Apple Begins Selling iPhone SE Again on Clearance Store, Starting at $249 Brand New [Back in Stock]

[Juicy Box]

What about 5G? All these devices will be outdated?

Basically no.... LTE will not be going any where for a very long time.

5G coverage won't be wide spread for many years, and do to the type of technology, may never be as widespread as LTE.

When 5G phones start becoming the norm, most people will still be using LTE with their 5G capable phones.

 

[2GoldFish]

In the past, comments made regarding demand for SE (or small size iPhone) in MR have been met with aggressive/sarcastic come back citing there's no demand for small size phones.

Cough Cough...

 

[Juicy Box]

Although I was delighted with my SE, most here couldn't get past the fact that (A) it used an older chassis and (B) didn't have the latest and greatest internals.

I agree with your post, but the SE did have many of the current internals at its launch. Of course, it wasn't ever updated and became behind when the iPhone 7 launched.

I preferred the older chassis, and the internals it launched with were good. I just wished it had Touch ID2, and maybe a better camera, but only if the better camera didn't come with a bump.

 

[wicker21]

The cable bill phenomenon happening with wireless phone bills. People are starting to realize the reality of what they are paying per month for their phones. If they thought the cable bill was high, the reality of their wireless bill makes cable look like a bargain.

More how do I reduce my current phone bills coming. The first and least impact, find a phone that gets the job done while reducing their bill. A family of four, at current SE pricing, would save about 2K over the life of four iPhones. Apple’s echo system desired but, just like cable at some point many will be forced to find less expensive alternatives.

Hopefully by this action Apple has received the message.

Why more people don’t switch to MVNOs is still beyond me; simple to reduce your bill and you don’t lose hardly any features except for a few high end options (esim, LTE Apple Watch, etc.).

I think a lot of people assume you have to be on one of the 4 big carriers to get smartphones.

 

[dennislaska]

Well they're all sold out, so there was some demand but we don't know how many they had (typical Apple). Maybe they only had 1 in each configuration.

 

[Juicy Box]

The problem with your post, it isn’t based on facts, it’s based on snark. There really is no other logical explanation on why they returned the SE, other than liquidation of over stock, that’s it.

I am not saying I agree with the post you quoted, but your logical explanation isn't based on facts either, it is just a guess.

Also, for the record, they marked the SE down likely to move the inventory as fast as they could, and because it is almost a three year old device.

This might be true, but why wait so long to do it....

It is a strange move for Apple imo.

 

[Mark Holmes]

Damn. I went to the site too late - I wanted to buy 2 space grey 128GB and all that was left was silver and gold - both white faces. Why can't Apple make and sell the products that people still want? What I would do for an iPhone SE2, 256GB, same design, WITH a headphone jack. Apple is leaving money on the table...

 

[Juicy Box]

The cable bill phenomenon happening with wireless phone bills. People are starting to realize the reality of what they are paying per month for their phones.

I noticed this a long time ago.

Talking to ppl I know, it seems to be common to have a really high cell phone bill, although, people seem to be fine with it.

As for cable/isp bills, I did a local poll a while back asking what people pay for their cable/isp bills. IIRC, over 20% of the ppl responded payed over $200 a month, and 80% over $130.

People pay for services that they would hardly ever or never use too. Many people responded that they were getting Gigabit internet, but used it for basic web browsing and Netflix.

As for cell phone bills, I think we are all getting ripped off in the US.

 

[44267547]

but your logical explanation isn't based on facts either, it is just a guess.

I don’t mean to be dismissive, your post is completely unnecessary to even reply to this. It just seems like you're reaching for a frivolous argument over nothing. I mean, I think there would be more of a tangible discussion here, besides nitpicking a strawman argument out of my statement because I said something that didn’t correlate to how you viewed it based on ‘fact’ regarding the SE ? Either way, I would say my post is an educated guess, but is it proven based on facts with an actual source that I can say otherwise? No. Unless I stated something otherwise stating it was a fact, then it would be. Otherwise, my logical explanation seems highly....logical.

 

[timidpimpin]

This phone is for people with very small hands, and very good eyesight. I could never use a 4" phone. Smallest I can go on display is 5.5". I used a friends iPhone SE once and it felt like a very high quality toy.

 

[Juicy Box]

Damn. I went to the site too late - I wanted to buy 2 space grey 128GB and all that was left was silver and gold - both white faces. Why can't Apple make and sell the products that people still want? What I would do for an iPhone SE2, 256GB, same design, WITH a headphone jack. Apple is leaving money on the table...

Yup, it is a shame.

Unless Apple comes out with a new SE that I like, or Apple dramatically reduces their prices on their current phones, I am going to use my SE until it dies.

I didn't think they would sell out that quickly, so I waited to buy the clearance ones, but I would have gotten one as a spare incase something happened to my SE.

 

[MacFather]

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[Porco]

Lmaooo you can’t be serious.

You can laugh it off off off all you like!
Yes I am serious. Better technical specifications aren't everything. An iMac Pro could outperform an iPhone XS Plus but I wouldn't want to lug that around in my pocket either

Like I said, just IMHO, if you like other iPhones better, that's fine

This phone is for people with very small hands, and very good eyesight. I could never use a 4" phone. Smallest I can go on display is 5.5". I used a friends iPhone SE once and it felt like a very high quality toy.

Not sure old you are, but iPhones were all that small, or smaller(!), until September 2014 and somehow lots of people managed ok and even liked using the iPhone.

 

[emulajavi]

Wow! Sold out!

Apple...maybe if you released again your TOP iPhone for $650 maximum, you’d still be selling always more iPhones than the year before...maybe

 

[44267547]

This phone is for people with very small hands.

How did you come to that conclusion? What about all the four-inch that we had years back that millions of people were using? Were those only for people with small hands? The iPhone SE really was intended to be a portable device that is small enough where the consumer isn’t always interested in a larger phone, regardless of someones hand size.

 

[BuddyTronic]

I don’t think it’s ‘horrible’ at all. When I owned my iPhone SE, it was perfect for sending messages and/or maybe watching a quick video, etc. If I want to consume any more media other than that, I can revert to my iPad. The SE was really meant as a convenience factor in a smaller package, and less obtrusive in the pocket as these larger phones are today, that’s what the SE excelled at so well.

I think just a bit smaller than iPhone X but with the latest tech would be great. It’s a battle of fitting in the pocket and what your eyes can see and a lot of things, but yeah I think if we look at all the things people are saying, it would be good for Apple to keep making a smaller size phone but with maximum screen too. Really the X was just about perfect. I do like my XS Max tho. It would be tough to decide if the next gen offered such size choices.

 

[AZ63]

I guess Apple had to do something with the inexpensive phones they were making in India that weren't selling.

 

[jayducharme]

A suggestion emailed to tcook@apple.com

That's a great idea! It fits in with their iPad mini naming convention.

 

[44267547]

I think just a bit smaller than iPhone X but with the latest tech would be great. It’s a battle of fitting in the pocket and what your eyes can see and a lot of things, but yeah I think if we look at all the things people are saying, it would be good for Apple to keep making a smaller size phone but with maximum screen too. Really the X was just about perfect. I do like my XS Max tho. It would be tough to decide if the next gen offered such size choices.

Agreed. I don’t think an iPhone SE 2 is out of the picture entirely, but if it is revamped in the future, it won’t resemble what it once was. I think people seem to forget Apple is one of the most unpredictable companies in the world. But I agree, the 5.8 X was surprisingly smaller than I expected. Even though I own a larger iPhone, I would be perfectly content if Apple released an iPhone SE two, and I think they should try to meet the demographic the best they can in offeringoptions, because options allow for a wider variety of sales. And in Apple’s business, it’s pririoty one.

 

[Arctic Moose]

It is a strange move for Apple imo.

So strange. There must have been hundreds of channels they could have used to offload these phones without making Apple look bad.

 

[BuddyTronic]

Wow! Sold out!

Apple...maybe if you released again your TOP iPhone for $650 maximum, you’d still be selling always more iPhones than the year before...maybe

They would lose money because it costs that much to make it! - just for the hardware! Not paying for engineering or assembly!

Also selling “more” is not as important as profits. They will be making record profits even though they sold less this last quarter and that’s one of the reasons why they do not need to report sales numbers breakdown for iPhones. None of the other companies do either and all this moaning and groaning from the stock analysts about “what does Apple have to hide” is missing the point as per usual - the analysts are not usually demonstrating insight into Apple and they seem to be unable to comprehend financial statements actually.

What would the analysts think if they sold a ton of iPhone SE‘s ? Do you think the analysts would realize that there’s less profit there? Probably not is what I’m thinking. At least not until it they had their noses rubbed in it a few times

But you still have a valid point in that if Apple put their brand on a $250 iPhone, people will buy them up quickly! Apple knows what they are doing and this experiment probably gives them good sales data about things like market saturation and magic price point. If I was vice president of Apple I would be making bets or an office betting pool about how many hours to sell out, that kind of thing. It’s also very plausible to consider pulling a Xbox trick in which you sell the iPhone at cost or below cost but then rely on the expansion of the ecosystem to cover that las it’s also very plausible to consider pulling a Xbox track in which you sell the iPhone at cost or below cost but then rely on the expansion of the ecosystem to cover and make the profits on the back end (services). I think it’s a bit too much of a crazy move but they (Microsoft) did that with the Xbox I believe. If Apple really wanted to they could do so many different crazy things it would blow minds. Such thoughts might be coming into mind for places like India and Africa - I am guessing - but it does make a bit of sense to test the waters a bit, gather the data and extrapolate to the India problem. There’s enough people in India to buy the most expensive iPhones for sure and make it worthwhile but if they want to serve the masses perhaps they do need to consider a low-cost phone

 

[Juicy Box]

I don’t mean to be dismissive, your post is completely unnecessary to even reply to this. It just seems like you're reaching for a frivolous argument over nothing.

You quoted a post that was clearly sarcastic, some might say that your post is completely unnecessary.

The reason why I quoted your post was to point out that you dismiss the post you quoted due to it not being base off of facts, you give a educated guess and say it is the only logical reason for Apple to do this.... This statement is also not based off of fact.

mean, I think there would be more of a tangible discussion here, besides nitpicking a strawman argument out of my statement because I said something that didn’t correlate to how you viewed it based on ‘fact’ regarding the SE ?

. You did the same exact thing to the post you quoted, so, how are you right and I am wrong?

Anyways, I am not saying I even disagree with your post other than the you stating that your educated guess is the only logical reason for Apple to do this. I was just pointing at the irony of quoting what is clearly a joke, then pointing out that it is a problematic statement since it is not based off of facts, and then proceed to give a educated guess that is also not based off of any facts.

Actually, if your post looked like this, I probably may have not even made a comment:

There really is no other logical explanation on why they returned the SE, other than liquidation of over stock

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How did you come to that conclusion? What about all the four-inch that we had years back that millions of people were using? Were those only for people with small hands? The iPhone SE really was intended to be a portable device that is small enough where the consumer isn’t always interested in a larger phone, regardless of someones hand size.

I have large hands, and I agree.

Actually, I sold my old iPhone 6s Plus to a friend of mine that is 6' 5", and has very large hands. He complains about the size all the time. He said that he is thinking of going back to Android because Apple doesn't offer any small phones at competitive prices.

I think people with smaller hands might have issues with bigger phones, but there are other things not like about large phones that have nothing to do with hand size.

Pocket size is one of them.

 

[haddy]

Damn. I went to the site too late - I wanted to buy 2 space grey 128GB and all that was left was silver and gold - both white faces. Why can't Apple make and sell the products that people still want? What I would do for an iPhone SE2, 256GB, same design, WITH a headphone jack. Apple is leaving money on the table...

I agree ......... but also I would buy a SE1 if my current one ever craps out

 

[Juicy Box]

So strange. There must have been hundreds of channels they could have used to offload these phones without making Apple look bad.

Yea, it is so strange.

I get that maybe Apple might just wanted to upload them quickly. Maybe to reduce inventory on their balance sheet.

I wonder if this will help with the iPhone Sold numbers to give investors.....

 

[bigchief]

I really don't understand why Apple would not want to have an SE or a phone similar to an SE in their line up just to entice people into the Apple system. Who knows they may start buying all the other apple products.