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apple blew it
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It didn't close down too much, but I think the even more staggering figure is it didn't shoot up. Shows no confidence in the release on a day that should have been a huge winner for AAPL.
I would expect they'd keep the design but A5 chip + 8mpx camera? seriously? after 16 months?...i'll keep my iphone 4 until iphone 5 comes out.
I understand they keep the design 1 more year but they'd at least bring out a bigger screen 4", better battery and 1 or 2 more things in hardware...
Let down...
I'll keep my iphone 4 until iphone 5 comes out. Meanwhile ios 5 is coming to it
I understand they keep the design 1 more year but they'd at least bring out a bigger screen 4", better battery and 1 or 2 more things in hardware...
Let down...
I'll keep my iphone 4 until iphone 5 comes out. Meanwhile ios 5 is coming to it
It's not just the iPhone Apple blew away, it's iPods too. At least iPhones got better specs, iPod touch didn't change anything except adding a white model.
Looks like Apple will be going down the hill since Steve Jobs resigned. Too much spending on lawsuit with Samsung, perhaps?
Looks like Apple will be going down the hill since Steve Jobs resigned. Too much spending on lawsuit with Samsung, perhaps?
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I'm not surprised they kept the same form factor but am surprised they kept the same screen size. They could've at the very least added a notification light on the 4S.
Assuming Apple knew the new upgrade would be viewed as a turd, why did they do it? That's what I can't figure out. What is their contract like with the carriers? Do they get part of each iPhone customer's monthly payment (I think they do)? Even if very few upgrade, as long as customers don't switch to Android, it may not matter to Apple. I'm not switching to Android, but will not buy the 4s.
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What was apple doing in one-year time? Just slightly upgrading the hardware? Rubbish.
What was apple doing in one-year time? Just slightly upgrading the hardware? Rubbish.
I saw this one coming.
It's why I've been posting the reasons I had no interest in the upcoming model and was NOT buying one. For the first time since the release of the original, I am not buying into Apple's lame refresh.
As far as the "latest CPU, upgraded video and other internals" this is NO different than buying the latest computer. The speed difference in real world usage will be modest at best. Anyone who knows anything about Apple, knows they are the masters of hype.
For some reason I just had a feeling, after all sooner or later Apple's arrogance, and condescending attitude, had to come back to bite them in the ass. Today was that day. The lame "event" today was embarrassing to all of us who have been long time enthusiasts.
NOT TO BE CONFUSED with hero worshiping Fanbois. My, my, Apple really screwed up today. And to the apologists who argue that it doesn't matter, they will still sell a massive number. I agree, you are absolutely right, there's not a discerning buyer in the bunch.
Anyone who freely chooses to support Apple's blatant profit taking maneuver deserves the warmed over, milk toast model they get. Comprised of a bit of artificial intelligence and speech recognition, the "Assistant" is a Fanbois dream. An enthusiasts disappointment. This will turn out to be as "Revolutionary" as Face-Time... heh!
Like you've said all along, it's not about specs, it's not about anything other than "belonging" to the clan.
Now smack in the center of mediocrity, Apple is Walmart's Darling. And just like Walmart products, they will sell in huge volume. At the end of the day, as always, Apple execs are laughing all the way to the bank.
It's why I've been posting the reasons I had no interest in the upcoming model and was NOT buying one. For the first time since the release of the original, I am not buying into Apple's lame refresh.
As far as the "latest CPU, upgraded video and other internals" this is NO different than buying the latest computer. The speed difference in real world usage will be modest at best. Anyone who knows anything about Apple, knows they are the masters of hype.
For some reason I just had a feeling, after all sooner or later Apple's arrogance, and condescending attitude, had to come back to bite them in the ass. Today was that day. The lame "event" today was embarrassing to all of us who have been long time enthusiasts.
NOT TO BE CONFUSED with hero worshiping Fanbois. My, my, Apple really screwed up today. And to the apologists who argue that it doesn't matter, they will still sell a massive number. I agree, you are absolutely right, there's not a discerning buyer in the bunch.
Anyone who freely chooses to support Apple's blatant profit taking maneuver deserves the warmed over, milk toast model they get. Comprised of a bit of artificial intelligence and speech recognition, the "Assistant" is a Fanbois dream. An enthusiasts disappointment. This will turn out to be as "Revolutionary" as Face-Time... heh!
Like you've said all along, it's not about specs, it's not about anything other than "belonging" to the clan.
Now smack in the center of mediocrity, Apple is Walmart's Darling. And just like Walmart products, they will sell in huge volume. At the end of the day, as always, Apple execs are laughing all the way to the bank.
I was one of the people who thought that Apple HAS to release an iPhone 5 after all this extra time! But after seeing the keynote today and iPhone 4S I think they'll be just fine...
People were buying the iPhone 4 like hot-cakes even with the new one on the horizon! Why would Apple mess with that and waste the money on iPhone 5 design changes? They already have a solid process in place for manufacturing the iPhone 4 and 4S so they're going to milk it for all it's worth!
A larger screen might very well mean that there will be some app fragmentation, and I just don't see Apple going for that right now. Next year the iPhone 5 LTE with a bigger screen will be a huge boost and by then the Apple Ecosystem will have grown some more.
Is iPhone 4S anything short of amazing? NO! Wait 'til people get their hands on Siri and A5! It'll be like a totally new phone!
People were buying the iPhone 4 like hot-cakes even with the new one on the horizon! Why would Apple mess with that and waste the money on iPhone 5 design changes? They already have a solid process in place for manufacturing the iPhone 4 and 4S so they're going to milk it for all it's worth!
A larger screen might very well mean that there will be some app fragmentation, and I just don't see Apple going for that right now. Next year the iPhone 5 LTE with a bigger screen will be a huge boost and by then the Apple Ecosystem will have grown some more.
Is iPhone 4S anything short of amazing? NO! Wait 'til people get their hands on Siri and A5! It'll be like a totally new phone!
Like many others here, I am utterly disappointed to see "iPhone 4S" on Engadget's liveblog earlier today. Before, I was set on buying the iPhone, even if it was the 4S. But due to the lack of worthy upgrades, even for an iPhone 4S, I am currently in a dilemma as to whether I'll purchase the iPhone 4S or not.
This iphone 4S is a dud what a disapoitment!
I cant believe that apple did this first off they get a new CEO wouldn't you think they would come in with some thunder but no they do a update just to satisfy some people. There is going to be so many reasons why they did not announce iPhone 5 but who cares, for the people who have iphone 4 is it enough to say wow i need to move to the 4S i dont think so. I love the iphone dont get me wrong i have been using ios5 since it was announced but i come from a product environment and if i dont have new product every year i am dead i think apple had a chance to show the world how great they are now they are acting like they are stuck in a time warp. I do hope when they come out with an iphone 5 they knock our socks off. and as a side note android has all these features already but not as polished. i will still stick with apple iphone 4
I cant believe that apple did this first off they get a new CEO wouldn't you think they would come in with some thunder but no they do a update just to satisfy some people. There is going to be so many reasons why they did not announce iPhone 5 but who cares, for the people who have iphone 4 is it enough to say wow i need to move to the 4S i dont think so. I love the iphone dont get me wrong i have been using ios5 since it was announced but i come from a product environment and if i dont have new product every year i am dead i think apple had a chance to show the world how great they are now they are acting like they are stuck in a time warp. I do hope when they come out with an iphone 5 they knock our socks off. and as a side note android has all these features already but not as polished. i will still stick with apple iphone 4
Sales haven't even begun yet... how can you say it is a dud?
"You from a product environment"
What on earth does that mean?
Seriously dude, don't clog MacForums with posts like this.
"You from a product environment"
What on earth does that mean?
Seriously dude, don't clog MacForums with posts like this.
It seems you were already uninterested in Apple before this refresh, but the refresh just put you over the edge.
This is absolutely true. Apple is a hype-machine. But many of their products live up to the hype. I think the hype for this keynote went far beyond the hype there should have been for the 4S. People were just expecting an iPhone 5 "incredible" redesign, just like I was. But I'm not pissed that they didn't come out with it. In fact, I'm still going to buy a 4S.
Yeah, without Steve Jobs heading the keynote, things felt off. Yes, without a redesign after 1 year 3 months of no iPhone, things felt off. Yes, after no upgrade to the iPod Shuffle or iPod Classic, and an extremely minimal update to the Touch and Nano, things felt off.
But I'd like to see other companies come out with products that good. Forget the innovation for now. Look at what's there. What's there is a superior product.
Anything above that for the time being is a treat.
Yes, the mass will continue to eat up Apple products no matter what. But that doesn't come from nowhere. It comes from the fact that people feel Apple products are worth the money, and are buying what they think is best.
I'm not really a fan of particular apps like FaceTime or Assistant, but it's not because I don't think they are good, I'm just not interested in it.
I continue to support Apple because, at the moment, I still feel they are the best company in the world and their products are superior.
I feel great belonging to the same clan that gets the flooring in their retail stores from special mountains in Europe. I feel great belonging to a clan that goes out of their way to provide a highly sophisticated lighting system in their retail stores. I feel great belonging to the same clan that takes pride in the presentation of their products.
Your last statement is true. They are laughing all the way to the bank.
But they've worked for it.
you know its more than likely that most people claiming to switch to android because of the "disappointment" brought on by apple will not switch. I wish you would though.
I dont understand your logic
- LTE, no thanks. I dont want 2 hour battery life.
- redesign (bigger screen), yes that'd be nice but it costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time to redesign the iPhone. The way i see it is if it aint broke, don't fix it.
- Spec race, yes the iPhone 4s "only" has a 1ghz dual core processor. But compare that to an android phone. Now, I haven't played with any of the newer android phones but the older models were laggy and simply annoying to use even when they had more mhz's than iPhones. Fact is, the iOS interface is fluid, and I can guarantee you that even the iPad 1 has a more fluid interface than the samsung galaxy tab.
I dont understand your logic
- LTE, no thanks. I dont want 2 hour battery life.
- redesign (bigger screen), yes that'd be nice but it costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time to redesign the iPhone. The way i see it is if it aint broke, don't fix it.
- Spec race, yes the iPhone 4s "only" has a 1ghz dual core processor. But compare that to an android phone. Now, I haven't played with any of the newer android phones but the older models were laggy and simply annoying to use even when they had more mhz's than iPhones. Fact is, the iOS interface is fluid, and I can guarantee you that even the iPad 1 has a more fluid interface than the samsung galaxy tab.
No because now you will just come off rich because you got the 4S and spent money when it was barely even worth it.
It hints towards disposable income
It hints towards disposable income
Yeah I agree, watching him speak just kept making me think about how much more personality and charisma Steve has. You can just sense his genius the whole time.
Tim Cook is very professional but just doesn't have a watchable spark.
I don't know how many times I have to post this, but the stock price shows absolutely nothing. It went down $8 the day the iPhone 4 was announced. It went down $3 the day the iPhone 3G was announced. It went down $1 or so the day the 3GS was announced. See a pattern here?
If you've got some line of reasoning to justify buying an overpriced, underperforming product, I'm listening. As it is, I can get a SGS2 with a larger display and better internals for the same price.