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Apple Announces Safari 4
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Is this not the same as Safari 4? Light colored tab is active?
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I've been using Safari hardcore all day and I must say this is FAST. I guess I can stop using Firefox again but I do wish Stumbleupon was available for Safari.
And I always had the impression forever was slightly longer than 1 second
Forever is actually 3.5 seconds or longer.
I have been running Safari 4 all day with 10 tabs open and I have to say I really like it. It is definitely faster than Safari 3+ on my old PowerBook. The Show Top Sites is really cool and I use it almost like spaces.
Two thumbs up on Safari 4!
Two thumbs up on Safari 4!
The web-based game The Kingdom of Loathing is the best example I can think of at the moment... lots of AJAX and other JavaScripty stuff once you log in.
Sorry, I forgot to reply to you the first time and the second time... I'm going to blame that on Safari 4.
Tried it. Don't like it.
I suspect lots of people will like this, but not me. I tried it and am going back to Safari 3. Some of the changes are nice. My problem is the absolute lack of choice for the user. While I can see some people preferring the new tabs, I hate them. It's just my personal preference. But with this, I have no choice. It's pretty much take it or leave it. After a couple hours with it, I am going back. Here are my dislikes:
-- Tabs on top? OK, but I prefer mine the old way. Apple gives me no choice.
-- Tab width changes depending on how many you have? I hate this.
-- "+" button for adding favorites? I don't need or like this. I can add a favorite through the menu just fine and this button is just clutter. Apple gives no choice to remove it.
-- No button to stopping or reloading a page? I use this all the time. It's not available in Safari 4.
-- "+" button for adding a new tab. I don't need or want this. This is minor, but I would like to be able to turn it off. Apple gives me no choices.
-- In short, the "Preferences" are pretty much "Apple's way" or "Apples way".
I like it for the most part other than these few irritants. Maybe it's faster, but I couldn't notice it. All the "new" features are fine but just eye candy for me. I can live without them. If only they would have added these new features and given the user the choice on the rest. Oh, well.
I did have a few pages that refused to render correctly. They wouldn't wrap at the end of the sentence, but I suspect this will be ironed out.
My recommendation is to wait and watch this. That's what I plan to do.
I suspect lots of people will like this, but not me. I tried it and am going back to Safari 3. Some of the changes are nice. My problem is the absolute lack of choice for the user. While I can see some people preferring the new tabs, I hate them. It's just my personal preference. But with this, I have no choice. It's pretty much take it or leave it. After a couple hours with it, I am going back. Here are my dislikes:
-- Tabs on top? OK, but I prefer mine the old way. Apple gives me no choice.
-- Tab width changes depending on how many you have? I hate this.
-- "+" button for adding favorites? I don't need or like this. I can add a favorite through the menu just fine and this button is just clutter. Apple gives no choice to remove it.
-- No button to stopping or reloading a page? I use this all the time. It's not available in Safari 4.
-- "+" button for adding a new tab. I don't need or want this. This is minor, but I would like to be able to turn it off. Apple gives me no choices.
-- In short, the "Preferences" are pretty much "Apple's way" or "Apples way".
I like it for the most part other than these few irritants. Maybe it's faster, but I couldn't notice it. All the "new" features are fine but just eye candy for me. I can live without them. If only they would have added these new features and given the user the choice on the rest. Oh, well.
I did have a few pages that refused to render correctly. They wouldn't wrap at the end of the sentence, but I suspect this will be ironed out.
My recommendation is to wait and watch this. That's what I plan to do.
I like the new Safari, much snappier
Only problem is that it broke Mail for me. I uninstalled it and Mail worked again, installed it one more time and again Mail broke. Don't know why it's happening. I'll try repairing permissions when I get near a power plug and see if that works.
Only problem is that it broke Mail for me. I uninstalled it and Mail worked again, installed it one more time and again Mail broke. Don't know why it's happening. I'll try repairing permissions when I get near a power plug and see if that works.
hotmail e-mail will not open after downloading safari 4
As soon as I downloaded safari 4 and went to my hotmail account, I found I could not open any of my e-mails. I went to Firefox and opened hotmail and that let me open my hotmail e-mails. But I still cannot open hotmail e-mails on safari. Anyone else having this problem? Please e-mail me if you have an answer.
Mike Ruggeri
michaelruggeri@mac.com
As soon as I downloaded safari 4 and went to my hotmail account, I found I could not open any of my e-mails. I went to Firefox and opened hotmail and that let me open my hotmail e-mails. But I still cannot open hotmail e-mails on safari. Anyone else having this problem? Please e-mail me if you have an answer.
Mike Ruggeri
michaelruggeri@mac.com
Websites still load extremely slow, and the java sites giving me issues...still give me issues. (im on 312k line)
Top list, or whatever, has crashed Safari 4 times.
Also, the list seems random, in that it deletes, and changes the position of the sites I put in there...buggy, this is not a feature. (Ive submitted a report.)
So, from what I have experienced, its pretty much what it claims to be...beta.
Interesting for sure, but not stable on my g4 powerbook 667 mhz with slow internet connection.
Peace
dAlen
Ahhh, I wondered who was the last eWorld user still online. Turn off the lights on your way out please.
Wow, this is the best browser I've used yet, and I've played with a LOT of browsers. Great beta and noticeably faster.
I suspect lots of people will like this, but not me. I tried it and am going back to Safari 3. Some of the changes are nice. My problem is the absolute lack of choice for the user. While I can see some people preferring the new tabs, I hate them. It's just my personal preference. But with this, I have no choice. It's pretty much take it or leave it. After a couple hours with it, I am going back. Here are my dislikes:
-- Tabs on top? OK, but I prefer mine the old way. Apple gives me no choice.
-- Tab width changes depending on how many you have? I hate this.
-- "+" button for adding favorites? I don't need or like this. I can add a favorite through the menu just fine and this button is just clutter. Apple gives no choice to remove it.
-- No button to stopping or reloading a page? I use this all the time. It's not available in Safari 4.
-- "+" button for adding a new tab. I don't need or want this. This is minor, but I would like to be able to turn it off. Apple gives me no choices.
-- In short, the "Preferences" are pretty much "Apple's way" or "Apples way".
I like it for the most part other than these few irritants. Maybe it's faster, but I couldn't notice it. All the "new" features are fine but just eye candy for me. I can live without them. If only they would have added these new features and given the user the choice on the rest. Oh, well.
I did have a few pages that refused to render correctly. They wouldn't wrap at the end of the sentence, but I suspect this will be ironed out.
My recommendation is to wait and watch this. That's what I plan to do.
If you read through the posts on this thread, you'll find solutions to all of those issues (I'm running Safari 4 with the tabs where they were in Safari 3 and it's much better!)
Why TF did they ditch the blue loading status bar??? It's clearly better than some hardly noticeable spinning circle.
You talking to me?
Does it really matter if you can see how much of a site has loaded? There are tons of elements that are actually loading on a site, and a one dimensional (it only goes one direction, the image is 2D, don't worry I'm aware) can't convey all that info. I think the spinny icon is slicker and makes more sense.
PS: Why would you want it noticeable? It's just distracting, when you should be looking at a site, not if it's 40% vs 50% loaded.
--TF Jimmy
