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Still the same outrageous $500+ TAX price tag…
Still happy with an 8GB iPhone 5c, although a bit tight.
 
No 128GB.

Same giant bezels.

Wish Apple would give us a flagship 4" iPhone. Hanging onto my iPhone 5 for another year. :(

This keynote...protruding camera on the iPad? Ridiculous. Starting with 15 minutes of research and health was worthy, but incredibly boring. Only Phil Schiller exuded any appreciable enthusiasm. The Apple Watch is obviously selling badly; no sales figures and a 20% price drop. The iPad has been increased in price by 20%; just what is needed in the face of 8 quarters of plummeting sales. Shares are down post-keynote.

I find the death of Apple painful to watch. All good things come to an end, I guess. I'm grateful to Steve Jobs and all who worked with him for his amazing products.

Cannot agree more with this analysis.

I wish Apple had announced battery life management improvement for iPhone and iPad, leather loop bands in 38mm sizes (why only 42mm), shuffling music videos on the iPad -Pro for me- full screen instead of the stamp-sized display and make the control switches by someone who actually uses the music/video apps (used to worked fine in iOS 7, if i remember correctly) and overall iOS improvements to make it really user-friendly (why are buttons moving around between iPhone and iPad? and why not have navigation buttons at the bottom and decision buttons at the top to make the iOS useable on larger screen like iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus), music app displaying my last choice when i cal it back (my playlists, for me) instead of trying to force me into Apple Music that i do not use, and last but not least, bring Steve Jobs back - why was he fired anyway :O) - to bring user-friendly iTunes rather than finance driven releases...
 
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LOL. $400 is "cheap" to you? In a world of Android phones that allow you to expand the memory to 32 GB or more and still be under $100 total price, you have a pretty skewed perceptive.

You should have strikethrough'ed the "lower end" portion for a better edit.

But then you have to use an Android phone. And at $299 they're mainly junk unless you can get a Nexus
 
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64GB model..

Apple.com = $499 (+ tax?)
Apple.se = $563 + tax

That $64 extra on top kinda sucks..
 
why not? does it (or would it) put you off buying it, and drive you towards a higher-spec, higher price device? If so, that's exactly Apple's intention in making this so-called gimp phone.

Personally, gimp suits me fine. I'll be happy to pay way less for the SE than I would for the 6S or 7.

It's a fact that Apple was a late comer to offer the larger screen sizes - and/because - larger sizes are more popular in Asia. The 6 sans S models are discounted and should cover the lower end Asian markets well. Sooo...

There's no reason to force people to lug around larger phones just to get the latest tech specs. I tried a 4.7" iPhone 6 and it was just too big. My wife has a 6s plus and is ok with the size, but thinks the phone is a bit slow when it "behaves" like an iPad (the plus sizes have iPad-like orientation features). We avoided the 6 plus altogether for that performance reason.

I'll just stay with my 64 GB 5s. It was replaced under warranty due to a bad accelerometer and only has a year of battery use. It works fine.

I'm an iOS dev and have owned nearly every iPhone model up till now, but am planning to sit out for a while.
 
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I find that the "SE" naming peculiar because Apple could have called it an iPhone 6 SE or something.

The only reason to leave out the model number is because Apple doesn't plan for the phone to follow any sort of regular upgrade schedule. This way, they won't have a phone that sounds a generation behind when the iPhone 7 is released.


At least for me, it's about what Apple does to their UX reputation, not about what *I WANT*. I'll just buy the 64GB version. The problem is the newbies who go to the phone store and buy the base model (that's pushed and advertised constantly, as that's the price they have in their head), assuming that with a premium phone like an iPhone, even the base model should be OK. Then, after a few months, they find they are struggling with storage.

The point being, the amount Apple gains in up-sells (short term) isn't worth the potential bad user experience (long term).

I'm sorry, but how long have phones with 16 GB of storage existed?

It's not new, and I'm sure some people will be burned by the lack of storage after awhile, but the number will be few because of how ubiquitous 16 GB of storage is, and has been, both in Apple mobile devices in the last....I don't know.....7 years or so (guesstimate), and the rest of the mobile industry.


It's the 1 GB of RAM that would be a UX killer, but there's hope that the SE will have 2 GB of RAM.
 
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I wasn't talking about 3D Touch. I mean that after the 7 is announced the SE will start to be a gen behind. If they wanted a small phone with the latest features they'd just call it the 6 mini or something. Apple is really giving us the middle finger on this.

Middle finger...
Well, sure. I missed that part.
 
What's there to be shocked at? The $399 starting price is ridiculous, only a fool would pay that for 16GB device. The real starting price is $499 for the 64GB.
Outside of us here on Macrumors the majority of people still tend to go for the 16GB models.

I'm actually surprised so many people are shocked about it starting at 16GB. Did people really think Apple would start their low end device at higher storage than the flagship 6s?
 
For me, the 4/4S is the best iPhone design they've done

I have the 32gb 5S at the moment and the contracts up at the end of April, but Im going to wait till September and see what the iPhone 7/7Plus has to offer and if the headphone port is scrapped and if it is then I might jump on the 5SE, I have nice headphones that I like and a stereo jack in the car that work fine and don't need an potentially ugly accessory to make them usable.
 
Yep. I hope the iPhone 7 will start the new 32 Gb base model era

It won't.

16GB and 32GB of memory actually costs essentially the same to Apple (and all other mobile phone makers). However, if Apple gives you 32 GB, chances are you'll live with it and never pay for a memory upgrade to 64 GB.
However, if they give you 16 GB, there's a better chance a casual user will bite and opt for the 64 GB.

Apple are not after those users who would definitely get the 64 GB version. That upgrade money is already locked in. Apple are after those casual users who would prefer 32 GB, but could live with 16 GB (or even 24 GB if it existed), but may be willing to pay a small amount to go to 64 GB.

The only way this pricing situation will change is if.....well........no, it won't change for awhile. ;) It relies on the cost of storage, which doesn't change as rapidly as it should.
 
Yep. I hope the iPhone 7 will start the new 32 Gb base model era

16GB is fine for iOS. IOS are optimized to use less storage space and less RAM. If you care about specs, go to Android (or get a higher stoarge option from Apple). Touchwiz is so bloated that if Samsung used 16gb, only 1 GB storage space would be left.
 
According to Apple's compare section the SE does not have the 2nd gen Touch ID. Which is kind of disappointing, I was hoping it would have it.
what - you can't bear to wait one second for your phone to unlock?! How were you coping prior to touch ID? Life must have been awful...

by the way, i mean this as a joke. I know what the internet is like.
 
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Who cares if it's 100 year old design (aside from that being before smartphones). Good design, is good design. You're talking about fashion. We traditional Apple folks never cared much about that (despite the rumors).



Yea, that's what I've heard from some friends as well... that 2nd gen is almost too fast. So, if that's the case, I'm fine with 1st gen. I don't remember people complaining about 1st gen.
there's people complaining about Ist gen on this very thread - and now you're complaining about 2nd gen being too fast?! Is anyone ever happy?

My slightly tatty 5S is great. I'll pay for a new battery soon but apart from that - awesome.
 
No, I'm not worried in the least. As I posited in another post, I think this device is design for buyers on the fringe of Apple's consumer base: people that demand the legacy form factor, people that are low-turnover buyers (non-annual upgraders, which don't tend to be tech or spec addicts) and people are a deal hunters.

I would wager that very little R&D had to be done in developing the components to the form factor, so this is intended to be a moderate volume design that's intended to target the above groups, and possibly to grow the iOS install base among those still using feature phones.

This. I have a good friend who still uses a 4s because she has small hands and thinks even 4" is too big. This will allow her to upgrade, and even $0 on Sprint contract, and get a much more powerful phone than her 4s. This forum is overwhelmingly male, so our impressions of what the other 50% of the population may favor could be mistaken. Also, not everyone is a full fledged nerd. Millions of people simply want to make phone calls, check their email and play Angry Birds. Again, the SE is perfect for them. Add in the millions who think you're insane to pay so much for an iPhone (my insurance guy almost fainted when I told him I paid $1000 for a 6s+ with AppleCare) or can't afford one. The SE is perfect for them.

I love my 5.5" screen but, to be honest, I can still do almost everything on my 4" 5th Gen Touch that I do on the 6s+. If finances are tighter when it's time for me to upgrade, I could easily see myself going for whatever SE version is available then for $400.
 
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WTF?!?!? This is the first decently priced phone since the 5 in Australia!! I am amazed!
 
Think apple have really shot them selves in the foot here just with prices, $399 and $499 compared to £359 and £439 and €489 and €589.

I have been waiting for this iPhone for a while and just because of the price difference I will not buy it!

And about the presentation of the iPhone SE... I have never seen a more boring presentation from apple, they are really going down hill on so many levels.
Steve could be funny, but apart from that - just billionaire douchebags talking marketing.
 
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