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Apple Announces Safari 4

LukeW16 said:
That is the method I followed. Is there a way to stop safari controlling m topsites as you mentioned?
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If you manually added sites by dragging from the address bar into the Top Sites window, they shouldn't move if you reset Safari or surf other sites more frequently. I've reset many times and they're all still where I put them.
 
Rorikynn said:
That is a rather new development in browser design. I would expect Safari to adopt this approach in the future.



I would assume the Leopard version is using the new GC support provided by the objective-c 2.0 runtime. Which should help with leaky code (if there was any to begin with). A lot of the memory usage is probably intentional. Better to keep objects that are most likely going to be needed again than to dealloc and re-alloc everytime. Again, I don't know how Safari's structured, so a total shot in the dark hear.



Again, the Leopard version is probably GC'd. One thread per each tab isn't going to do anything in that area. You probably meant one process per tab, a la Google's Chrome.
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Yes, yes and yes. I cannot believe that it took this long for any browser to think that little gem up, and google chrome of all things. I really would like to see an end to the complete browser crash, nothing more disheartening that seeing your hard disk swap like crazy and browser become unresponsive, knowing in a few seconds all your dozens of open pages will be gone, most of whom for good.

Of course your browser hogging all of your system memory and making your mac unresponsive is just as annoying.
 
Only short comings I've come across so far:
Tabs can't be made by double clicking the empty tab area (as there is none)
Tabs can't be rapidly deleted by clicking in the same spot as the tabs adjust size whenever a new one is made/old one closed.
There is a very small area that you can actually grab to drag a tab, unlike Safari 3 where the entire tab was drag-able.

Things I love:
when typing in a URL the bookmarks, history and top sites are organized.
The UI of Top Sites.
The reload button is like the iPhone's.
The tabs are on top, thus saving room.
the rounded edges of the lists that pop out of the URL box and search box. I hope all menus are like this in Snow Leopard.

PS: Wasn't there supposed to be a feature of Safari 4 where you could save a site as an application?
 
My first reaction to Safari 4: WHOA. Now this is cool. Plus, it really is Nitro-charged. My favorite JS-heavy sites absolutely fly on this browser.

Two thumbs up. Haven't found any serious (or even minor) bugs yet.
 
mrkgoo said:
I understand what you mean, but for some reason, this does feel natural to me. I was always bugged a little by Safari 3, that the deselected tabs were darker. I like the new style.

I admit I'm having slight trouble with selecting tabs due to it also being the drag point for the window. I also admit the little 'x' to close the tab is SO Windows. I think it makes more sense to have the close tab at the right (like safari 3 - though I realise it is because the title is left-justified there), and the drag point on the left. Actually, maybe not. After all the drag point for a window is on the right, and the close is on the left.

Oh I don't know.
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I don't see why the shade of grey of the tab and the grey around the tool and bookmark bars isn't the same shade of grey. There's no line separating them. The old tabs had a separating line at least. It's all a mess I say.

Oh the old tabs has x's (or something) to close them didn't they? They didn't look as cheesy tho.
 
GGJstudios said:
If you manually added sites by dragging from the address bar into the Top Sites window, they shouldn't move if you reset Safari or surf other sites more frequently. I've reset many times and they're all still where I put them.
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Quitting safari cause most of my topsites to be removed. Im not sure whats wrong :/
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
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The reload button is like the iPhone's. *thank you, was looking for that*
The tabs are on top, thus saving room.
the rounded edges of the lists that pop out of the URL box and search box. I hope all menus are like this in Snow Leopard.

PS: Wasn't there supposed to be a feature of Safari 4 where you could save a site as an application?
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You mean like Fluid or Webclip?
 
Dmac77 said:
Has anyone else noticed that Apple has done away with the reload button? That really sucks! Apple has put way to much gimmicky crap in Safari 4. I want to view my history without coverflow!

Don
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It's there. Look next to the RSS feed button.

Just drag the top portion of cover flow all the way to the top so you don't see the graphics.
 
imac9556 said:
If your 1Passwords stops working you need to modify the SupportedBrowsers.plist File.
This allows 1Password to work with this developer preview version of Safari.

This file is located within 1Password App itself so you need to do the following:
Right click 1Password and "Show Application Contents"
Go to:
Contents -> Resources -> SupportedBrowsers.plist
Open this file with TextEdit and copy and paste the following(replace all the text in this file):

Code: 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
	<key>Camino</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPCaminoPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>2010</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>1.0.1</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdCamino</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>org.mozilla.camino</string>
	</dict>
	<key>DEVONagent</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPDevonAgentPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>2.3.1</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>2.0</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdDEVONagent</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>com.devon-technologies.agent</string>
	</dict>
	<key>NetNewsWire</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPNetNewsWirePlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>9999</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>462</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdNNW</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>com.ranchero.NetNewsWire</string>
	</dict>
	<key>OmniWeb</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPOmniWebPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>623</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>607.17</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdOmniWeb</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>com.omnigroup.OmniWeb5</string>
	</dict>
	<key>Safari</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPSafariPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>5528.16</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>412</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdSafari</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>com.apple.Safari</string>
	</dict>
	<key>WebKit</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPSafariPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>23700</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>0</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdSafari</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>org.webkit.nightly.WebKit</string>
	</dict>
	<key>Fluid</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPFluidPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>0.9.1.3</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>0.8</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdFluid</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>com.fluidapp.FluidInstance.</string>
	</dict>
</dict>
</plist>
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Thanks! Worked like a charm!
Remember to click customize toolbar and add the 1Password button!:D
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
No, because it's a much smaller space. I liked that in the old safari I could tap ANYWHERE there wasn't a tab on the tab bar and it'd open a new one.
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I agree that was convenient, unless you already had a large number of tabs open, and there was no more empty space on the tab bar. At least this way, it works the same, regardless of how many tabs are open.
 
First of all I must say..

This is THE fastest browser on the planet, period. I haven't used a faster browser, ever. It sends Firefox back for development from scratch.

I like Top sites. However, I don't like the new tab management. I really liked tabs the way they were in Safari 3. They were more elegant, and easy to use. Why did they changed that?
 
I'm Surprised

Wow. I just finished installing Safari 4 on Windows and when I opened it I was confused. It looks exactly the same as Google Chrome. The only difference is that there are two bars at the top (address and google search) instead of 1 like Chrome and the Bookmarks Bar doesn't show the website thumbnails like Chrome. Other than those two things the Safari 4 on Windows interface looks exactly the same as Chrome.

Take a look for yourself. What do you think?

Safari 4
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Chrome
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GGJstudios said:
If you manually added sites by dragging from the address bar into the Top Sites window, they shouldn't move if you reset Safari or surf other sites more frequently. I've reset many times and they're all still where I put them.
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I have changed the look of safari 4 ( normal tabs, blue load bar and refresh button, open links in new tab if set to open in window) Could these be causing the problem?
 
how to i revert back to the "normal" way to load pages on safari 4. I did the terminal command for the blue loading bar, i would like to revert back.
 
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