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They really should stop with these hyped up keynotes.

Each iphone upgrade will be a little better here and a little better there.. we get it. Just put on display.. we'll buy it.

But enough with the theatrics.

Apple doesn't hype the keynotes... They advertise them as they always have. Their advertising is actually pretty understated... Look at the poster for this one... No hyper-pole... WE hype the keynotes the million of page loads on sites like Macrumors looking for all the "leaks".

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You gotta BUY the 30pin dock adaptor? WTF???

"Lightning to 30-pin Adapter.
Soon many iPhone accessories will be Lightning compatible. But if you have one that depends on the 30-pin connector, you can still connect it to your iPhone 5. Simply use a Lightning to 30-pin Adapter (sold separately)."


SOLD separately??? Now you know apple is starting to get greedy.

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I used to be a hardcore apple guy with every :apple: but i switched to a Galaxy S2X and i must say that i much prefer it to my iphone's. Apple drooped the ball on this update.

Do you really think anybody cares what you think? Do you really think that anybody believes you were a "hardcore" apple guy? Please.....:rolleyes:
 
You gotta BUY the 30pin dock adaptor? WTF???

"Lightning to 30-pin Adapter.
Soon many iPhone accessories will be Lightning compatible. But if you have one that depends on the 30-pin connector, you can still connect it to your iPhone 5. Simply use a Lightning to 30-pin Adapter (sold separately)."


SOLD separately??? Now you know apple is starting to get greedy.

Adapters aren't free to make. Would you prefer if Apple added $30 to the price of every iPhone sold? That would certainly be unfair for all the millions of users who have no need for an adapter.

Aside from just all the raw materials, Apple has to translate 30 pins into 8. That's not the hardest thing in the world to do, but it's still an engineering challenge nonetheless.
 
Impressed: No.
Dissapointed? nope.

its a good looking phone. Decent upgrades to specs and performances, and a muc needed change to the Docking Connector.

Does it and iOS6 bring anything truly new to the field. Nope. But the phone itself is perfectly in line with the flagship offerings of other devices.

Screen size is all subjective and doesn't make it worse / better than another device.

will anyone be dissapointed in upgrading to this phone. They shouldn't be.

But nobody should upgrade thinking they're going to be getting something that nobody else has

This, and nothing else.
 
To all the idiots posting that kind of comment, please explain to me how the S3 is actually better than this new iPhone in real life? Comparing both I'd say the iPhone is much better than the S3 apart from the screen, and even then, some people don't like huge screens.

It's not. I bought into the hype and bought one over my 4S last month. It lasted 2 weeks and I took it back twice thinking the battery was bad since I only got 3 hours. I will not even get into how bad/choppy the graphics are on games.
 
Hate to break it to you, the way things are going all phones from here on out are going to be spec bumps. What do we really expect it to do? Wireless charging sucks, always has. NFC would be nice. Uhh.... hmmm... Really, what else do we need?

Slow, steady, compatible with the ecosystem and that's about all we can expect from any phone. Will I upgrade? Not likely. Maybe next gen.

AbSolutely agree - oh well
 
Hate to break it to you, the way things are going all phones from here on out are going to be spec bumps. What do we really expect it to do? Wireless charging sucks, always has. NFC would be nice. Uhh.... hmmm... Really, what else do we need?

Slow, steady, compatible with the ecosystem and that's about all we can expect from any phone. Will I upgrade? Not likely. Maybe next gen.

While I agree

There is ALWAYS something new people will want.

if you can figure out what it is.

I'll buy your stock!
You gotta BUY the 30pin dock adaptor? WTF???

"Lightning to 30-pin Adapter.
Soon many iPhone accessories will be Lightning compatible. But if you have one that depends on the 30-pin connector, you can still connect it to your iPhone 5. Simply use a Lightning to 30-pin Adapter (sold separately)."


SOLD separately??? Now you know apple is starting to get greedy.

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yes, Including one would have been a nice gesture, but not entirely required.

Apple is notoriously bad for changing proprietary standards and forced obsolescence.

However, I am thoroughly impressed with Apple and the Dock Connector. 9 years standard across their entire range of mobile media devices and phones. That is pretty impressive lengivity in th e tech world.

I don't think people remember the days when almost every single new device used it's own "cable" (though we loved finally having cables!). Every single new phone, PDA and media device had some arbitrary and non compatible power chord. it was inane. Even same company releasing each device with it's own different plug.

Apple really was one of the earliest that gave you one unifying plug, and kept it around 9 years. It's old and outdated now, and is big enought hat it could be a barrier to miniaturization ideas.

The fact that even after 9 years, instead of forcing you to buy everything brand new again no matter what, they're selling an adapter.

Could it be included. YES.
But there's really no requirement for it.
 
The back of the Black one seems fine with me, but Apple ruined the white one, bare metal over white for me looks very ugly.

And why would they ruin the speakers this badly? This makes the phone looks like a Chinese knockoff.

Goodbye iPhone, and I will stay with my One X:)
 
What about the iMac?!?! I want a 30" iMac with Retina Display - or at least an updated iMac! OMG -iMacs are nearly 500 days old. Seriously, Apple. Ugh.

Apple can make more money in one day selling the iPhone then they can selling the iMac in one year. I can understand why the Mac business is a sideline at this point.
 
@Trolls: bitch an moan all you want, does not matter how hard you yell, the iPhone 5 will sell great as all other iPhones before it. :)



I love the small details like having a sapphire glass in the camera instead of the common plastic.
 
Come on now, it's a spec bump, nothing remarkable.
Yeah, really. All they managed was to make it really thin, really light, put in a brand-new superfast A6 chip, increase the screen size, put in a better front and back camera, give it LTE and other fast networks, ship it with redesigned EarPods, and all while maintaining and even bettering the battery life.

In all seriousness, what did you expect it to have? NFC? Wireless charging? C'mon.

The thing is, aside from Apple-centric sites like this one, forum-goers won't be impressed with anything that Apple puts out. But most people don't care about specs or the very, very latest features.

Apple doesn't invent anything. They work on new technologies so they are implemented smoothly.

Besides, analysts are tripping over themselves to come up with new superlatives to describe the launch.
 
If NFC is the one feature you MUST have, then there's no reason for you to make the switch. Personally, I like the new design while keeping a consistent feel. Like they said... it's probably the object you use most in your life. Something people are comfortable with. They take changing it very serious. they didn't want to make a "new" phone, they wanted to make a "better" phone.

I completely agree. If i was already using an Iphone I wouldnt switch just for it. But because I have been spoiled by little things first on Android its hard to switch to something that doesnt have a feature I have come to enjoy.

I was just stating that I had hoped it had everything Android had at this point, it just always seems to be that there is that ONE thing missing.
 
I think it was a reasonable incremental update, don't forget this is a phone, it still has to fit in your hand and be able to put in your pocket, not forced into your pocket, Apple has reached the level where consumers and business users can use the same phone, Apple picked up where Rim failed, I have a 4s and I wont be upgrading, but there are many people who have a 4 or lower phones and they will find it as a substantial upgrade, Samsung has added some neat features, but think about it, how many actual times are you going to use some of these features, to me its very gimmicky, this is common technology, not hi tech anymore, frankly I don't give a crap anymore about phones, I need something that is going to do the job well and the iPhone does it for me.
 
I'll tell you what people wanted , a wider phone. The iPhone is so skinny you get cross eyed looking at it after a while.

you don't need to spam the forum with a bunch of random photos. Anyway you're argument about the app ecosystem doesn't make sense since it would have been easier to make it wider and taller. Now developers are going to have to make some adjustments to the new aspect ratio. I also would have liked a slightly wider phone, but damn, it's not that big of a deal. I stand by my original statement.
 
A new standard -

Tim said one line today that stuck out to me -

"When you look at each of these, they are incredibly industry-leading innovations by themselves. But what sets them apart and what places Apple way ahead of the competition is how they work so well together."

What I saw from today's announcement is that Apple created a new dock connector standard for it's product line. And based on some of the responses in the forum today, it was a good strategy to release that "new" connector as part of another product launch - the iPhone 5.

Why is it a new standard? Because the iPod Nano and the iPod Touch were updated with the new connector. Apple is basically telling everyone that this is the new connector for the iOS devices...maybe more.

Tim also said we now have Thunderbolt and Lightning. This suggests to me that these 2 "new" connectors were planned together at least in marketing, if not, in engineering. And since Thunderbolt is a desktop device only connector, this implies Apple has a "big picture" plan of how they envision "all" their devices interacting together.

And, yes, I'm suggesting that the new iPads will have the new "Lightning" connector, not just the rumored iPad mini.

A new standard, too -

What I think that most of us have been "trained" to believe is that computer based products compete solely on hardware and/or software features.

Apple is trying re-educate the masses to realize that product interactivity and integration is another key area for competition in the computer world. But it's harder for the media to hype that up because interactivity and integration between multiple devices is harder to put a "measure" to.

It's so much easier to say the iPhone is 2x faster than it's predecessor or that it's screen increased from 3.5" to 4".

Another way to look at it is to ask - "What can a computer do for me?"

And how do you quantify "I can share my music even easier than before across my phone, my music player, my computer, my laptop and my tablet"?

We were trained to believe that computers sit on or beside our desks and we type on a keyboard and interact with what's on that screen - word processor, spreadsheet, email, web browser, etc. We were trained that these boxes could be connected via a network and could interact that way - share our files.

But, remember when Apple launched the iPod? They weren't first to market. They were certainly not the cheapest and the competing products had so many other bells and whistles that the masses apparently wanted and demanded. An existing standard for "sharing" music was entrenched in this market.

But as it turns out, Apple "discovered" what the masses really wanted was a simple and easy way to access and play their music.

Apple created a "better" MP3 player and a way for it to interact with the desktop both in hardware and software. It wasn't a new piece of software that changed that market. It wasn't a new music player that changed that market. It was a new way to do what previously existed...which turned out to be a better way for many people.

How do you measure that between Apple and it's competitors?

I think many of the "disappointed" responses posted today are a reflection of the consumer desire to see more of this broader scale innovation.

I think the real "revolution" in Apple's design is that they are innovating at this scale.

They did it with the MP3 player/music market.

They did it with the smartphone market.

They created the tablet market.

They're obviously going after the online video/movie market.

But I think we as the consumers are going to have to learn what the new development cycle is for this kind innovation.

And back again -
So, when we look at these 3 and hopefully soon-to-be 4 distinct markets, let's remember what Tim said today -

"When you look at each of these, they are incredibly industry-leading innovations by themselves. But what sets them apart and what places Apple way ahead of the competition is how they work so well together."

I'm not against Samsung or any other competition. Actually, I'm waiting for them to step up to the plate and start competing in this playing field where all their competing products "work so well together". I don't simply need a faster phone or another connector. I'm looking for easier and simpler ways to access my "data" across all my digital devices and not have to worry about it.

The first one who achieves that has got vote and more significantly, my money.

My next step -
I'll be happy when I get my new iPhone because my 3G is seriously showing it's age. :)
 
Adapters aren't free to make. Would you prefer if Apple added $30 to the price of every iPhone sold? That would certainly be unfair for all the millions of users who have no need for an adapter.

Aside from just all the raw materials, Apple has to translate 30 pins into 8. That's not the hardest thing in the world to do, but it's still an engineering challenge nonetheless.

Dude, it wouldn't have cost THEM $30 to make, and the richest company in the world could have offered it as a gesture of good will for those who have peripherals. Especially on the first generation of phone to use the small connector.

You sound like one of these types see apple do no wrong no matter what they do, or what they charge.

As you can see from my gear list, I have bought a lot of apple stuff, but it doesn't mean I'm "love-struck" at everything they do. If I think something is unreasonable, I'll voice that opinion.

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