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This all sounds great and all, simplifying teams and what not. Although it is somewhat upsetting that Forstall is leaving, always had some sort of respect for him but I guess it had to be done. I see the advantage in simplifying the leadership, but does anyone else think this could also lead to diluted attention among leaders, such as Jony Ive?
 
Was Johnson a mismatch, I thought he left on his own accord? (I'm saying Browett was a Cook hire not a Johnson hire).

Not sure - I believe Johnson wanted to be CEO - and he got that with JCP - don't think he was a mismatch.

Browett was a cultural and strategic mismatch from the start - not sure what Cook and the Board were thinking. Maybe they were not thinking when they made the Browett decision.
 
Thank goodness they got rid of Browett... he was wrecking the Apple Store experience. Profit over service is dumb when you base your business on service and you have all those billions in the bank.
 
Parting gift..

Didn't Browett just snag 100k in shares that became unrestricted a few days ago. You think they could have made this decision a few days back.

Quite a parting gift
 
Wow, didn't I just read somewhere that Forestall was Jobs' heir apparent?

Anyway, like Bill Gates once said, Steve Jobs' greatest asset was his taste.

Judging by his designs and eye for detail, the same could be said for Ive, so perhaps it is not that crazy to have him in charge of how the software looks as well.
 
i do agree with one of thep revious posters about the skeuomorphism design: one thing i appreciated about it, is that each app was much easier to pick out from the other, both on the desktop and in mission control. if all the apps look the very same, i will miss this feature's impact in the positive way that it did.
 
I see this sentiment often, but no alternatives are ever mentioned as a replacement. iCloud's model is atrocious and decidedly not user-friendly.

i think iCloud would be better than the FS (for the average user, not you or I) with one significant change: an app should be able to see all files it can open, not just files it created. Why it doesn't work this way is beyond me. I am also not a fan of the iOS-style folders in os x. Columns view is much better on the desktop.

That said, I agree that the FS should never go away on the desktop. Unfortunately, the signs are all there that it is only a matter of time.
 
I can't speak to Browett since my knowledge of him is very limited, but he apparently wasn't a good fit. Hope everything goes well for him in whatever he does next. Apple is a big job to lose.

As for Mr. Ive, this is a very interesting turn of events. I'm a bit worried about his UI design abilities. He has no experience here and I can tell you first hand that good design is not simply transferable. I'm a good UI designer, but I couldn't tell you the first thing about industrial design. I do wish him all the luck in the world though. The man is an immense talent and I know Apple has some brilliant UI guys ready to make Jony and Tim proud. Johnny's obsessiveness will serve him well.

I hope in all of this that Apple is busily recruiting the best Services guys that money can buy. They need to be able to stand toe to toe with Google at every battle. I've always thought of Google as a democracy (in that they don't have an opinion. They crowd source their decisions for what most people want). Microsoft is a beurocracy (in that their decisions are made by a committee trying to sell the greatest numbers possible). And Apple is a meritocracy (in that the experts are in charge and despite what the crowds say, you trust they are the smartest guys in the room and have better foresight, aesthetics, and answers so you let them make the big decisions). Apple's way has always been my favourite, so I'll raise a glass to the experts and wish them luck.
 
I guess Forstall took the fall for Mapsgate!


That's part of it. But in 6 years (SIX years) he has kept the same interface principals. This has allowed Android and Windows phone to catch up and advance in many areas. iOS UI changes over the past 6 years: Notification center and folders.

All the saps on here say "Oh well, it's better to fine tune something that is already great, not have a major change". BUT, a huge mess of app icons and folders spread over 5+ screens is not good.

It clashes with Jony's simple and elegant hardware design.

:apple:
 
Good. Someone needs to pay the price for how lousy Siri and Maps turned out, as well as the incredibly mediocre iOS platform now. The competition is innovating, Apple's OS has remained stagnant. Hopefully this changes that.
 
Any chance Google tries to snatch up Forstall??

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I think the biggest cockup on the retail side is the rollout (or rather non-rollout) of the new iMac. It is up in the Apple store, but can not be ordered. So right now nobody can buy an iMac until next month, not even the outgoing model. I think that is enough to get a retail chief fired.
 
Forstall was the only eye candy up there on the stage during presentations. No friggen reason to watch them presentations anymore. :(
 
Le Laporte Called This Last Week

Very interesting! Leo Laporte made a comment on his MacBreak Weekly show last week that he wondered if Forstall was being punished over the Maps, because he was in the audience and not on the stage.

Laporte is da man!
 
I think the biggest cockup on the retail side is the rollout (or rather non-rollout) of the new iMac. It is up in the Apple store, but can not be ordered. So right now nobody can buy an iMac until next month, not even the outgoing model. I think that is enough to get a retail chief fired.

Definitely, although I'm not sure how much he has to do with it. But let's let him take the fall ;)
 
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