Apple Awarded 'Anti-Sexting' Patent

[wazgilbert]

To quote Brian Griffin;

"I want to wham my oingo boingo into your velvet underground"

censoring words is one thing, but ideas and meaning is really another matter altogether.

 

[apple1990]

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[3583582]

Can someone please explain why there's all this fuss about teenagers *gasp* swearing? Do you think that your kids are going to start using the f word in their English essays or something?...

It's younger people than teenagers too. But it's not really a problem that they swear (somtimes). That's okay, I don't mind it. However, it is a problem if they use it too much, or if they use certain words that they shouldn't. I want to raise my kids to be good people that know how to communicate properly and behave in a good way at all times.

I can teach them how to speak properly, but I can't teach them how to behave when using technology properly without reading their stuff (because in order to teach them in a good way, I need to know how they behave right now) which I don't want to do (major breach of privacy), so if I can be given the tools to notice if they abuse bad language, of course that is a good thing.

 

[0dev]

1) This won't stop sending pictures
2) Censorship is bad
3) I can write a script to get rid of this in 20 minutes tops, added to Cydia it'll render this feature useless as teenagers rush to free themselves from this crap

I feel sorry for any kids who's parents impose stupid restrictions and monitoring policies on their personal devices, BTW.

 

[Brocc]

I like this idea. I think it perfectly complements my patented larynx implant that allows parents to censor oral expletives directly at the source and replace them with more wholesome approximations such as "Darn it", "Sheesh", "Crikey" and "Fiddlesticks".

 

[3583582]

1) This won't stop sending pictures

No, but until we have good image evaluation software it'll have to do. I believe that you can already turn of MMS in parental control however.

2) Censorship is bad

Moral censorship, especially for children, is already well spread and perfectly acceptable. Even necessary.

3) I can write a script to get rid of this in 20 minutes tops, added to Cydia it'll render this feature useless as teenagers rush to free themselves from this crap

That's where this patent comes in: https://www.macrumors.com/2010/08/23/apple-patent-application-on-detecting-unauthorized-ios-device-usage-causes-controversy/

I feel sorry for any kids who's parents use this BS, BTW.

Yeah, I totally feel sorry for children with people that tries to raise them to be good people without breaching their privacy too.

 

[GroundLoop]

I feel sorry for any kids who's parents impose stupid restrictions and monitoring policies on their personal devices, BTW.

As a parent, I simply won't let my kids have an iPhone or any phone with a camera. Let them text whatever they want, but kids are too stupid to realize that sending out nudie pics of themselves is a terrible idea. Sure they can always use a friend's phone, but I will not provide the tools to enable that type of activity. The rest comes down to me and my wife passing on our morals to our children.

GL

 

[karlwig]

Personally I would love this if I had kids. I don't want to read their SMSs, but I'd love to be notified if they use certain words excessively so that I can have a talk about it with them without breaking their privacy (too much).

Yes, lovely to be able to invade their personal life by peaking at the text messages they send without their consent -- but without breaking their pricacy too much, of course!

Any parents who would actually do this, should not be trusted by their children, and they deserve everything thats coming to them.

This is NOT a feature that "helps" the children. Its a feature that makes stupid parents feel good about themselves, because it gives them a false sense of being protective.

 

[karlwig]

Kids need nannies because kids have been known to make bad decisions.

But this is not about bad decisions. Its about communication, the personal way of expression, and it should be about letting your kids express themselves to their friends without being afraid that parents are watching behind their back.

American parents are so paranoid of everything. Its sad really.

 

[Ciclismo]

While I agree that most people's grammar sucks (though I don't know whether or not this is a relatively new trend), I don't think trying to have people use better English in texts is the way to solve it. Try improving English courses in schools. And some people are just naturally better at language than others; you can't really fix that.

I did say ALL the time - so for all electronic text entry. It would also stop the "there", "their" and "they're" as well as the "off" and "of" confusions (just to pick on a few specific examples).

 

[3583582]

Yes, lovely to be able to invade their personal life by peaking at the text messages they send without their consent -- but without breaking their pricacy too much, of course!

Any parents who would actually do this, should not be trusted by their children, and they deserve everything thats coming to them.

This is NOT a feature that "helps" the children. Its a feature that makes stupid parents feel good about themselves, because it gives them a false sense of being protective.

Oh please. Its hardly to invade their privacy life to be alerted when they use certain language. This is actually a way to increase their privacy - right now if I want to know if they abuse this kind of language I have to read their messages, while this could simply alert me of that it has been used, without showing the content.

No, this is not a feature that will help children. It is however a feature that could help people to be better parents.

 

[da-vid]

Moral censorship, especially for children, is already well spread and perfectly acceptable. Even necessary.

"Moral censorship" is what creates homophobes, racists, sexists, etc.

When you teach your child that something is bad, you're basically brainwashing them.

For example, a religious person teaches their child that gay people are bad. They grow up hating gay people. Moral censorship? Yes. Because "moral" is totally subjective.

Is it "acceptable"? Yeah, apparently, seeing how many Republicans there are in the US. But is it "necessary"? No...

 

[KJ500]

This is HILLARIOUS!

Personally I think sexting is kinda dopey but to each his own. The fact that Apple feel this is necessary is really funny.

Hopefully they will come to their senses and realize how ridiculous this is.

 

[da-vid]

I did say ALL the time - so for all electronic text entry. It would also stop the "there", "their" and "they're" as well as the "off" and "of" confusions (just to pick on a few specific examples).

That's just absurd. People know the difference between IM/text-speak and proper English. Using both isn't going to blur the line. I use IM-speak when chatting on MSN or Facebook; it's not because my grammar sucks, but because it's a huge time saver. Besides, even when I'm using IM-speak, I still know the difference between homophones.

As I said, improve English classes; don't force people to use their best English in informal situations. Just continuously using your best English in every situation doesn't fix bad grammar; education does.

 

[*LTD*]

unless this feature is completely optional, i don't like it.

A newly-awarded Apple patent addressing parental controls for text-based communication

 

[ten-oak-druid]

Apple should give the rights to this patent to others no charge.

Nothing will hurt the sale of a company's device more than teen angst.

If teens want to send messages with certain language, and one product won't let them, well that product is going to do poorly with that demographic.

 

[0dev]

No, but until we have good image evaluation software it'll have to do. I believe that you can already turn of MMS in parental control however.

And it's easy to turn back on again by editing one little .plist file...

Moral censorship, especially for children, is already well spread and perfectly acceptable. Even necessary.

Any type of censorship for any reason is wrong. Plus, "moral" is very subjective.

That's where this patent comes in: https://www.macrumors.com/2010/08/23/apple-patent-application-on-detecting-unauthorized-ios-device-usage-causes-controversy/

Apple would come under MASSIVE fire if they used that to stop jailbreaking, espeically since it's now been ruled as legal. And not just from customers, either; but from trade regulators.

Not to mention how that system would be hacked just like every other security protocol Apple's put in place to stop jailbreaking.

Yeah, I totally feel sorry for children with people that tries to raise them to be good people without breaching their privacy too.

LOL. If I was having my phone tapped and censored, know what I'd do? I'd hack that s**t off of it, and even if I couldn't, I'd use another phone and keep it secret from my parents.

Trying to make your kids good by censoring what they see and say will never work. Not ever. In fact, if anything, it'll make them even more rebellious.

The type of parents doing this would most likely be looking through their kids' messages, too - how's that safeguarding privacy?

Not only that, but parents shouldn't be doing any of this in the first place. It's your job to educate your children, not monitor them like a crazed paranoid schizophrenic. It's alright to let them make their own mistakes, too. Just like you did when you were a kid.

 

[3583582]

"Moral censorship" is what creates homophobes, racists, sexists, etc.

When you teach your child that something is bad, you're basically brainwashing them.

For example, a religious person teaches their child that gay people are bad. They grow up hating gay people. Moral censorship? Yes. Because "moral" is totally subjective.

Is it "acceptable"? Yeah, apparently, seeing how many Republicans there are in the US. But is it "necessary"? No...

Yes, if course it can be bad too, but it is also basically the foundation that raising children are based on (and basically all of our society is based on). Do you mean that we shouldn't teach them not to steal, that child pornography is wrong, that you should not hurt other people etc etc?

 

[pmz]

It's younger people than teenagers too. But it's not really a problem that they swear (somtimes). That's okay, I don't mind it. However, it is a problem if they use it too much, or if they use certain words that they shouldn't. I want to raise my kids to be good people that know how to communicate properly and behave in a good way at all times.

I can teach them how to speak properly, but I can't teach them how to behave when using technology properly without reading their stuff (because in order to teach them in a good way, I need to know how they behave right now) which I don't want to do (major breach of privacy), so if I can be given the tools to notice if they abuse bad language, of course that is a good thing.

Wrong, your entire post reads, I want to control my children.


That's absolutely stupid. You want your children to make decisions for themselves. Sometimes, they make bad ones. But guess what happens? It leaves a lasting impact that changes behavior FOREVER. Flipping toggles on your kids phone pisses them off and confuses them...it does not teach them ANYTHING, other than that parents are ass-----.

 

[0dev]

Wrong, your entire post reads, I want to control my children.


That's absolutely stupid. You want your children to make decisions for themselves. Sometimes, they make bad ones. But guess what happens? It leaves a lasting impact that changes behavior FOREVER. Flipping toggles on your kids phone pisses them off and confuses them...it does not teach them ANYTHING, other than that parents are ass-----.

This. A million times over, this.

 

[pmz]

A newly-awarded Apple patent addressing parental controls for text-based communication

Typical from such an Apple rag like you, but what makes this outrage Ok because it'd slid in under the guise of parental controls?

Tyranny is still tyranny, even when it's only affecting your neighbor and not you. It's only a matter of time. Meanwhile, not only did you let it happen, you had a chance to speak out and you said it was Ok.

 

[wrkactjob]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone 4: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8B117 Safari/6531.22.7)

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Isn't there already software out there that could detect say for example a boys penis and automatically prevent such image from being sent? Possibly also an automatic alert to the necessary authorities could be administered.

Not so sure regarding automated vaginal recognition as the density of pubic hair could cause software error.

 

[pmz]

There's a big difference between knowing about the dirty world and being part of the dirty world. At least if you grow up without having a potty mouth, you might stand a chance of not being a total anus for the rest of your life.

The only thing I hate more than bad parents are people who are obsessed with blocking quote, unquote: "obscene language"

Far more important things in life mon, get over it.

 

[pmz]

Yes, if course it can be bad too, but it is also basically the foundation that raising children are based on (and basically all of our society is based on). Do you mean that we shouldn't teach them not to steal, that child pornography is wrong, that you should not hurt other people etc etc?

Really? Is that what you were taught? That the basic foundation of raising children is control control control, restrict, restrict restrict, no, no no?

Well, no wonder you treat your kids that way. God help you.

 

[bruinsrme]

And it's easy to turn back on again by editing one little .plist file...



Any type of censorship for any reason is wrong. Plus, "moral" is very subjective.



Apple would come under MASSIVE fire if they used that to stop jailbreaking, espeically since it's now bee ruled as legal. And not just from customers, either; but from trade regulators.



LOL. If I was having my phone tapped and censored, know what I'd do? I'd hack that s**t off of it, and even if I couldn't, I'd use another phone and keep it secret from my parents.

Trying to make your kids good by censoring what they see and say will never work. Not ever. In fact, if anything, it'll make them even more rebellious.

The type of parents doing this would most likely be looking through their kids' messages, too - how's that safeguarding privacy?

Not only that, but parents shouldn't be doing this in the first place. It's your job to educate your children, not monitor them like a crazed paranoid schizophrenic.

Make the tools available. Leave it up to the parent(s) to utilize them as they see fit.
Censorship, well if you want to call it that so be it.
Parents have the obligation to ensure their childs safety (responsibility).

Any type of monitoring tool can be used inappropriately just the same as it can avert a situation.

Our sons privacy in our house started when he son went to college. While he was in high school living under our roof his privacy was at our discretion. We probably knew more than we wanted to.

Of course I knew what websites he was frequenting, I knew to whom he was texting.
We had a unique situation. He started drawing naked women at the age of 14, yes he is in art school now.
With all that said, nothing is MORE VALUABLE as an open line of communication. I discussed with him what tools were in place and what we was monitoring.

If we are crazed parents, thank you for the compliment