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Apple Announces October Event for Macs: 'Scary Fast'
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Oh, I’m not saying it’s all his fault, like I said before, his sources are very likely being fed false info to weed out the leakers. And I’m not a Gurman hater. But I think he’s been a lot less accurate as of late than he once was. Again, probably due to Apple doing a better job of preventing leaks and spreading around misinformation to leakers. But some want to deny that reality and pretend that he’s been perfectly accurate this past year or so.
As Apple should.
The US is only 4% of the world population. The other 96% represents growth opportunities for Apple.
But, you may object, that other 96% can't afford Apple products.
You'd be correct in part. But there are more people who can afford Apple products outside of the US than inside the US.
Every time you hear an American politician employing demagoguery over CHINA!CHINA!CHINA! you are hearing the voice of a polity that has not come to terms with the 21st century.
The "demagoguery over China" has nothing to do with what products their people are buying.
Probably with 24 Hz refresh rate and support fot 16-bit color depth (thousands of colors).
I note comments about M3 etc. won't fit in the iMac 24in. chassis, but do we know the size of the M3, M3Pro, etc.?
Until/unless we do, its conjecture, as one thing we do know is the 3nm M3 packs more transistors and punch into a smaller chip than either the m1 or M2?
If Apple set their mind to something, they will make it happen, one way or another.
I note also that Apple pursuing games market, a very much 'I told you so', because Apple are migrating from a computer and phone business in to full scale entertainment which embraces games.
They know with all the rulings in the offing about charges, they will more than compensate by increased revenue from entertainment and if Apple put their mind to it, it will happen.
Look at the rise in Apple financed films/series.
Games have not been in the target previously but they are now, as they fit in perfectly with the entertainments where Apple sees more growth than in App Store percentages, but where even if side loading is forced upon them, it won't affect the entertainments side of things.
Until/unless we do, its conjecture, as one thing we do know is the 3nm M3 packs more transistors and punch into a smaller chip than either the m1 or M2?
If Apple set their mind to something, they will make it happen, one way or another.
I note also that Apple pursuing games market, a very much 'I told you so', because Apple are migrating from a computer and phone business in to full scale entertainment which embraces games.
They know with all the rulings in the offing about charges, they will more than compensate by increased revenue from entertainment and if Apple put their mind to it, it will happen.
Look at the rise in Apple financed films/series.
Games have not been in the target previously but they are now, as they fit in perfectly with the entertainments where Apple sees more growth than in App Store percentages, but where even if side loading is forced upon them, it won't affect the entertainments side of things.
Yes.
And make it a 17in and use the same tubes that the emac had so they could use and restart that production line again.
While we don’t know but we can examine previous history of processor (and memory too) development (all processor chips not just ARM SoC). When updated technology allows for the shrinkage of individual elements the typical response is to take advantage of that shrinkage to add additional capabilities. The resulting die size then either remains the same size or it even grows.
The occasions where it resulted in reduction of die size (and also reduced cost since you got more dies per wafer), it was typically to retain (not improve) existing performance with the emphasis purely on miniaturization and/or power savings.
Back to the M3. Since all of talk appears about improving performance and adding capabilities, it would be very surprising in the chip size shrunk, from a historical perspective.
Why wouldn’t the M3 fit in a 24” iMac? If it is going to fit in iPads and MacBooks, how would it not fit in an iMac?
I think you misunderstood my intention. I believe that the M3 WILL fit since I think physically the M3 chip (and heat sink) will stay close to size of the M1 or M2 (just slight growth).
It’s The the Mx PRO and Mx MAX chips that won’t fit within the 24” iMac. The iMac logic board is significantly smaller (especially in width) as compared to MBP. The 24” iMac motherboard is squeezed in the chin, there is no space behind the 24” iMac display, the M1 iMac is just too thin. The M2 Pro chip won’t fit and I believe the M3 Pro chip won’t be any smaller.
Ok, that makes sense, I just saw the comment saying people were saying the M3 wouldn’t fit in a 24” iMac, and that confused me. 👍🏻
Clocks don't "fall back" on Halloween and you don't gain an hour, you lose an hour of sleep.That officially happens at 2am, so those lucky few can stay up to watch the event, then roll the clocks back and watch the event again in the hour gained. So, so lucky!
Then on Monday, when they are late to work, they can explain they got confused about which weekend was the "fall back" one... and hope to redirect their angry boss with talk about the new <whatever> Apple announced.
Would make so much sense. Steamdeck made success and it has inferior hardware to an ipad, albeit apple let's you do nothing on an ipad right now.
Not all of Apple’s current products have the newest chip in them. I don’t think most of the target audience for the Vision Pro are really going to care a lot about whether it has an “out of date” M2 chip, or an M3. 🤷🏼♂️. I mean, if that were the case, then the current iMac is “out of date” because it has an M1. 🤷🏼♂️. The latest model of a product is in date, whether it has an “out of date” chip or not. See iPad 10th Gen, iPad Mini, iPad Air, iPhone SE, iPhone 15 (reused the A16), etc.
I don't see your logic. The current iMac is out of date because there are newer and faster chips within the Mac line. If Apple had not discontinued the 12" Macbook with an i7 chip, would you say it's not out of date just because there are no newer Macbook 12" models?
And not everyone changes clocks as I do not as I am in Arizona and there are other places in the world that do not do it too and some countries have theirs at different days too.
What I’m saying is that Apple has current models of devices that don’t have the “latest and greatest” of chips. Case in point, the iPhone 15, which is just recycling the A16 Bionic. The iPhone 15 was just recently released, no-one would argue it’s “out of date”, yet it has a chip that is a bit older. So if it isn’t a big issue for a new iPhone to not have “the latest and greatest chip” (the A17 Bionic in the iPhone 15 Pro), then I don’t think it’s a big deal for a niche device like the Vision Pro to have a chip that isn’t the “latest and greatest” either.
P.S. I probably would say that if Apple were still selling an i7 12” MacBook that that was the current model of 12” MacBook. Whether or not a device is current or not isn’t determined by whether a device is using all of the latest technology found in any other product, it’s determined by whether it’s the newest available model of that device.
What is the "target audience" of Vision Pro? I would say early tech adopters, who are gonna still get it but some may want to wait for the next generation if m3s end up being much better than m2. In the sense that as things are now, I do not see any specific needs or space that it fills.
Exactly my point, I don‘t think most people who wanted to get the Vision Pro are going to say “oh well, I thought the Vision Pro looked cool, and I totally wanted to buy it, but now that another device has an M3 chip, I just can’t do it anymore”. Maybe some would be that petty, but if you were actually interested in the device and what it could do, I don’t see how another device getting a different chip would change that, and I don’t think that is going to factor into most people’s decision.
We hadn't realized the 11" MacBook Air and retina MacBook possessed similar dimensions before seeing that chart posted earlier in this thread. Our 11" MacBook Air was a super travel companion! While we like our M1 MacBook Airs, we'd think seriously about buying a similar-sized (with current specs/features) 12" MacBook if Apple offered one.
Then it would make more sense to partner with Xbox. Add Gamepass and cloud gaming to the services. It would make any ipad or iphone a great portable gaming device. Nintendo cloud is very limited and the old games are not any better than what you find on the App Store.