Apple Begins Selling iPhone SE Again on Clearance Store, Starting at $249 Brand New [Back in Stock]

[mark081990]

I hope they'll be cowardly and leave the headphone jack on this phone! I can make this a spare to rotate with my 6S+. As I've stated before, I just want Apple to continue making a touch id phone with a headphone jack. If they'd add some nice DAC's as per the V20/30/40 LG line, they'd get me back as an iPhone customer.
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Curious - why? How would you find the SE to be superior to the 6S? I'd like to have an SE as a spare to alternate with my 6S+ when I want a smaller phone, but wouldn't feel the same if I had a 6S.
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I don’t think it’s superior. I just decided to buy the SE last night because I’m out of memory on my 64gb 6S so 128gb will solve that problem. Also, I wouldn’t mind going back to the smaller phone.
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I hope they'll be cowardly and leave the headphone jack on this phone! I can make this a spare to rotate with my 6S+. As I've stated before, I just want Apple to continue making a touch id phone with a headphone jack. If they'd add some nice DAC's as per the V20/30/40 LG line, they'd get me back as an iPhone customer.
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Curious - why? How would you find the SE to be superior to the 6S? I'd like to have an SE as a spare to alternate with my 6S+ when I want a smaller phone, but wouldn't feel the same if I had a 6S.
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I agree, and it will also be quite a while before a decent 5G infrastructure/coverage will be available. Initial offerings will likely be costly as well.

I have a 64gb 6S that’s out of memory. Plus I like the size of the SE even more than the 6S. I’m kindve ticked off that apple doesn’t update this SE with a better camera and processor.

Any idea on the trade in?

 

[Fenway1912]

I bought one.. who still makes decent cases for this phone? Having trouble finding one that is still being manufactured.

Power Support - $35 but worth every penny. It looks great and doesn’t yellow like the rubber ones and it shows off the great pro design of the SE

Photos taken with an XS

I still have my 3 year old SE going strong... love the XS for web and media consumption and the camera but on the fence about keeping it

 

[Tozovac]

Tim looking to rejigger some revenue, not provide something (some) customers want.

 

[newellj]

This is a test! Everybody buy one! If they sell well, they’ll decide to resurrect the smaller form factor! Go! Let’s do this!

I now believe AAPL will use the Results as a Trial Balloon.

So does the fact that they’re sold out mean Apple was just clearing inventory, and they won’t be sold again, or will they be back in stock when more stock is made?

Mostly likely explanation is that these are phones that went through the refurb process for one reason or another (warranty repairs/replacements and customer returns). This happened with the Mini for a couple of years after the 2012 Mini had been discontinued.

 

[verniesgarden]

As someone that works in UI/UX I really wish they’d kill off these tiny screens. While not awful to design for it really gimps opportunity that the larger screens open up.

 

[dooger21]

You are absolutely not getting what is happening here.

It's the same thing every time Apple drops a product: It disappears from the store, and a few months later all the remaining phones that are in storage somewhere, or may have been in transport when the product was dropped, turn up on the refurbished store or as clearance item. There are none produced anymore. There won't be any produced anytime in the future.

We will see how long they stay on sale. The MacBook Pro 17" was avaiable at a very good price for over a year until they were sold out. If everyone who complained that it was removed from the store had bought one, they would have been gone in a week.

Is it telling that I own a maxed out CTO 2.5 GHz 17” MacBook Pro (my personal “unicorn” Mac) and I ordered one of this batch of Space Gray 128GB iPhone SE phones as soon as I saw the article?

Counterpoint-I do have a 256GB iPhone Xr and love it. The battery life alone is amazing.

 

[Mac 128]

As someone that works in UI/UX I really wish they’d kill off these tiny screens. While not awful to design for it really gimps opportunity that the larger screens open up.

You must find the Apple Watch really disappointing ...

 

[SeattleMoose]

Apple's best phone ever!!! Classic form factor. Bought one of these for $349 the day after Apple failed to announce the SE2. Best decision I ever made. But now, at $249, this phone is a STEAL!!! Glad Apple is listening to their customers. Apple needs to learn that change for the sake of the change is not always good. When you design the perfect product...you don't replace it with an inferior more expensive option.

I am hoping this is a "trial balloon" by Apple to determine whether a SE2 is worth it. Fingers crossed.

 

[Brandhouse]

But it's not upgradable to the latest iOS, isn't that right? So, why would I buy one?

 

[bizzaregood]

But it's not upgradable to the latest iOS, isn't that right? So, why would I buy one?

It can be... fully supports iOS 12. Where are people getting that the SE isn’t supported or being updated?

 

[tubular]

But it's not upgradable to the latest iOS, isn't that right? So, why would I buy one?

My SE is running 12.1.2 at the moment.

 

[MrGuder]

Nothing beats the portability of the SE. I sold mine back to Apple because the screen is just too small for me to view and the display is subpar compared to my 6s display. I can’t let go of my 6s because I love it so much. It’s the perfect size and display is top notch and it has the zoom feature which I like that the SE doesn’t have. I really can’t go any smaller than 4.7” screen like my 6s.

I do plan one day to upgrade to the newest iPhone maybe the iPhone 11 if they reduce the Face ID notch and give it a larger battery. But my 6s is fine and with a new battery for 29.00 it’s like brand new even though it’s going on 4yrs old.

 

[max.ine]

There will probably be an SE2 in March/April.

 

[Martyimac]

My SE is running 12.1.2 at the moment.

Mine too.

 

[iApplereviews]

But it's not upgradable to the latest iOS, isn't that right? So, why would I buy one?

The iPhone SE supports iOS 12. Infact the iPhone 5S supports iOS 12 and it's older. The SE is the same internals as the 6S so it will likely have another year or 2 of iOS updates.

 

[NetMage]

Do you have any sales figures that indicate that the SE wasn't selling well? Pure sales figures are not the only factor that goes into the decision of whether or not a product will continue. Based on Apple's direction of their flagship phones, the production of the SE appeared to be a "tactical" move only intended to exist for a short time. It might've even been simply a "market research" tool to see how consumers would respond to it.

The majority of the market hasn't spoken. A consumer cannot buy something that isn't offered. In order to draw a conclusion that the majority of the market wants phablets, Apple would have had to offer two iPhones identical in all ways except for screen size. They didn't. Although I was delighted with my SE, most here couldn't get past the fact that (A) it used an older chassis and (B) didn't have the latest and greatest internals.

There were too many variables to conclude that it was simply screen size that was the determining factor.

When the iPhone SE was released, it contained the same flagship internals as the the current 6s, something that surprised a lot of analysts at the time.
The SE was on the market for the same amount of time of every other previous flagship model, so if it was a test, so was the iPhone 6 or 6s.

When the SE went on-sale, it was out sold by larger phones 10 to 1, even with the flagship internals. Even including the cheaper small form factor phones still being sold from previous years, they only compromised 16% of the market. Apple may make an SE2, but it won’t be because of huge demand.

Too many are jumping to the conclusion that fast sales of what may be a few hundred left over phones equals a huge demand.

 

[Royksöpp]

I enjoy my iPhone SE 32GB a lot. Small and works fine. I really don't care about phones. If I need to do something complex, I'll use my laptop.

At the end of a day it's still just an iPhone running iOS. Anyone who believes they can do complex tasks on these devices is kidding themselves. The same goes for the iPad. I could maybe a go a week with an iPad only before I want to pull my hair out!

 

[Michael Goff]

You must find the Apple Watch really disappointing ...

Most people just don’t support the Apple Watch.

 

[iGeek2014]

I noticed this a long time ago.

Talking to ppl I know, it seems to be common to have a really high cell phone bill, although, people seem to be fine with it.

As for cable/isp bills, I did a local poll a while back asking what people pay for their cable/isp bills. IIRC, over 20% of the ppl responded payed over $200 a month, and 80% over $130.

People pay for services that they would hardly ever or never use too. Many people responded that they were getting Gigabit internet, but used it for basic web browsing and Netflix.

As for cell phone bills, I think we are all getting ripped off in the US.

Am I right in thinking, that, in the U.S your carriers deduct minutes or allowances for making AND receiving phone calls?

 

[Wandering Wastrel]

This is just a guess, but I think that Apple considers every SE sold in the US is a loss of a sale on a more expensive model.

If they're thinking like that, perhaps they shouldn't. In my case the SE I purchased was the loss of a sale of a Motorola Moto G6 Play, via Amazon. I'd already decided on an Android phone to move to, once the home button on my iPhone 6 finally stopped working (it's been getting a bit unreliable of late).

Now I'm going to stay in the Apple iPhone ecosystem for at least another three years or so, and I'm no longer hesitant about the Mac Mini I plan to purchase later this year.

Kinda funny how giving a customer what they want can pay off in the long term.

 

[KPOM]

Am I right in thinking, that, in the U.S your carriers deduct minutes or allowances for making AND receiving phone calls?

Yes, on legacy plans. For the most part, new plans have unlimited calls and texts.

 

[Tozovac]

As someone that works in UI/UX I really wish they’d kill off these tiny screens. While not awful to design for it really gimps opportunity that the larger screens open up.

Respectfully: Awful post. Classic example of what’s wrong with today’s web/app/os design. Content becoming what creators want to create, to meet the creator’s needs/preferences, and not what’s best for the customers in mind. Ios7, flat design, etc.

 

[DeepIn2U]

The form factor feels great in hand and the interface is just perfect to navigate with just your thumb. The SE had the internals of the 6S, and I was still happy with that phone up until I traded-in for the Xs a month ago.
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It's curious indeed. In fact I wonder if they're testing the waters to see if it still sells.

Apple needs to make inroads in India badly and I don't think it would be hard to update the processor and camera on the SE, keep the casing and stick to this price point.

Agreed regarding India.

If Apple can get in there they could ignore China and all this trade war fisco of this Trump era.

 

[tkermit]

As someone that works in UI/UX I really wish they’d kill off these tiny screens. While not awful to design for it really gimps opportunity that the larger screens open up.

The weird thing is that while screen sizes keep increasing, information density actually decreases. I mean, of course you need a huge screen when this is what your UI looks like:

There is something to be said for a little more information density... and if you aren't married to "authentically digital" design, the UI also becomes way easier to parse visually without needing huge amounts of white space.

 

[Reindeer_Games]

Basically no.... LTE will not be going any where for a very long time.

5G coverage won't be wide spread for many years, and do to the type of technology, may never be as widespread as LTE.

When 5G phones start becoming the norm, most people will still be using LTE with their 5G capable phones.

Just like we (users) did for most of the first two years of 4G with most carriers. I personally waited until service was in my area before investing in next gen tech and was on my 3G for longer than I would have liked- but be that lan modem's, cell phones, etc. you've always got to make sure to get use of that tech before it's actually worthwhile to have.