So did I. No one who watched that demo was a regular person. Minority Report was the most exposure regular people had to multitouch, but I don't think they used the term in that movie.
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I tried to cover that in the "whatever" category.
I couldn't be bothered typing out the whole alphabet. 🙂
Do not say “among the small circle using the product”, this is Spatial remember, it should be more like ‘Transcending the Vastness of Apple Vision Pro‘s Sphere of Experiencers!’
I know what multitouch means, but have to admit when I go out for a beer with my buds we rarely discuss device interfaces and so it just doesnt come up in conversation often.
But when I read the term, it immediately puts me in the context of learning about a device interface and that is very useful. And its a lot easier and quicker to read than something perhaps a bit less marketing speak, something like, 'an operating technique for your device that involves the manipulation of one, two, or sometimes three of your distal phalanges in a variety of different controlled movements, often across a planar surface such that contact is maintained, such that you can elicit different responses or preprogrammed actions by your device'
yeah sorry, I like multitouch. And spatial computing.
People like using easier/simpler technology terms which is why we all say "WiFi" instead of "IEEE 802.11 Wireless Networking".
Exactly and spot-on. Why spend so much time craving to be cynical and unhappy? I don't get it.
Well said! 👏🏻
I'm not sure why the internet wants to be so negative (I'm guilty, too, and on this site). In person, I'm a pretty positive and happy person.
Negativity was one of the reasons I quit Reddit a couple years ago, and I've considered leaving this site too for the same reasons.
Wel, yeah, it is in fact a mixed realty headset, clearly. But Apple’s emphasis on mixed reality is more towards the spacial computing aspect within it which is why they prefer others think of it as such. It doesn’t matter what you or I think, it’s Apple’s device, and they’re focusing on the general computing capabilities of it.
So we’re all free to call it whatever we want, Apple just wants developers stick to the game plan, and you can’t really blame them for wanting that. They don’t want it pigeon-holed into just a “VR” device, which is exactly what we’re seeing on this board in some of these posts, because there’s a connotation with “VR” that immediately brings up thoughts of a gaming toy…. which is basically all the mainstream thinks of these headsets so far.
You know originally they hated the term mobile phone and didn't want the iPhone to be called that, but eventually reluctantly started calling it a mobile phone too
This site is just as guilty. Every thread about it has been people that want to discuss nothing but games, movies and porn..
I don't think that the majority of people care much about a (supposedly) new computing paradigm, despite Apple trying to direct the conversation. They can direct developers, but the populace will do as it pleases.
Well I am glad you stayed. I don't always agree with you, but find your opinions to be well informed and hence I learn from considering your POV. People are different with different needs I am an early adopter, you are not. So it's natural our choices are different, but by considering yours it helps me with my own decisions. Thanks.
Do they? I mean, really call the iPhone a 'mobile phone?' I am sure somewhere in the hundreds of thousands of pages of iPhone documentation over the years they must use the phrase mobile phone somewhere, but I just wasted 10 minutes trying to find an instance of it on their web site.
So yeah, if they do, it's an outlier and maybe 0.1% of the time, which doesn't exactly make your case.
“No one” heard of the GUI before the Mac.
Only geeks walked around with MP3 players until the iPod + iTunes
Smartphones were “business” phones until the iPhone
“VR” headsets are just for gaming, until ???
You’re absolutely correct, A large majority of people just don’t care, at least until something comes along that piques their interest and changes their minds; Apple has huge successes bringing “new” to the populace.
Every single one of those made sense to me when announced. I might not have thought the first version was worth the price, but I could see how each one could be useful to me and I eventually ended up owning later, more mature versions of each (clickwheel iPod, iPhone 3G, iPad 4, AW2, APP). I'm not getting the same feeling from AVP (not to be confused with the beach volleyball org) so I am still skeptical of the usefulness of this product. Time will tell if there's a killer app or a better version of this product that makes it a must have device for many people.
Just call it WhateveR. The proper capitalization and all
I’ll go back and finish my coffee now.
While true, there might be an limit to how interesting this will be to the general public. Some things are niche, and they stay niche.
Not because the company failed to do anything, but because there can be an actual ceiling of the percentage of people that this would provide benefit to. My feelings are the VR/AR usefulness has a natural ceiling outside of entertainment.
The difference between VR and Apple Vision Pro is that while they're mostly the same thing on the hardware level, you'll still need to buy two separate extremely expensive devices if you want to experience all 9 "VR" things the world currently has to offer.
Let's say you want to exprience VR games like Half-Life: Alyx. Well you can do that with any VR headset except the Apple Vision Pro. Let's say you want to do spacial computing, you can do that with Apple Vision Pro, but none of the other VR headsets in existence.
It's like buying a monitor that can only do text editing, and another monitor that can only do gaming. They'd be the same monitor, but a software limitation would prevent you from using one monitor for both things.
Or like having to buy two identical cars, one for going to restaurants, and one for going to bowling alleys. There would be no reason one couldn't do both, but the brand that makes bowling alleys would only let you use their car to get there. And they'd prevent you from using it to get elsewhere.
Or like having to own two separate smartphones. One for making calls, and one for receiving them. I mean they can both do both, but they won't let you.
Let's say you want to exprience VR games like Half-Life: Alyx. Well you can do that with any VR headset except the Apple Vision Pro. Let's say you want to do spacial computing, you can do that with Apple Vision Pro, but none of the other VR headsets in existence.
It's like buying a monitor that can only do text editing, and another monitor that can only do gaming. They'd be the same monitor, but a software limitation would prevent you from using one monitor for both things.
Or like having to buy two identical cars, one for going to restaurants, and one for going to bowling alleys. There would be no reason one couldn't do both, but the brand that makes bowling alleys would only let you use their car to get there. And they'd prevent you from using it to get elsewhere.
Or like having to own two separate smartphones. One for making calls, and one for receiving them. I mean they can both do both, but they won't let you.
The first rule of VR is you don't talk about VR.
I’m gonna go with facial computing.Can developers use augmented computing, virtual computing, extended computing, or mixed computing?
Hopefully someone turns their AVP into an Alien face hugger cosplay device.
The push to make the term Spatial computing a thing makes perfect sense to me
VR is about immersing yourself in a completely different world
AR is closer to what Apple vision is, but it usually implies “enhancing” the reality around you by overlaying computer generated imagery on top of real life object and places - usually to help process a real world scenario into useful data (measuring a room, for example)
Spatial Computing is more about using the real world as a canvas for traditional computing tasks, allowing apps that are usually confined to screens to have volume and also to surround yourself with different views that you can switch around at a glance instead of moving windows around with your monitor
Every time someone attempts something new there’s always this push to either claim it’s nothing special and it’s been done before or dismiss it outright, but I think at least on paper Apple has a good idea here
Only time will tell wether they’re successful or not
VR is about immersing yourself in a completely different world
AR is closer to what Apple vision is, but it usually implies “enhancing” the reality around you by overlaying computer generated imagery on top of real life object and places - usually to help process a real world scenario into useful data (measuring a room, for example)
Spatial Computing is more about using the real world as a canvas for traditional computing tasks, allowing apps that are usually confined to screens to have volume and also to surround yourself with different views that you can switch around at a glance instead of moving windows around with your monitor
Every time someone attempts something new there’s always this push to either claim it’s nothing special and it’s been done before or dismiss it outright, but I think at least on paper Apple has a good idea here
Only time will tell wether they’re successful or not