BEST way, but if you don't want to shell out the money for a new adapter it may be your only way. You can always charge it through the cig lighter while it streams. TBH, I use the bluetooth so I never have to take the thing out of my pocket. It really doesn't drain battery much at all (unless you are on a long road trip).
 
I was half hoping they would make two models, one bigger both wider and taller for those that want a bigger iphone and another the same size with some new goodies for those of us that don't really want their phone taking up more real estate.
 
My biggest talking point is this: its not about the FEATURES a phone has. Those are quickly becoming standards (LTE, nice camera, soon NFC blah blah blah). Its how those features are IMPLEMENTED and the ENVIRONMENT in which they are implemented.
True, yet that isnt the case for the most of the users, they just want a phone and DONT sign into the rest of the ecosystem.


I'd venture to say, there is next to nothing one smartphone can do that any other flagship device can't. It's just a matter of how each one does it.
Thats true.
 
Bluetooth is an awesome easy way of doing it

But, it's not the best way of doign it.

multiple reasons

1. Charge your device while driving instead of wasting battery.
2. more detailed song and device information relayed to the device, including and not limited to song, album, band, current song position.
3. more robust controls. Bluetooth is generally only able to do your basic forward, backwards, pause / play commands. You cannot usually do album and song browsing, playlist navigation, voice control of media playback.
4. Abilirty to use additional iphone/ipod functionlaity, such as playlist, navigate song lists, "play more like this" and other additional features.


My car has one of those fancy new "qnx" based systems. it handles bluetooth fine, but using a plugged in ipod brings so many additional features that for longer drives is nice.

Same here, no long info in my Mercedes when I am using bluetooth, no phone charging and maybe it's my imagination, but it doesn't seem like the sound quality is as good.
 
Well then, keynote over and time to digest. On the plus side the iPhone 5 is faster, has a slightly improved set of camera optics over the 4s (and massively so over the present 4). The taller screen is nice enough, especially for video (which I wouldn't use) but makes the phone physically much taller - the 4/4s size fits neatly in my shirt pocket for work. Tops out at 64GB for storage, so no advantage over the 4s there. Panorama picture mode looks good and useful but is being back ported to the 4s too.

Looking at the comparison page http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/compare-iphones/ the only real advantage for me as a heavy music/web surfing surfing user over the 4s would be the faster processor and potentially LTE support if O2 ever bring it out. Can't say that I've found 3G to be especially limiting for surfing, email, Evernote etc.

UK pricing on contract isn't available yet. However Apple's page suggests the PAYG variants start at £549, a £50 increase over the equivalent 4s model. A 64GB model is likely to be £50>, not sure what effect that might have on contract handset pricing.

Right at this moment I'm torn between the 5 and the price, capacity and form factor of the 64GB 4s. One to noodle on but for the first time an upgrade to Apple's latest and greatest is not clear cut.
 
yea im in the same damn boat as you. I can actually get the 199 price but i'd rather not have my plan go from 67 a month to 92 and id like to keep my unlimited

Can you explain that further? I'm not eligible for an upgrade until dec, but wouldnt mind extending the contract if that ment i could have the subsidized price.
 
Same here, no long info in my Mercedes when I am using bluetooth, no phone charging and maybe it's my imagination, but it doesn't seem like the sound quality is as good.

you're correct.

when I bluetooth it. Its my blackberry. But the audio quality via bluetooth streaming is noticably inferior to pluggig it in directly.
 
Goodbye S2 - Hello iP5!

Those going over to Android - Good luck. I loved the switch at first. For around a month. Then I regretted it.

Its funny, when you actually look at the smartphone market, Android's market share lead isn't all that impressive.

You have "brand new" Android phones come out every month which of course each carrier markets heavily to customers. Many people go in relatively clueless and do what the salesperson sales (which is increasingly "Buy an Android"). They buy one, have it for a month and realize they aren't that fond of it. Then the new iPhone comes out once a year and 30%+ of the people upgrading to it are doing so from an Android device.

I much prefer the market share by smartphone maker (which goes something like Samsung, Apple, Nokia, HTC?) *I'm speaking of the US*
 
Why would Samsung want to touch it... it's a phone perhaps this my have been better... Oooooooh lets see? A more open platform (ie on the S3 you can share a pic throughout every app on the phone that will accept a photo. Not just tweet, email, SMS and OH MY GOD! Facebook), a wider screen, a slimmer design, a Micro USB connector (as you have to use a special connector anyway) ... that's just off the top of my head

i agree that many times the open platform offered by your s3 comes very handy but at the end whenever i had a samsung in one hand and an iphone in other i just could not ignore the way the iphone feels..very classy,very upmarket ,something for classes not masses
 
Good to see it supports 5GHz 802.11n as my 4S struggles to stream HD video (to my ATV) at 2.4GHz without pausing to buffer :)
 
It's an ironic market. The best phone (Nokia Lumia 920) does not run the best OS (iOS).

I think Apple is becoming dangerously blasé about its hardware. Nokia now has wireless charging, a buttonless design, a virtually unscratchable case, and it looks better, boasts a touchscreen that works with gloves on :eek: and has a camera with hardware-based image stabilization.

But you see, it's about the OS…
 
you're correct.

when I bluetooth it. Its my blackberry. But the audio quality via bluetooth streaming is noticably inferior to pluggig it in directly.

Really? I've never noticed it....of course it's been a while since I plugged mine in. May have to test that theory.
 
There was no problem with build quality (neither with samsung phones)

Do I care the tolerance has been dropped from 0.01mm to 0.001mm? No

The build quality from the first iphone was fine, I want some improvements I can actually use.

even i was hoping for something more radical...but i seriously think that you gonna feel the difference once you hold it in your hand
 
Yes 4" still to small for me (oh yeah you "forget" that little part of course LMAO )

And yes its 1mm thinner oh my god that makes all the difference LOL


Getting old, apple has gotten as inovative as IBM .
You do have a very good perspective on this model.

While many seem to buy into Apple's hype about it being an "All New Design" as they claim on their site, there's a lot of people that could be fooled because it's so similar to the last two years. Seems like more of the same.

That's not bad, just not exciting, or offering much in the way of improved usability.
 
It's an ironic market. The best phone (Nokia Lumia 920) does not run the best OS (iOS).

I think Apple is becoming dangerously blasé about its hardware. Nokia now has wireless charging, a buttonless design, a virtually unscratchable case, and it looks better, boasts a touchscreen that works with gloves on :eek: and has a camera with hardware-based image stabilization.

But you see, it's about the OS…

The aesthetics of the phone are subjective. I'm skeptical of this image stabilization as they had to manufacture a video shot with a different device for the keynote.

The one thing I would love to see is wireless charging. Before the rumors they were changing the dock came out, I was hoping they'd do away with it altogether. All wireless is the way were going - though maybe not everyone is ready for it.

Still, while the shell may be tougher in the Lumia 920 (which may or may not be the case) the other things you mentioned (looks better, buttonless design) are a preference. That being said if I was not getting an iP5, the Lumia 920 would be my only other look! (in yellow :cool:)

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You do have a very good perspective on this model.

While many seem to buy into Apple's hype about it being an "All New Design" as they claim on their site, there's a lot of people that could be fooled because it's so similar to the last two years. Seems like more of the same.

That's not bad, just not exciting, or offering much in the way of improved usability.

Most people are thinking about design in an incredibly superficial way (they are both rectangles with rounded corners). However I'd be willing to bet given the INCREASE in battery life, the in-cell tech, the LTE radio and the dual band antenna, this is the biggest design change of any iPhone ever.
 
I love the new lightning connector! Small and reversible! I hated the 30 pin connector!

The look (not design) of the new phone may not WOW many of us but I'm sure the user experince with LTE and a 2x faster chip will be amazing!
 
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