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No what the European Union are saying is more likely this
As apple make the operating system it is deliberately giving its own products an advantage over the competition not on a hardware position
But a software position that not competitors will ever have the ability to achieve because it’s impossible
That's an arbitrary distinction.

Each point I gave "deliberately give yourself an unfair advantage over the competitors". But now it's only exclusive to operating systems.

Ok. Sony developed their own operating system for the Playstation. Does this mean Microsoft should be able to build software and install it on people's Playstations without approval by Sony? Because currently Sony must approve all software that gets installed.
 
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EU gave us annoying cookie pop-ups by the way. I'm going to wager that majority of the people didn't like that.
Cookie pop-ups in itself are not great, but the fact that I can chose to allow or not cookies to be stored is a power to the user. If you on one hand praise Apple for privacy because they keep it for themselves for potential later use, you can't ignore the power we get from cookie pop-ups. I also believe that they will need to have a single button with refuse all in the near future.
 
Well, in that case Apple will lose customers because of petty restrictions.
I suspect Apple won't actually lose significant numbers of customers, because the percentage of customers who care about this is minuscule, and Apple's European users will just get worse features thanks to their government, which doesn't care about end users and can't think through the consequence of their regulations.
 
Cookie pop-ups in itself are not great, but the fact that I can chose to allow or not cookies to be stored is a power to the user.
The correct way to implement this "power" is to require all major browsers (just like how EU designates companies as "gatekeepers") to support a native cookie popup dialog so that users can change it in settings "Yes, accept all the damned cookies from now on automatically". We have native dialog boxes for location, camera, and mic permissions, but somehow cookie isn't part of that.

EU failed to understand this and completely botched this "power". If they dropped the ball on this, it does not give me confidence that EU can make reasonable laws for other tech issues.
 
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I suspect Apple won't actually lose significant numbers of customers, because the percentage of customers who care about this is minuscule, and Apple's European users will just get worse features thanks to their government, which doesn't care about end users and can't think through the consequence of their regulations.
If that is the case, the only one not caring for the end user is Apple. The EU is not responsible for Apple not willing to comply with the law, and arbitrarily limiting features in Europe.
 
The correct way to implement this "power" is to require all major browsers (just like how EU designates companies as "gatekeepers") to support a native cookie popup dialog so that users can change it in settings "Yes, accept all the damned cookies from now on automatically". We have native dialog boxes for location, camera, and mic permissions, but somehow cookie isn't part of that.

EU failed to understand this and completely botched this "power". If they dropped the ball on this, it does not give me confidence that EU can make reasonable laws for other tech issues.
At least they did something and can and will improve on this. You can use Firefox with Ublock and block most of the pop-ups. I think there is also an extention explicitly doing what you are saying.

EU did not fail, they succeeded, but did not fully considered the consequences of not setting some clearer requirements for its implementation. In all, it has allowed for users to block cookies for the benefit of user privacy.
 
At least they did something

Sorry, that something is, so far, have been a net negative to the entire world.

The amount of engineering/design hours lost to implementing a cookie popup box is probably in a tens of millions of hours annually. And the amount of human life lost in dealing with clicking the box to dismiss (which by the way, keeps re-appearing for each site every couple of weeks for me) is probably several million human years lost annually or essentially killing 90k humans every year based on average lifespan of 80 years.

The world would have been better off had EU did nothing until they figured out a good solution.
 
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Sorry, that something is, so far, have been a net negative to the entire world.
Only if you can't comprehend what the benefits are, which is privacy. Apparently you only care about privacy when it is AppleSpeak...
The amount of engineering/design hours lost to implementing a cookie popup box is probably in a cumulative hundreds of thousands of hours lost.
There are all sorts of easy tmeplates/implementations for this.
And the amount of human life lost in dealing with clicking the box to dismiss (which by the way, keeps re-appearing for each site every couple of weeks for me) is probably several million human years lost.
Better to lose some time on clicking, than cookies to a website.
 
Only if you can't comprehend what the benefits are, which is privacy.

Lol, the majority of the world click "accept all" btw. It sounds like you'll defend EU even if their decisions are objectively bad.

There are all sorts of easy tmeplates/implementations for this.

90% of all cookie popups I've seen has been stylized differently. Even if all websites used the same template, there's a QA process among big companies to make sure they're compliant. Some companies even run it through lawyers.

But most don't use the same template so that point is moot.

Better to lose some time on clicking, than cookies to a website.

For you. I'm willing to bet you don't even bother clicking through the sub menus to find the "accept only essential cookies" button every time and instead, click the accept all when it's too difficult to find that other button.
 
At least they did something and can and will improve on this. You can use Firefox with Ublock and block most of the pop-ups. I think there is also an extention explicitly doing what you are saying.
Gold star for trying? They clearly dropped the ball. As evidenced by the fact that you suggest using software to block the notices because most people find them annoying.

EU did not fail, they succeeded, but did not fully considered the consequences of not setting some clearer requirements for its implementation. In all, it has allowed for users to block cookies for the benefit of user privacy.
But the implementation is the whole point! Cookie notices are a perfect analogy for how the DMA gets things wrong. The commission does not have the skills to get the implementation right. The high level goals of the DMA are great!
 
Lol, the majority of the world click "accept all" btw. It sounds like you'll defend EU even if their decisions are objectively bad.
Which is a concern, and needs development, not dissolution.
90% of all cookie popups I've seen has been stylized differently. Even if all websites used the same template, there's a QA process among big companies to make sure they're compliant. Some companies even run it through lawyers.

But most don't use the same template so that point is moot.
Well, we experience something completely different then.
For you. I'm willing to bet you don't even bother clicking through the sub menus to find the "accept only essential cookies" button every time and instead, click the accept all when it's too difficult to find that other button.
It will cost you money then.
 
Gold star for trying? They clearly dropped the ball. As evidenced by the fact that you suggest using software to block the notices because most people find them annoying.
I never said they should not improve on it. But I am happy it is there, because I actually care for my privacy.
But the implementation is the whole point! Cookie notices are a perfect analogy for how the DMA gets things wrong. The commission does not have the skills to get the implementation right. The high level goals of the DMA are great!
You may believe so.
 
Which is a concern, and needs development, not dissolution.
It's been almost 15 years without improvement. The solution has been obvious the whole time. Scrap the directive and put the responsibility on the browser makers instead of individual websites.
 
That's an arbitrary distinction.

Each point I gave "deliberately give yourself an unfair advantage over the competitors". But now it's only exclusive to operating systems.

Ok. Sony developed their own operating system for the Playstation. Does this mean Microsoft should be able to build software and install it on people's Playstations without approval by Sony? Because currently Sony must approve all software that gets installed.
What are you on about?
It’s about the fact that apple being the makers of the operating system are deliberately giving their products advantage over the competition not by hardware
But with software that nobody else can use so that is deliberately giving them advantage over the competition because then it makes it a selling point to entice people to purchase their products over everyone else’s
 
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Which is a concern, and needs development, not dissolution.
Which backfired. Because people who have never heard of cookies will mindlessly click accept all. Then when the next big Chrome update asks the user for the last time "do you want us to accept all cookies for you?" people will click yes via muscle memory.
Well, we experience something completely different then.
doesn't change the fact that many hours were lost in implementing the popup.

It will cost you money then.
uh nope.
 
It's been almost 15 years without improvement. The solution has been obvious the whole time. Scrap the directive and put the responsibility on the browser makers instead of individual websites.
I believe there has been several cases over the time, and currently I think in Germany the wall shall include a refuse all button.
 
What are you on about?
It’s about the fact that apple being the makers of the operating system are deliberately giving their products advantage over the competition not by hardware
Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony have been doing this for over a decade with their consoles and no one seemed to care until Apple did it.
 
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