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What's disconcerting is nobody I know with a 3GS wants to upgrade. That says a lot.

For the first time since the original launch, they aren't viewed as the industry leader. Hopefully they'll catch up next year.
Yep, I'm coming from a 3GS and I don't want to upgrade. I'm actually thinking of going Nexus Prime if the hardware and new software wow me more than what happened today.
 
The drop and subsequent rise coincides precisely with the start and end of the keynote.

Not a stretch to say the announcement caused the drop.

So you're telling that Apple announcement moved the whole market between 1pm and 4pm? :p http://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX:.DJI,INDEXSP:.INX,INDEXNASDAQ:.IXIC :rolleyes:

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It didn't close down too much, but I think the even more staggering figure is it didn't shoot up. Shows no confidence in the release on a day that should have been a huge winner for AAPL.

With this I do agree!
 
It's scary that there are still people who will disagree. I can't see why. Today was a joke.

Scary that there are people that manage their expectations over something they don't control especially when the vendor promised nothing? That's a crucial step to not being disappointed.
 
Which is a solid business plan that will keep them well in the black, and begs the question, why the stock dip? The 4S is still going to sell like hotcakes, AND it's a safer financial move. How could shareholders not love this move?

Stock dips are generally emotional reactions. At one point it was down 4%, but it only ended down .56%. If an iPhone 5 (completely new design) was introduced, you may have seen a similar move in the opposite direction. Over time stocks level at, and reflect, a "truer" value...using one day to decide a company is making the right financial moves is not prudent.
 
Disappointed also, but I'm not buying an android phone. That said, I'm not buying the 4s either. I'll just need to be content with iOS 5 on my iP4 until the 5 comes out.
 
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What was apple doing in one-year time? Just slightly upgrading the hardware? Rubbish.

How many threads did you post this in?
 
This tiny leaked pic of the Nexus-Prime has me more excited than the entire iPhone4S keynote today.

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I am still in shock that the new i4S is in the same exact shell as the current iPhone4, same screen size, same resolution, same thickness, same radio no 4G. I mean it looks exactly like the iPhone4, after 16 months this is the best Apple could come up with ? Are they serious, or is it April fools day ?
 
It didn't close down too much, but I think the even more staggering figure is it didn't shoot up. Shows no confidence in the release on a day that should have been a huge winner for AAPL.

I'm not sure this is extremely accurate. I do agree that a bump would have been seen had they introduced wholly new hardware, but Apple's value is tied to so much more than the iPhone "hardware".

New hardware does not come without costs, and over time, those costs may not sustain a stock price that "shoot(s) up". There's a balance between constantly producing new, capital investment-intensive, hardware and maintaining sustainable profit margins.

I'm not criticizing any other manufacturers, but many put out much lower-cost hardware based on existing designs that do not drive costs up significantly.

The Droid Bionic is very similar in form-factor to the DroidX, but it's internals are different. The Droid and Droid2, many of the Samsung and HTC phones are simply "theme and variation": changes; similar form-factors with nuances in internals.

It's really very similar to what iPhone is doing and has done with the 3Gs and now 4S.

Only time will tell if enough of the installed base will leave to make the decision a poor one; not one day emotional reactions.
 
The "Nexus" line of Google Android phones are big updates/changes every year, why can't the iPhone change every year ? The Nexus-One built by HTC was really cool, but then the Nexus-S made by Samsung had a gorgeous Super AMOLED screen, and Gingerbread OS, and now the Nexus-Prime looks to be the worlds first Super-Smartphone, with another MAJOR step up from the last Nexus just a year ago.

Why doesn't Apple update the iPhone all new like the Nexus series, every year ? Apple sure has the cash and engineering to do so, the iPhone4S is major letdown in that regard.

Compare the Nexus-Prime to the Nexus-S, will be a vast improvement, and just a year between releases, actually will be only like 11 months between release. And the iPhone4 comes out June 2010, and iPhone4S 15 months later, and it looks almost identical, with very little design changes, and minor software updates that should have been there back in iOS3.
 
The iPhone 4 is a phone that is on par with my Droid incredible which is two years old and the 4s with its upgraded internals is no where near what the android superphones are now or will be
 
You know what is even more damning....they didn't even toss in HSPA+! Haha are you kidding me with that? I mean I have VZW so I knew nothing was going to happen with regards to the CDMA/EVDO radios but c'mon. It's almost 2012 and they aren't even going to toss the GSM folks an HSPA+ bone? Hahahaha
 
You know what is even more damning....they didn't even toss in HSPA+! Haha are you kidding me with that? I mean I have VZW so I knew nothing was going to happen with regards to the CDMA/EVDO radios but c'mon. It's almost 2012 and they aren't even going to toss the GSM folks an HSPA+ bone? Hahahaha

The speed is twice as fast though. Whatever tech jargon you want to throw at it, faster is faster.
 
Where is;

- Larger screen ?
- 4G ?
- NFC ?
- thinner and lighter ?
- Widgets ?
- LED Notification Light ?

That's right! What the hell happened to the LED notification light. Apple couldn't even be bothered plop that in? Cripes.
 
Please do not attempt to justify the ball Apple just dropped by telling me people will buy them anyway. Phone sale metrics are no excuse for Apple to degenerate into AAPL. The Apple I fell in love with is never complacent, always innovating. I don't care about their market size -- I care about imagination. And today we got greeting cards.

As a 3GS owner, I've admittedly been coveting the iPhone 4 design. And while I'm sure I'd like a 4S better than my 3GS, I'm sick of being stuck in the 'S'-cycle swamp. Apple wasted SIX MONTHS of my upgrade cycle only to release a phone that's already outdated. If iPhone 2G customers upgraded to a 3GS after two years, why should 3GS customers have to upgrade to a 4S in 2.5 years?

The 4S MIGHT have been an acceptable upgrade back in June. But Apple really needed to introduce a larger, higher quality screen size today. I neither want nor expect a complete redesign every year, but I'm also dissatisfied with a bezel that wastes a full third of the front of my phone. I also find it arrogant that Apple let demand build and hype escalate, only to show up late and unprepared. How can they justify phoning in their most highly anticipated product after 1.5 years of lead time and ~50B in cash on hand? Because people will buy them anyway? That's insulting and unwise.

I predict that Apple is going to be forced to release the phone consumers expected today no later than June 2012. The 4S is already behind the curve; I doubt investors will tolerate such a lazy release cycle moving forward. The 4S might sell like hotcakes, but such an uninspiring showing after an unnecessarily long wait may have damaged the brand. Today might teach consumers not to get their hopes up for Apple products. I'm not ready for Android (shudder), so for now I'm praying that my 3GS will last until WWDC. In the meantime, I hope Apple stops wasting capital trying to ban competing products and gets back to work.

wow! absolutely! THIS x1000! couldn't have said it better myself
 
Come on don't you get it??????

I just can't believe what i read.
Can't you guys see the masterplan. Apple always has a masterplan....

The moment he said iPhone 4S i thought "man these guys are geniuses and planning an atomic blow, not just a big blow, a colossal one"

Try to guess: we'll see if someone gets it.
 
In the meantime, I hope Apple stops wasting capital trying to ban competing products and gets back to work.

I guess Apple feels its easier to stagnate the innovation of others than it is to be innovative themselves.
 
I just can't believe what i read.
Can't you guys see the masterplan. Apple always has a masterplan....

The moment he said iPhone 4S i thought "man these guys are geniuses and planning an atomic blow, not just a big blow, a colossal one"

Try to guess: we'll see if someone gets it.
They ******** up. It's simple as that. Atomic bomb? Sure. It's just that they blew themselves up with the bomb.
 
I think Apple blew it by essentially offering a "incremental upgrade" version of the iPhone 4.

Meanwhile, the Samsung Galaxy S II has become a huge hit worldwide, everyone is waiting for the first phones from Samsung, HTC and Motorola that run Android 4.0 ("Ice Cream Sandwich"), and Apple's decision on an "incremental upgrade" phone has opened the door for Windows Phone 7.5 ("Mango") based cellphones to be surprisingly successful, especially the upcoming Nokia N9 variant that will run "Mango" due in a few weeks.
I said it in another post, but they really need to update iOS and make it "different"... it's so boring and monotonous now after all these years. I agree about Mango, that is a really cool and slick UI.
 
This isn't so much of a minuscule upgrade. They focused hard on hardware especially the camera and the features it comes with. They now made the iPhone a stand alone camera for most people. It was a stand along camera with the iPhone 4 for some people but now with the iPhone 4S we will see more using it as there one and only camera.

The antenna issue is fixed.

Huge improvement with camera

iOS 5 and assistant

Big spec update

iCloud

new apps

ect..

They came out with a lot of things that are really great.

The next iPhone will probably have the larger screen, new redesign, improved specs and camera once again.

I always felt that the 6th generation was going to be the "BIG" one. The iPhone 4 was the "BIG" update from the 3GS, do you really expect another huge update after the iPhone 4?

Anyways I am happy with the iPhone 4S and will be purchasing it and selling off my iPhone 4.
 
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