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Apple Beginning High-Volume iPhone OS 3.0 Push Notification Testing
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a) this is great
b) they should have the option to download trial versions of paid apps that expire after a day or two, I've been saying this for a long time now, and at least we know that it definitely can work ...
b) they should have the option to download trial versions of paid apps that expire after a day or two, I've been saying this for a long time now, and at least we know that it definitely can work ...
Well, the expiration is probably hard-coded in this case to a specific date (one week from now?). It isn't hard to do a relative expiration date, but it is hard to prevent hacking around that.
Looks like Apple really screwed up here. Those SMS alert style pop ups will be oh so annoying. They should have done something lower profile that the user could see and then either choose to ignore or act on. Something like a blinking icon in the menubar that you could click on to check, dismiss, or act on.
Well, for each app you have the option to turn off the pop-up and just use sounds or badges on the icon. So that fixes one problem. But I agree 100% that we need a window will all notifications that can be accessed anywhere and doesn't interrupt the app you're in.
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Hmm,
Associated Press gets selected for the massive testing above all other content providers. Considering Associated Press demoed their incredible software & service on the Nokia N97 in Widget and full application form; I find this ironic that Apple decided to give them premium showing. June2 is the launch date in Europe - UK for the Nokia N97 and it will ship for FREE on contract on Both Vodafone & O2, with Orange also getting low pricing. Considering retail it will be over $600US or lower at Nokia's Store in NYC/Chicago - I'd say somebody is worried that this will be successful.
Either way its about TIME that Iphone begin to act like a true smartphone without users resorting to hacking the firmware (Jailbreak is the same sh*t; regardless of semantics in wording).
Hmm,
Associated Press gets selected for the massive testing above all other content providers. Considering Associated Press demoed their incredible software & service on the Nokia N97 in Widget and full application form; I find this ironic that Apple decided to give them premium showing. June2 is the launch date in Europe - UK for the Nokia N97 and it will ship for FREE on contract on Both Vodafone & O2, with Orange also getting low pricing. Considering retail it will be over $600US or lower at Nokia's Store in NYC/Chicago - I'd say somebody is worried that this will be successful.
Either way its about TIME that Iphone begin to act like a true smartphone without users resorting to hacking the firmware (Jailbreak is the same sh*t; regardless of semantics in wording).
Maybe they are just checking the actual "push" and the notification part will be updated before the final release.
i think this is a great to test the new service! glad to see apple asking the developers to help with the testing.
It looks just like a text message. That means that if you get two of ANY alert (alarm, calender, SMS, Push, missed call, etc), you will not be able to see the pushed content. When you unlock the phone it won't open to any 3rd party apps and the alert can no longer be accessed. All you will be left with is nondescript badge icons that will let you know something for a particular app has been pushed to the phone. How will they handle clearing the badge icons?
Isn't the general concept of the badge icon to let you distinguish new content in an app from what has already been addressed? For example, in messaging and email it differentiates unread from read mail/messages and a task manager app differentiates tasks that are "due soon" from completed. With a news app like this, however, all of the content is essentially going to be new each time you open the app. A badge icon will be meaningless. Will the badge icon be cleared when you open the app? Will you have to open each new article to clear them? What is the point of getting a text notification for every new article that is published (by category or not) if you will only be interested in a fraction of them anyways? Furthermore, many outlets already use SMS notifications for certain events or stories you are interested in tracking. Apple has seriously wasted a year replicating this functionality with it's own infrastructure?
Push will be an epic failure. I will be laughing my ass off around ~January when Apple releases iPhone software 3.5 - "now with multitasking!" and push is never heard from again.
Why don't they just add a bar below the menu bar that pops open when something comes in, kind of like the bar that pops up when you are on a phone call and press the menu button to go to the menu. Or the bar the pops up when you are tethering. That would be a great spot for notifications.
This pop up notification system just looks so antiquated and not very streamlined.
I'm not a dev so I haven't seen anything yet, but I think that as long as there's the options available to control these push notifications that the system will be great.
For example, I don't want anything resembling a text message when the New York Times pushes out an article about photography, but a badge notification would be good. A professional in the press or photography business (or something similar) might actually want that "loud' type of notification.
If users have the ability to adequately control which applications push and which type of push notifications they can make (hell, I don't even want every app to be able to vibrate my phone like an e-mail, that would be very distracting) then the system will be fine. Otherwise the whole system could just be used for a new age of spam.
But I trust that Apple will get it right the first time on this.
For example, I don't want anything resembling a text message when the New York Times pushes out an article about photography, but a badge notification would be good. A professional in the press or photography business (or something similar) might actually want that "loud' type of notification.
If users have the ability to adequately control which applications push and which type of push notifications they can make (hell, I don't even want every app to be able to vibrate my phone like an e-mail, that would be very distracting) then the system will be fine. Otherwise the whole system could just be used for a new age of spam.
But I trust that Apple will get it right the first time on this.
You'd better hope so - else push notification will be an annoying and obtrusive experience.
Guys ... how can you compare iPhone version of associated press with this version on S60 5th Edition on N97 demo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aaqPs-xnpk&feature=related
thanks.
Yes. We need something similar to Intelliscreen from jailbroken phone.
I am a developer and I have installed AP App for push notification testing. I did receive two push notifications till now. They are just like SMS messages. We get some different sound when notification arrives.
Personally, I find this solution inadequate but I am willing to wait until the OS 3.0 is released and the next iPhone is released in the next month.
If Apple screws this up then I am sure a lot of ppl are going to dump iPhone and move to Pre (I assume Pre does what I have seen in all it's video demos).
well i think people will re-jailbreak there iphones, so they wont deal with the pop up notification, but i for one will go back to a BB (BOLD) and might just keep my iphone. (but not to sure about re-jailbreaking i hate the lag!)
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Me too.
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Me too.
yea, but its has that annoying pop up, yes there might or will be away to hide it but, like i said before we need a status notifier.
I'm pretty sure that within the app will be an option for you to receive notifications or not. Knowing that, I think that i would only have apps that i cared about, meaning that the notifications would be relevant to myself.