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Thanks. Being a developer, I can make that judgement. At least for myself.

The developer tools in Safari are much better designed than any Firefox plug in I have tried. There are lots of little, thoughtful details that will make debugging a lot easier. I really like that you can quickly turn on and off bits of css for an element.


btw ... Is there a keyboard shortcut for Selecting an Element to inspect (the little magnifying glass in the toolbar at the bottom of the screen)?
 
Javascript is definitely borked in the latest release. None of the window popups work after you hvae more than one tab.
 
Sam problem

The tabs may drive me crazy or I may learn to love them but one thing is certain I cannot get Google Docs to load!

Is anyone else having this problem? I use Google Docs a lot and was really hoping S4 would IMPROVE compatibility but instead going to Google Docs I just get a completely blank page. Gmail works, Analytics works, but no gDocs.

Any suggestions?

I am having the same problem...if you have any luck fixing this, please post.

Thanks
 
Possible GMail fix

+1 for gmail issues. my google apps/work account is working, but gmail itself gets stuck on a blank page - apart from that great browser.

any ideas on getting gmail unstuck for safari 4?

I was running into this problem with Safari 3, haven't encountered it with the beta yet. However, I was able to fix the problem by deleting all cookies that begin with GMAIL_STAT_ and then reloading the page.

Just go into "preferences -> security -> show cookies" search for "GMAIL_STAT" and the select all and delete them. Normally there are only one or two of those, but when it gets stuck there are 10s of them.

Can folks try this out and report back?
 
Can Anyone help me out really quickly??

I am a mac fan but by no means a computer wiz ..

I just installed Safari 4 and want to make some the adjustments (e.g. move my tabs and restore my status bar). Could someone please give me a step by step of how to do it?? Most Appreciated :)
 
and zoom in and out on the trackpad is UBER-sensitive now - unusable.

Yeah I have the same problem. I love the full screen zoom but I now have to press Cmd and +/-/0. Multitouch for zoom is totally unusable now. I reported this problem to apple. Hopefully they fix it in the final release.

Another thing I like to add: The tabs at the top took a bit of time to get used to but now I prefer this way. I really like the look of it. Especially how the gradients look on the selected tab (especially on the first tab).

when viewing the history or bookmarks, how do you view in cover flow mode. I am on a winXP

The history/bookmarks should be already in coverflow mode. Are you sure you are using Safari 4?
 
Can Anyone help me out really quickly??

I am a mac fan but by no means a computer wiz ..

I just installed Safari 4 and want to make some the adjustments (e.g. move my tabs and restore my status bar). Could someone please give me a step by step of how to do it?? Most Appreciated :)



Copy each of these commands in Terminal.app. Press enter after each one.

defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4IncludeToolbarRedesign -bool NO

defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4LoadProgressStyle -bool NO

defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4TabBarIsOnTop -bool NO
 
I just installed Safari 4 and want to make some the adjustments (e.g. move my tabs and restore my status bar). Could someone please give me a step by step of how to do it?? Most Appreciated :)
You move tabs by clicking on the top-right corner (with the little lines) and dragging them around. You restore the status bar via View > Show Status Bar.
 
Uninstalled 4.

Couldn't delete messages in my Hotmail inbox.

Couldn't watch videos on CNN.

Couldn't open any of my bookmarks that were in folders.

This browser isn't ready. And no... that's NOT why they call it Beta. This is Alpha. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah I have the same problem. I love the full screen zoom but I now have to press Cmd and +/-/0. Multitouch for zoom is totally unusable now. I reported this problem to apple. Hopefully they fix it in the final release.

Another thing I like to add: The tabs at the top took a bit of time to get used to but now I prefer this way. I really like the look of it. Especially how the gradients look on the selected tab (especially on the first tab).



The history/bookmarks should be already in coverflow mode. Are you sure you are using Safari 4?

yes I am
 
Uninstalled 4.

Couldn't delete messages in my Hotmail inbox.

Couldn't watch videos on CNN.

Couldn't open any of my bookmarks that were in folders.

This browser isn't ready. And no... that's NOT why they call it Beta. This is Alpha. :rolleyes:

Meh, besides the Hotmail issue that everyone is having I think some of the rest of your issues are "your" issues. S4 has made no affect on my Mail.app or any other app on both my iMac and Macbook Air and I have no issues playing CNN videos. No issues with Bookmarks either.
 
i downloaded it but everytime I tyry to open it it wont open and it says the application quit unexpectedly then when I click to generate a report this is what the report says
rocess: Safari [520]
Path: /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari
Identifier: com.apple.Safari
Version: 4 Public Beta (5528.16)
Build Info: WebBrowser-55281600~1
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [232]

Date/Time: 2009-02-25 19:11:56.689 -0600
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.6 (9G55)
Report Version: 6

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000020
Crashed Thread: 0
it keeps doing that safari 3 worked fine is there a setting or something I need to change to be able to use it.
 
Resolution Independence!!

Resolution Independence!! Zooming with (Command +) renders pages using Resolution Independence - zooming in maintains integrity and sharpness of fonts. Safari 4 amazingly fast, BTW - well beyond snappy!!
 
Resolution Independence!! Zooming with (Command +) renders pages using Resolution Independence - zooming in maintains integrity and sharpness of fonts. Safari 4 amazingly fast, BTW - well beyond snappy!!

It's not resolution independence as far as I can tell. It just looks like some bicubic image resizing along with proportional font scaling. Opera has been doing it for years. If it were resolution independence text wouldn't scale within frames while the frames remained the same size - the whole lot would scale proportionately. Zoom in on this page now and you'll notice the frame width remains constant as the text gets bigger. I think a lot of it depends on the CSS implementation of the site in question. With this site, for example, you'll notice when you zoom that the relationship between the text area of a post and the area that contains the poster's details changes, and it changes for the worse, with the text area growing smaller and the user area growing uselessly larger.
 
It's not resolution independence as far as I can tell. It just looks like some bicubic image resizing along with proportional font scaling. Opera has been doing it for years. If it were resolution independence text wouldn't scale within frames while the frames remained the same size - the whole lot would scale proportionately. Zoom in on this page now and you'll notice the frame width remains constant as the text gets bigger. I think a lot of it depends on the CSS implementation of the site in question. With this site, for example, you'll notice when you zoom that the relationship between the text area of a post and the area that contains the poster's details changes, and it changes for the worse, with the text area growing smaller and the user area growing uselessly larger.

Actually, I do not have that experience. When I zoom in on this page, unlike with Safari 3 and Firefox, the frame width does expand to accommodate the growth of text size. While reverse zooming, the user space decreases accordingly. RI or not, this is a welcome improvement.
 
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