Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
So I guess the silicon version will be 24” and replace the 21” intel since it didn’t receive a new chip upgrade. Will the new offerings end up being 24” silicon and 27” intel?
 
  • Like
Reactions: greenbreadmmm
This is a really good upgrade and a solid computer but I have to pass. I have had iMacs in the past and I loved them but I hate investing in a 27" 5k display that I can never use with any other computer. Apple locking off the retina displays to not even work with other Macs was a very bad move and has forever turned me away from the iMac. Even target display mode on the non retina iMacs was kind of clunky to use.

I bought a Mac mini and eGPU for this very reason. I wish Apple would increase the size of the Mini and make a Mini Pro with the same guts as the iMac minus the display for those of us that like to use the display of our choice.
 
8 years is a great run for this design. It’s functionally and aesthetically pleasing. I’m stoked that Apple has kept this design for so long - it’s a sustainable move and I applaud them. Also looking forward to the redesign w/ their Apple Silicone as well, but this is one of my favorite recent designs from Apple.
 
The upgrade prices remain pretty nasty.

$400 / £400 to go from i7 to i9
$300 / £300 to go from 5500 XT to 5700 XT (or $500 for 5700XT)
$200 / £200 to go from 512GB to 1TB SSD

The CPU one is particularly harsh, given that Intel's price difference between top i7 to top i9 is only about $100.

The update from 8-Core to the 10-core is just not worth it...IMHO. Unless you REALLY have a workload that is going to benefit from those two extra cores, I suspect the T2 is going to make up the difference in other areas to obviate that upgrade.

I would love to see the differential between the 5500XT and the 5700XT before saying Nay.

The SSD costs are typically Apple, so I don’t really notice them as they are what they are.

Let’s hope some benchmarks of the 5500XT versus the 5700XT are in somebody’s pipeline.
 
ARM macs aren't ready yet, which is where we'll see the redesign. If Apple didn't refresh the internals, people would complain. Apple did refresh the internals, and people still complain.

One of the biggest complaints about Apple in recent years was that the Mac product was being neglected with all the devices getting massive gaps between updates. I know they’ve still got a way to go with some (I’m looking at you Mac Mini), but they do seem to be back on regular spec bumps for iMacs and laptops which is to be applauded.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Spk1 and zedsdead
Seems like a nice refresh to me. I bought the 2019 model, but am not worried about this one.

Will sell my current machine when the Silicon redesign comes out.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Spk1
Looooooong overdue. Finally SSD's standard, about three years too late, but hey...

Looks like a good update, but the prices are a little unrealistic. If anything, it makes the 16" MBP good value.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Spk1
This seems like an uninspired lazy spec bump. File under why bother... I didn't really expect any different though. Maybe next year...
 
It amazes me why it took so long to feature 1080p webcams for AIO desktops. I guess COVID-19 forced the upgrade because of everyone doing video conferencing.

Yep, completely insane. Still have the terrible ones on the MacBooks.
 
Looooooong overdue. Finally SSD's standard, about three years too late, but hey...

Looks like a good update, but the prices are a little unrealistic.

I agree. However, there are a few ways to save a few bucks. 1) I'd install 2x32 RAM myself. 2) I'd order with the 1 TB SSD and then possibly get another 1 TB Thunderbolt NVMe SSD (for storage overflow) which works surprisingly well. And of course use standard HDDs for TimeMachine and archive.
 
Honest question for all the people complaining about the "same old design": what do you want to see in a redesign? Something specific, or just a change for the sake of change? I've seen a lot of comments about smaller/no bezels. Okay, I can take that. Apple should have the resources to make an iMac with much smaller bezels and no "chin." I would like less of a "baby bump" in back. IMO, ge rid of the fusion drive. No other Macs have had one in years. That should save some space. I'd also like to see something like the Microsoft Surface Studio: adjustable height & angle, touchscreen that works with the Apple Pencil. Yes, I know, macOS isn't optimized for touch input, but it's not mutually exclusive with keyboard/mouse. Plus, touch input could help with graphic design apps.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 0128672

You forgot one...

5fb818a2d95a0be7bce0e5aa11fb4af2.jpg
 
One of the biggest complaints about Apple in recent years was that the Mac product was being neglected with all the devices getting massive gaps between updates. I know they’ve still got a way to go with some (I’m looking at you Mac Mini), but they do seem to be back on regular spec bumps for iMacs and laptops which is to be applauded.
Considering Apple gets most of its money from iPhones, why bother with Macs? Once a full, working version of Xcode moves to iPad, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple made fewer and fewer updates to Macs. Possibly even cute them entirely. Shame, because if anyone has the resources to do both iPads & Macs, it's Apple.
 
Well, I mean product design is one of the ethos of Apple. How an Apple product looks and feels often takes precedence over performance, especially during the Jony Ive era. And this is what, a ten year old design? I get why though - so there would be clear differentiation between this and the new ARM iMacs.
So I’m wondering why people honestly think they’d invest in a new chassis on a spec bump for what’s likely to be the last of the Intel iMac offerings.

Personally when it comes to the iMac I think the design is solid. I’ve taken many of these apart and I don’t think it makes any sense to change the entire tooling line for a chassis with a smaller bezel given the internal layout.

Which then obviously circles back to why would they dump a ton of money into a complete internal redesign for the last gen of these machines? I get people are annoyed, but it makes no business sense at all.
 
I could care less about the design. As a video editor who has to kind of stay on Macs, this is a beautiful machine for the price. Getting up to 10 cores, a good video card, and user upgradeable ram is nice for the price. It may be dated, but if you stick 64GB of ram into this with the upgraded processor you have an amazing machine. The only risk could be apple silicon taking this for a ride. I am on a 21.5 inch i7 with an ultrawide for video editing work at home, and its been fine, but I will look to sell it and upgrade to one of these once they hit the refurb market.
 
This is probably the last Intel Mac ever right?

I wish they updated the 16" MBP properly like this, instead of just adding a higher end GPU this year..
 
  • Like
Reactions: RyanXM
The question is if the chassis can really handle the 10 core model at all considering it's still 14nm tech

Also with the 5700XT, this is going to be best gaming mac until if/ever gaming industry decides to adopt Apple Silicon and bring the latest AAA games as bootcamp won't be an option for the future ARMacs
 
  • Like
Reactions: filmgirl and RyanXM
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.