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I don't think the 2013 MacPro was a mistake as a Mac. It was a mistake as a replacement to the older MacPro, but it could have been a great Mac if it was designed as a mid-range Mac, below the tower-based, modular MacPro. I love the quietness of my Macs, and having a Mac more powerful than the Mini but less than the MacPro would have been a great Mac, because it's a design with a single fan. But replacing the modular MacPro with it was a mistake.

Of course a mid-range Mac is out of Apple interests, because it would compete directly with the iMac, and Apple wishes to sell a lot of iMacs (AIO machine, all components even the display in the same enclosure, so if any component fails you can easily convince the customer to buy a new Mac... that means more income for Apple).
 
Apple devices cost enough that you have to consider the tradeoffs. Only when they ship the "re-imagined" Pro will you be able to consider the tradeoffs between that and the "not-yet-shipped" iMac. The same decision tree cascades down through the line, so what this means for me is, no new devices until a year from now. Which i'm kind of okay with. It's hard to believe they're not farther along on the Mac Pro redesign, they are languaging like this is a sudden realization, that the Mac Pro isn't expandable.
 
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Apple is the Donald Trump of the computer industry. Something great will replace these pros! I promise you! Bigly great replace etc etc.
 
I wonder if this is connected to Stringer announcing his departure yesterday. It could be as simple as trying to bury the news, but it also could be a repeat of the Forstall saga. Timing seems conspicuous, I bet there's more there.

Apples upgrade cycle used to be so predictable, I know this seems "out of character" for Apple, but they've been "out of character" for years, I welcome anything that might put them back on track. Thank you Phil for doing this...please deliver on these promises (and do it again soon for the MacBook Pro, gosh that thing blows.)
 
Now that many working pros have been forced to abandon the platform...

It's amazing how poorly run the apple of 2017 is. And yet the stock is near all time high. Go figure.
 
Sales must have tanked. Only reason they would come out with this. Still, seems like you have to wait another year to even see what the replacement is.


I'm looking forward to all the ridiculous interpretations of what modular means getting reposted ad infinitum.

Wasn't the current one supposed to be modular via thunderbolt?
 
Translation. Apple pro fans please wait one more year, we promise to take care of you with magically amazing products.
 
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I don't believe a damn thing that comes from Apple about change...change for the better...or more change in their pocket.

Some of us will simply go on knowing Apple is now just another company and if they get it right this time around, well that's nice but don't care anymore.
 
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The modern G4 Cube.

Still, they've accepted the design decisions they made didn't pan out and they're moving to a more expandable architecture going forward.
The cube wasn't pointless. It was a mini before it's time but probably should have been a higher clocked G3 at a much lower price. Sort of like the IIsi or LCIII compared to the ci or fx.

The current Pro is different. It's doing what no Pro asked for: putting the most powerful and expensive machine in a small, odd shaped package that isn't expandable, rackable or stackable.
 
Standard operating procedure for MacRumors - post the positive article about Mac updates and new Mac hardware, then follow it up with this article putting a antagonistic spin on the news by extracting all the negatives that can be found. Yet both of these news posts are based on the same source. Stirring up the anti-Apple comments generates the almighty "click" that seems to be the guiding principle in journalism nowadays.
 
Of course a mid-range Mac is out of Apple interests, because it would compete directly with the iMac

I think that assumption may need questioning. It dates from a time when desktop PCs were popular with mass consumers and Apple's goal was to steal marketshare from Windows.

Now, most of the mass consumers want ultrabooks or all-in-ones, and headless desktops are for people who need the computing equivalent of a pick-up truck.

As they said in the press conference: software development (or at least the sort of power user who downloads Xcode) are a growing market, which shouldn't be surprising because MacOS's combination of a Unix-like environment and polished GUI applications (including Office and Adobe CS should you need them) is the absolute sweet-spot for modern webapp development. What you don't need for a lot of software development, though, is a $4000 3D/Video workstation Xeon, ECC RAM and multiple OpenCL-optimised GPUs - but you probably do want a versatile machine with good connectivity and half-decent single GPU (if only for multi-display support).
 
"Can't innovate anymore my ass" (except I think we designed ourselves into a bit of a thermal corner, if you will)

And purposely at that - they wanted people to buy new computers every 2 to 3 years not upgrade them!

I'm glad they have received massive back-lash these past few years for 'screwing with' the Mac.

I am sending my £3,000 2016 MBP/TB back because it can't even play 4K h.265 files.
 
Apple doubling down on security........... come on in journalists, hers what we have planned for the next 2 or 3 years....

I'll believe it ONLY when I see it! Because between now and then, they can scrap any 'project' they have going...

So I find this to be cautious good news for Pros, would of been nice if they dropped to flipping ridiculous price of the current model too!
 
A lot of hate for Schiller's "Can't innovate, my ass". What they did was innovative. It just wasn't what part of the market wanted. The product still sold and people still wanted an update.

Some people said Apple was done for when they screwed up MobileMe (design flaw) under Steve Jobs... they are still around.

Some people said Apple was done for when they had Antenna Gate (design flaw) under Steve Jobs... they are still around.

Admitting that your product design (although not technically flawed and doesn't require a recall) needs tweaking to support a long term strategy under Tim Cook... Apple is done fo... Wait, I've heard that story before.

I guess people need a reason to hate Apple or just be angry about something.
 
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