Apple Announces Release of Safari 5 with Extensions - But Where Is It?

[dpfenninger]

Overall, some nice improvements. However...

...I have found one website that seems to lock Safari 5 up:

http://www.pingtest.net/

Can anyone else confirm?

 

[kainjow]

...I have found one website that seems to lock Safari 5 up:

http://www.pingtest.net/

Can anyone else confirm?

Worked for me, although I have Click2Flash installed.

 

[jmj]

Glad they brought back the blue progress bar. They heard the complaints.

Reader is pretty sweet. Be interesting to see how many sites support it.

Hopefully we see some solid extensions soon. A genuine adblocker for one, not llke the hacky ad hiders on Chrome.

I'll probably stay with Firefox as my default, but could be swayed back with some solid extensions.

Nice update on the whole. Props to Apple.

 

[Stella]

I'm wondering how useful extensions will be.

They are not plugins, they are glorified HTML Web apps.

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Reader is pretty sweet. Be interesting to see how many sites support it.

Well it's not like they need to support it. I'm sure Safari is just detecting the content of the article due to the way most sites serve that kind of dynamic content.

 

[Bueller007]

...I have found one website that seems to lock Safari 5 up:

http://www.pingtest.net/

Can anyone else confirm?

Works fine for me. It's you. Probably something to do with Java.

 

[Nermal]

...I have found one website that seems to lock Safari 5 up:

http://www.pingtest.net/

Can anyone else confirm?

Working here, although it did take a very long time to choose the best server (over a minute).

 

[toughboy]

WE GOT OUR BLUE PROGRESS BAR BACK!!! WHO CARES ABOUT THE REST!!!!!

Thx for acknowledging us Steve!

 

[iDarbert]

Downloaded it

Installed it

Rebooted

Blue screen with mouse pointer

5 minutes passes...

Forced reboot

Now have Safari 5.

Why the reboot? Chrome does not need it.

STILL no save all pages upon exit. I guess I stick with Chrome 4 now :-(

Because Safari actually installs the WebKit rendering engine as a Framework under Mac OS X, so that updating Safari also updates the rendering engine for all the apps that use it (well, except apps that bundle it on their own like Google Chrome).

WebKit is a system component, hence the reboot when it's updated.

Also, Safari had an option to restore all the Windows and Tabs that were opened before quit for several versions now, it's under History.

 

[mk_in_mke]

anyone else notice they changed the gradient on the top sites page or is it just me?

It's not you only... This was announced as the number one new feature by Apple... Something no other browser has... Isn't it amaaaazzing?

All joke aside... you're for real?

 

[vohdoun]

Worked for me, although I have Click2Flash installed.

Same but I enabled it to see and it's not locking up.

I'm so giddy now that HTML5 is so smooth on Safari 5 for viewing HD on YouTube for PPC!

 

[Nermal]

Well it's not like they need to support it. I'm sure Safari is just detecting the content of the article due to the way most sites serve that kind of dynamic content.

There might be some tags that improve detection though (I haven't looked at any developer documentation yet). The only site I've tried it on didn't work properly; page 2 of Reader showed the content of a different article rather than the current article's second page (Reader apparently followed the "next article" link instead of "next page").

 

[tkermit]

Full-screen HTML5 video is available.

Oh, you mean full-screening the browser window to your entire monitor? The web doesn't work like that. No one wants to see that.

Ironically enough, Youtube have recently stopped offering the HTML5 full-screen option for their videos and now only allow maximizing the video to the full size of its container window, expecting the browser to offer a full-screen mode (which Safari 5 doesn't)...

User agents should not provide a public API to cause videos to be shown full-screen

 

[xDYLANx]

WE GOT OUR BLUE PROGRESS BAR BACK!!! WHO CARES ABOUT THE REST!!!!!

Thx for acknowledging us Steve!

That's honestly what I was most excited about. I've missed it so much.

 

[dpfenninger]

...I have found one website that seems to lock Safari 5 up:

http://www.pingtest.net/

Can anyone else confirm?

Ok, I guess it is just me. Another weird glitch so far...logging off of Gmail leaves my username intact on the ensuing login screen. Clicking on "Sign in as a different user" doesn't work though...it keeps coming back to the same username already filled in.

 

[dpfenninger]

Ok, I guess it is just me. Another weird glitch so far...logging off of Gmail leaves my username intact on the ensuing login screen. Clicking on "Sign in as a different user" doesn't work though...it keeps coming back to the same username already filled in.

Pingtest.net now works for me...just takes a while to load after the spinning beachball.

 

[AidenShaw]

WebKit is a system component, hence the reboot when it's updated.

Bull***t.

I can upgrade the firmware for the NIC and SCSI/SAS controllers, and their drivers, on my Windows systems without requiring a reboot.

It's pretty sad if OSX makes you reboot for an application library update.

 

[MikhailT]

I'm wondering how useful extensions will be.

They are not plugins, they are glorified HTML Web apps.

Look at Chrome's extensions or JetPack from Mozilla, they are glorified HTML web apps as well.

They can be very useful and can link to other apps in the background, like 1Password, even tho it already exist as a plugin.

 

[mrkgoo]

Bull***t.

I can upgrade the firmware for the NIC and SCSI/SAS controllers, and their drivers, on my Windows systems without requiring a reboot.

It's pretty sad if OSX makes you reboot for an application library update.

Personally, I find it sad if you find it matters all that much.

Mac OS X caches a lot of system files to improve performance. The reboot ensures the correct library files are cached.

 

[Tailpike1153]

I must not be cool. I haven't gotten the update yet or dl'd Safari 5 from the Apple website. I feel so small.

 

[RazHyena]

I don't notice any speed increase. :/

Just the blue liquid filling up the address bar when a new page loads.

 

[VanNess]

WE GOT OUR BLUE PROGRESS BAR BACK!!! WHO CARES ABOUT THE REST!!!!!

Thx for acknowledging us Steve!

This is, by far, the best news of the day.

 

[MikhailT]

Bull***t.

I can upgrade the firmware for the NIC and SCSI/SAS controllers, and their drivers, on my Windows systems without requiring a reboot.

It's pretty sad if OSX makes you reboot for an application library update.

That's because firmware and drivers don't have other applications using them, they are in userland space that can be updated without affecting the rest of the system. Drivers are not called directly either, applications use the APIs directly, not drivers.

Webkit is being used by Adium, Mail.app, and so on. Updating webkit at same time those apps are using it can easily crash them or corrupt some files. To fix that is to reboot.

A direct comparison is DirectX update, which many system apps depend on to draw images. If you were to update DirectX, you will be required to reboot as well.

 

[PlaceofDis]

I don't notice any speed increase. :/

Just the blue liquid filling up the address bar when a new page loads.

if its liquid, your computer might have other, more pressing issues.

 

[Stella]

Look at Chrome's extensions or JetPack from Mozilla, they are glorified HTML web apps as well.

They can be very useful and can link to other apps in the background, like 1Password, even tho it already exist as a plugin.

I couldn't find any documentation in Apple's documentation about how to communicate between extensions and running OSX apps. I'll have to look again.