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It may imply that, but it's not true.

The fact the options are greyed out shows they're just there to taunt you. Unless you customise the order, they stay greyed out and remain unselectable.
I see what you mean...just tried it on the UK store.

I much prefer (and use) the smaller and cheaper equivalents from the likes of Anker and Ugreen with more than one port.
 
Personally, I think that Apple should limit the base chips, like the M5 here, to Mac Minis, MacBook Air and perhaps iMacs.

MacBook Pros should start with at the very least, a Mx Pro chip.


That said, I wonder if they will update the Mac Mini soon or we will have to wait another 6 months.

Off topic, but any idea how is this done on a Mac (red screen)?

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But then the base price of the MBP 14 goes up. The base M5 still gets the Pro treatment because with a fan it has more sustained performance than an M5 in the MBA or iPad Pro.
 
Don't get the 8GB of RAM is plenty in 2025 folks started. They are fine checking emails in one email app and having two Chrome tabs open at once. 😂
I'd just like to say that, on my m1 8gb 7gpu mba (the absolute worst m-series config to my knowledge) *at this very moment*, I have Apple Maps, Messages, Mail, LibreOffice with 3 spreadsheets open and thousands of cells, Safari with 33 tabs open in my current tab group, Textastic (word processor for coding), Notes, TextEdit, Steam AND two games running all at the same time!

Sure, it is a little warm, and there are stutters every now and then, but I'm absolutely amazed with this device.

And I'll probably get 64gb when I upgrade.
 
No Wifi 7 here means no Wifi 7 for the M5 Pro and M5 Max next year, which is a bad joke. So they're waiting to put Wifi 7 on the OLED M6. Damn.

It looks like Apple is also waiting until then to add a modem, probably the C2X. I don’t really need dramatic multicore performance. The base MacBook Pro would be ideal for my needs if it had a modem and 48 GB of memory. It does have 2 TB and 4 TB storage options and a nano-texture display option. Then again maybe we’ll all be running local AI models in the near future and Apple will offer discrete GPU options only with the Pro/Max chips.
 
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What an increasingly confusing product line up. New Macbook Pro is an M5 which is cheaper than the still available M4 Pro. (Likely because M4 Pro is more powerful.) It's like this across their entire PRO product line, with some still selling M4 and M3 versions.
This is precisely the problem that lead to companies like Nokia's downfall. (And Motorola and Ericsson before Nokia.) An ever expanding and confusing product offering. In fact, this was one of Jobs' big innovations was a vastly simplified product line up.
 
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What an increasingly confusing product line up. New Macbook Pro is an M5 which is cheaper than the still available M4 Pro. (Likely because M4 Pro is more powerful.) It's like this across their entire PRO product line, with some still selling M4 and M3 versions.

In its heyday, Intel was savvy with not using sequential numbers for its chips. The average consumer had no idea which chip was the most current. I appreciate Apple’s simple branding but at times it creates an Osborne Effect as those who want a Pro/Max will feel they should wait for the M5 versions. I guess Apple will always get the sale at some point so maybe it’s irrelevant from its perspective.
 
Why would anybody buy this over macbook air 15?
For me it's three simple reasons:
1. HDMI port allows me to not carry a dongle everywhere I go (I connect to TVs and external monitors all the time)
2. Fans to cool the internals during intense workflows.
3. ProMotion refresh rates on screen.

There are a bunch of other minor advantages, but those are the big three for me.

I actually think the reasons to buy a macbook air 15 over this are quite limited:
1. You want a bigger screen.
2. The similar spec 512 GB model is about $100 cheaper (in Canada anyway, it's probably less of a difference in the US)
3. You want your laptop to be 0.4 cm thinner
4. You want your laptop to weigh 0.1 pounds less

I'm sure there are some people who would simply want the bigger screen for a similar price. That's great. However, I don't think any of the other three advantages are very substantial. Probably some people care about it being thinner too, but for me weight is a much bigger factor than thinness, and the weight difference is minimal.

I would actually expect that the MacBook Pro 14 would sell more than the similar spec MacBook Air 15. I don't know how much other people care about the HDMI port, it depends on your use case... but I think a lot of users value matching the ProMotion refresh rates they have gotten used to on their phones, and a lot of users value decent cooling to prevent throttling if you are doing anything other than web browsing or watching video.
 
M5 with Thunderbolt 4 (not 5, cf. M4 Pro/Max).
M5 with no DisplayPort 2.1 support over USB-C (unlike the M4 Pro/Max)
M5 with max RAM only 32GB
M5 permits 4TB SSD though
(I have a base MacBook Pro 14", M3 generation, 24GB RAM, 2TB)
 
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Apple is really pushing the limits in Europe.
They charge €500,00 more than in the US (if you convert US$ into €) and remove the charger.
As an European customer, Apple starts to lose all that appeal it once had...
 
Apple's most powerful chip is currently the M3 Ultra that ships with Mac Studio (and this includes the recently announced M5 chip). FFS.
 
Apple is really pushing the limits in Europe.
They charge €500,00 more than in the US (if you convert US$ into €) and remove the charger.
As an European customer, Apple starts to lose all that appeal it once had...
€156 more when you remove the VAT (according to the Dutch price I just checked), because the USA price doesn't include the sales tax. Considering EU laws give better consumer rights, which will cost Apple money, I don't think it is as bad as it seems.
 
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