Apple Awarded 'Anti-Sexting' Patent

[fabianjj]

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If i was à teen in america and my parents would use something like that, i would simply go to wal-Mart and get myself à cheap prepaid phone to use with My friends. Communication is private, i would not Allow Amy parent to control What i do or do not text. Just like if i would have kept a diary i would not let My parents know What it said, or if a friend Wanted to say something to me in confidence, and then a parent

 

[0dev]

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If i was à teen in america and my parents would use something like that, i would simply go to wal-Mart and get myself à cheap prepaid phone to use with My friends. Communication is private, i would not Allow Amy parent to control What i do or do not text. Just like if i would have kept a diary i would not let My parents know What it said, or if a friend

Exactly. And if you could remove the restrictions by jailbreaking your iPhone, you'd do that too, right?

 

[thetaylor13]

sew ef 3v3ry1 jst tlks n c0d3 th3r3 wood be n0 issew talkin bout pr0n or secks or m4sterbaiten right?

Filters out words that an admin supplies, basically a custom dictionary of "bad" words?

 

[da-vid]

I was responding to the quoted text that had nothing to do with the patent ......

As for the 2nd part. I suggest you go back to grade school and real learn how to read because clearly you can not read or your compression is pretty low.
I stated once they go off to college I would NO LONGER use it or look at it.

1. ??? Did I mention the patent, either?

2. Uh... do I even need to point out the irony?

Anyway, even disregarding your mixing of words, I never stated that you were going to spy on your kids' texts in college. I said that the fact you even mentioned it is ridiculous beyond words. You're not equating college with independence, as everyone else does. Instead, you're pretty much saying that you're going to voluntarily give up your spying ways once they hit college, but you could have perpetual control over your children if you wanted.

 

[Apple Freak]

Problem is, with as smart as some kids are these days, they'll figure out a way around it. Instead of texting, now they'll just call each other straight out, phone sex style.

I do think this is a good tool for parents to try and protect their kids though.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

1. ??? Did I mention the patent, either?

2. Uh... do I even need to point out the irony?

Anyway, even disregarding your mixing of words, I never stated that you were going to spy on your kids' texts in college. I said that the fact you even mentioned it is ridiculous beyond words. You're not equating college with independence, as everyone else does. Instead, you're pretty much saying that you're going to voluntarily give up your spying ways once they hit college, but you could have perpetual control over your children if you wanted.

Well collage != independent. Most kids in collage the parents still control the purse strings. Parents still pay for the phone bills. Hell parents still pay most of the bills.

Since they are on said family plan I would need to remove that ability. It just comes with the fact once they hit college they generally are not living at home but I would still control the purse strings.

 

[fabianjj]

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If i was à teen in america and my parents would use something like that, i would simply go to wal-Mart and get myself à cheap prepaid phone to use with My friends. Communication is private, i would not Allow Amy parent to control What i do or do not text. Just like if i would have kept a diary i would not let My parents know What it said, or if a friend

Exactly. And if you could remove the restrictions by jailbreaking your iPhone, you'd do that too, right?

Yes that might be a better solution.

 

[0dev]

sew ef 3v3ry1 jst tlks n c0d3 th3r3 wood be n0 issew talkin bout pr0n or secks or m4sterbaiten right?

Filters out words that an admin supplies, basically a custom dictionary of "bad" words?

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[swagi]

There's a big difference between knowing about the dirty world and being part of the dirty world. At least if you grow up without having a potty mouth, you might stand a chance of not being a total anus for the rest of your life.

I honestly believe that the real world Gordon Gekkos - i.e. those elitist bunch of dopeheads that let you work for their money - did not grow up with a potty mouth.

It tells the rest of the world that America is extraordinarily childish and immature when it comes to sexuality and that your nation really needs to grow up.

Let's put it in a nutshell: The United States are a country where nobody seems to have a problem with electrocution and throwing nuclear bombs on other countries, where religious insanity is as widespread as in any Muslim country that's run by extremists and where extreme violence is tolerated by the society while nudity on TV is condemned, but yet this country has the biggest porn industry on the planet and just doesn't get it that the rest of the world does not want to wear baseball hats and live under the same Disneyfied code of double-morale.

Apple filing for such a patent now only shows whose brainchild they are and that it's time to stop using their software.

*standing ovation*

 

[HLdan]

One thing about this thread, you certainly know who the adolescent/immature kids are just by their posts alone. Sad.

 

[hobo.hopkins]

It makes no difference who's controlling it, censorship is censorship.

Teenagers know a lot more than parents about technology, and as I already told you, it'd be trivial to set up a Cydia package to remove parental controls, which I think is enough of an incentive for a teenager to carry out the simple process of running a jailbreak on his or her iPhone.

You are so right. Because restrictions can be bypassed, they shouldn't even exist in the first place. Hell, we shouldn't try to stop bank robbers because they'll just find a way to continue robbing banks. We also shouldn't try to stop people from creating viruses, because they'll just find a way to continue.

Telling someone to stop swearing is not the same as shoving a system down their throats which prevents them from doing so at all.

As you acknowledged earlier but obviously didn't understand: this is an optional feature. Nothing is being shoved down anyone's throat. Blaming Apple for implementing optional software is just ridiculous. And if every teenager is so smart and jailbreaking is so easy, what's the problem? According to your logic, this software won't affect anybody.

 

[njj56]

all this just to stop brett favre? damn.....

 

[Smith288]

"Moral censorship" is what creates homophobes, racists, sexists, etc.

When you teach your child that something is bad, you're basically brainwashing them.

For example, a religious person teaches their child that gay people are bad. They grow up hating gay people. Moral censorship? Yes. Because "moral" is totally subjective.

Is it "acceptable"? Yeah, apparently, seeing how many Republicans there are in the US. But is it "necessary"? No...

Wow... Sweeping ignorant statements.

Did you know ALL democrats hate Christians, prefer us all to live in poverty and want all young woman to have at least one abortion to exercise their freedom of choice? Sound pretty stupid? Well so do you.

 

[SteveSparks]

"Moral censorship" is what creates homophobes, racists, sexists, etc.

When you teach your child that something is bad, you're basically brainwashing them.

For example, a religious person teaches their child that gay people are bad. They grow up hating gay people. Moral censorship? Yes. Because "moral" is totally subjective.

Is it "acceptable"? Yeah, apparently, seeing how many Republicans there are in the US. But is it "necessary"? No...

What if the child is using hate speech? Would you want a parent who feels that is morally wrong to correct that?

It works both ways. It's a tool and depends on how you use it.

 

[0dev]

You are so right. Because restrictions can be bypassed, they shouldn't even exist in the first place. Hell, we shouldn't try to stop bank robbers because they'll just find a way to continue robbing banks. We also shouldn't try to stop people from creating viruses, because they'll just find a way to continue.

That's hardly the same thing. Restrictions on speech != stopping people from robbing banks, first of all.

As you acknowledged earlier but obviously didn't understand: this is an optional feature. Nothing is being shoved down anyone's throat. Blaming Apple for implementing optional software is just ridiculous. And if every teenager is so smart and jailbreaking is so easy, what's the problem? According to your logic, this software won't affect anybody.

If the parents turn it on, the idea is that the teenagers don't have the option to turn it off.

Of course, in reality, it's extremely easy to hack this Orwellian crap off of the phone, so it isn't an issue at all - the only thing I have an issue with is the fact something like this even exists and that there are people actually advocating it.

 

[hobo.hopkins]

That's hardly the same thing. Restrictions on speech != stopping people from robbing banks, first of all.



If the parents turn it on, the idea is that the teenagers don't have the option to turn it off.

Of course, in reality, it's extremely easy to hack this Orwellian crap off of the phone, so it isn't an issue at all - the only thing I have an issue with is the fact something like this even exists and that there are people actually advocating it.

It's the same principle. You believe that if restrictions can be circumvented, they shouldn't exist in the first place. That's a terrible mentality.

And this doesn't exist. Just because a patent is awarded does not mean that censorship is taking place. The software has yet to be written or implemented. Furthermore, the parents that would choose to use this feature would already be utilising invasive techniques to parent their children. This doesn't change that.

 

[da-vid]

What if the child is using hate speech? Would you want a parent who feels that is morally wrong to correct that?

It works both ways. It's a tool and depends on how you use it.

The reason the child would be using hate speech in the first place would probably because of "moral censorship." As I said, "morality" is subjective.

Wow... Sweeping ignorant statements.

Did you know ALL democrats hate Christians, prefer us all to live in poverty and want all young woman to have at least one abortion to exercise their freedom of choice? Sound pretty stupid? Well so do you.

I didn't mean to imply that all Republicans are homophobic, racist, and sexist. I meant to imply that, in general, Republicans are the result of "moral censorship" where parents teach their children repeatedly that something is "wrong." Religious people, too, and therefore most Americans in general, including many democrats. But it's not coincidence that atheists tend to be liberal, or that the world as a whole, as it is getting less religious, is getting more liberal. Less moral censorship. More logic.

 

[0dev]

It's the same principle. You believe that if restrictions can be circumvented, they shouldn't exist in the first place. That's a terrible mentality.

That isn't even what I'm saying. I don't have an issue with this because it can be easily circumvented, I have a problem with it because of what it is - censorship, quick and easy. The fact it's easy to get around just means it isn't as horrible as it would be if that wasen't true.

And this doesn't exist. Just because a patent is awarded does not mean that censorship is taking place. The software has yet to be written or implemented.

For once, you make a good point. It has not been created yet and Apple does actually get patents on a lot of things they never end up using - I just hope this is one of them.

Furthermore, the parents that would choose to use this feature would already be utilising invasive techniques to parent their children. This doesn't change that.

Again, who controls the censorship makes absolutely no difference to the fact that it's censorship. That's a stupid way to justify it.

And when it comes to techniques to parent children, read my post further up where I described why it'd be much more likely to damage the child than anything else.

 

[wirelessmacuser]

Sexting is a _problem_ reflective of our society today.

I find it Unacceptable


That said, at what point do we hold parents responsible for doing their part? For raising their children?

Steve Jobs in all his (sic) brilliance has found:

1) A money making opportunity, Cloaked as the "good guy" for "saving the children"
2) Drawing more attention to Apple, thereby polishing their halo.
3) Feeding is insatiable ego.
4) Further locking down a device. (just like the government would do)
5) Flexing his holier than thou muscle.
6) Making a decision for the "little people".
7) Fostering his already controversial image as the gatekeeper.

What a crock...

 

[0dev]

Sexting is a _problem_ reflective of our society today.

I find it Unacceptable

I'm curious...

1) Is that just because it's teenagers who are known for doing it?
2) If yes, then if you knew an adult who did it (which many do, it just so happens the media can't create enough of a scare story with that), would you feel the same about it?
3) Are you referring to sending photos or sending sexual texts/e-mails too?

 

[da-vid]

Well collage != independent. Most kids in collage the parents still control the purse strings. Parents still pay for the phone bills. Hell parents still pay most of the bills.

Since they are on said family plan I would need to remove that ability. It just comes with the fact once they hit college they generally are not living at home but I would still control the purse strings.

But see, what you're doing is preventing your kids from ever becoming independent. Even if not financially independent, you have to eventually realize that you're not going to be there every second of their life making sure they don't drop the f-bomb while in a casual conversation with their friends. Would you also prevent them from ever sending a dirty text, if you could?

I honestly don't see much difference between a 16- or 17-year-old kid sending a dirty message vs. an 18-year-old "adult."

Therefore, playing moral police for your children (i.e. Parental Control or, in your case, spying on your children outright) is an awful thing to do. It seriously hampers their ability to become independent.

 

[mdelvecchio]

unless this feature is completely optional, i don't like it.

no dude, apple is going to start censoring your texts. all the time. cuz they wanna.

>slap forehead<

 

[Surely]

One thing about this thread, you certainly know who the adolescent/immature kids are just by their posts alone. Sad.

That's for sure.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

One thing about this thread, you certainly know who the adolescent/immature kids are just by their posts alone. Sad.

oh so true.

The ones that seems the most up in arms about it are the ones who it would directly effect. The older people and more importantly the ones who have kids or want kids seem to understand this. Big time if they have teenagers. They know it is impossible to watch over them at all times. We live in a world were communcation is much harder to keep track of.

Back 20 years ago we did not have email. We did txt messaging. Cell phone just started hitting the consumer sector and were the size and weight of a brick.

So basically all form of communication between kids for the most part was monitored any how. If you were on the phone at home a parent could easily pick up the phone or hear one side of the convocation and easily put limits on when the phone call would end.

Now days kids have cell phone can easily quickly send pictures to eachother and text message. No real way for them to intercepted like in the passed.

 

[0dev]

The ones that seems the most up in arms about it are the ones who it would directly effect.

It wouldn't effect anyone who has decent parents, or, failing that, knows what jailbreaking is.