Screwed what up? What is the screw up? Millions of non-iPhone owners will buy one, because they were waiting for the new phone, be it a 4S or a 5. Millions of 3GS owners will upgrade. Millions of 4 owners will upgrade. Millions of phones will be sold, period. Where's the screw up?
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Screwed what up? What is the screw up? Millions of non-iPhone owners will buy one, because they were waiting for the new phone, be it a 4S or a 5. Millions of 3GS owners will upgrade. Millions of 4 owners will upgrade. Millions of phones will be sold, period. Where's the screw up?
When you're in the spotlight (like performing on stage), even the slightest cock-up is noticed by everyone.
It might not ruin the whole performance, but you can bet it will be the only thing reported on in the papers the next day.
Apple had set the bar high up till now - in a smartphone market, people expect looks and features to change every 6-12 months. 16 months without a hardware refresh has left a lot of people unwilling to plump up the cash for a new iphone.
Apple aren't idiots. Clearly they did the math. Retool completely and make the 5 now, or ride the current setup with a somewhat less compelling internal upgrade, saving millions in production costs? It worked for them just fine with the 3G>3GS spec bump. People made the exact same arguments when the 3GS came out...Apple is clearly no worse for the wear based on that decision.
because there is no user accessible file system which would be needed to access them.
So there would be no way they could implement so we could say save our photos or what not to the SD instead of on our phone...to save storage space I guess?
So consumers are forced to waste there money on the higher storage models instead of buying the cheapest model then buying a third-party SD card. It's a smart move for apple but clearly the only purpose is to make money. They are way too controlling.
Then go to another solution. Pretty simple really. If you don't like it, don't use it, or buy it. I happen to think designer jeans are way to expensive. Therefore, I don't buy them, I buy something different...
I've been following Apple for a few years now, and this happens after every single product launch. It never lives up to Apple fanboys' expectations. Everyone gets so caught up in the rumours that no matter how good the new product is, people are still disappointed.
I don't understand how besides a new form factor Apple could have made this phone any different.
iOS 5 is out and they launched new hardware to keep up with it...very simple. It's just like how they update their computers every few months with speed bumps...
I didn't upgrade from the 3G to the 3GS when it came out. I upgraded from the 3G to the 4. My iPhone 4 works very well (except for the stuck power button...) so I probably won't be upgrading this time around.
I don't understand how besides a new form factor Apple could have made this phone any different.
iOS 5 is out and they launched new hardware to keep up with it...very simple. It's just like how they update their computers every few months with speed bumps...
I didn't upgrade from the 3G to the 3GS when it came out. I upgraded from the 3G to the 4. My iPhone 4 works very well (except for the stuck power button...) so I probably won't be upgrading this time around.
Tell me, what is your answer then? Do you honestly believe apple gives freedom to its consumers? I was just answering the poster's question. I would like to hear your solution to this question.
What are you talking about?
The Company's iPhone release history shows a clear pattern of every other release being more evolution, than revolution.
Apple made no false promises, it was just rampant pre-announcement wild @ss speculation.
Hmmm, let's see... It outdoes the iLame in a lot of ways:
Better Processor
Plays videos without needing to convert them unlike iLame
Does true multi-tasking unlike iLame's so-called multi-tasking
Has a better quality screen unlike iLame (and I'm not a ppi whore unlike some people), especially when it comes to size
Decent storage with the option to upgrade the external storage using the MicroSD card to an extra 64GB on top of the standard 16GB
Can actually receive calls unlike an iLame 4!
I could come up with more reasons, but I have better things to do with my life (which at least I have, unlike some of the Apple fanboy/girl trolls who love worshipping at the Church of St Jobs, unlike people like myself who don't the bullcrap that St Jobs has been spouting over the years)
On another note, can YOU come up with any reasons why an iLame is supposedly better than an Android phone like the GSII even though the latest iLame is already nearly 2 years out of date...
At least Android does what Apple doesn't at the end of the day! (and that includes making and taking phonecalls)
Yes; any company selling goods gives freedom to the consumers. The freedom to buy what they want., or not buy it at all. The 2012 Acura TL doesn't have a lot more than the 2011, but it's more expensive. So, using the logic given to me, I should be upset with Acura, and stating that they're not giving me the freedom as a consumer? And they're forcing me to buy a product that hasn't changed much? I don't believe so...
I can be disappointed that they didn't release what I thought was going to be released, based on speculation, rumor, and hearsay. But that's my fault for buying into that hype. Apple never stated what they were going to offer, in terms of a new phone. I also have that freedom to say, okay Apple...I'm done with you. I'll find another phone, that meets my needs, and buy into that solution and ecosystem. My choice. If you elect to spin it, and support an argument, yes...Apple "forced" me to make the change. I happen to find that logic off, and irrational. IMO...
Hmmm, let's see... It outdoes the iLame in a lot of ways:
Better Processor
Plays videos without needing to convert them unlike iLame
Does true multi-tasking unlike iLame's so-called multi-tasking
Has a better quality screen unlike iLame (and I'm not a ppi whore unlike some people), especially when it comes to size
Decent storage with the option to upgrade the external storage using the MicroSD card to an extra 64GB on top of the standard 16GB
Can actually receive calls unlike an iLame 4!
I could come up with more reasons, but I have better things to do with my life (which at least I have, unlike some of the Apple fanboy/girl trolls who love worshipping at the Church of St Jobs, unlike people like myself who don't the bullcrap that St Jobs has been spouting over the years)
On another note, can YOU come up with any reasons why an iLame is supposedly better than an Android phone like the GSII even though the latest iLame is already nearly 2 years out of date...
At least Android does what Apple doesn't at the end of the day! (and that includes making and taking phonecalls)
Sounds like your a fanboy yourself. I'm sure you're only on this board to spread your good cheer. All of your arguments are flawed, as well as the delivery. Statements like iLame, and the like justify it.
As far as phone calls; never had issues with my iPhone 3G, or 4. Yet, I've known a number of people who own HTC, and some Samsung phones [Android based] that drop calls, and have poor call quality. Usually though it's the stupidity of the person who owns the phone. They buy a phone based on what they see, and want. They fail to see if the carrier works in their area, or if the phone has solid call quality. And I've see all too often Android phone users not being able to take a call, or lose a call due to battery drain. See, I can float crap out there too...
I'm not happy with the 4s either but after reading your retarded post i'm positive it has to be better than the SGS2.
That's the so-called improvements? Thank God, I'm not an iLame Sheeple! I have no problem with the iPad (although I'll be getting an iPad 3 or 4 in Singapore in November next year) and the iPod Touch, although if the next version isn't a major improvement where storage is concerned, I'll just wait till the next version comes out instead)
My current phone is WAY better than the iLame 4S and it only came out about 6 bloody months ago! By the time iLame 5 comes out, it'll be even more outdated as there'll be even better phones out by then, especially where ones made by the likes of Samsung and HTC are concerned.
As I said elsewhere on these forums, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people come over to the Android Side permanently or do so until the iLame 5 comes out, although if it turns out to be just as big a disappointment like the iLame 4 and 4S, I think it would take a miracle for Apple to recover their market share in the smartphone market...
And pray tell why is my post supposedly retarded. At least I have a valid opinion on why the GSII is way better than the so-called improved iLame... Face facts, if people want to buy a inferior phone because of the brand name, let them. At least, this phone is a real phone unlike the iLame.
You could have worded your post a lot better, you know without being condescending just because I'm an Android fanboy who doesn't believe the iLame hype.
On another note, please tell me why the iLame 4S is supposedly better than the GSII because I definitely can't see why it's better, except for storage with the top-range version, and even then, you can't add extra storage to it unlike with an Android phone.
What are you talking about?
The Company's iPhone release history shows a clear pattern of every other release being more evolution, than revolution.
Apple made no false promises, it was just rampant pre-announcement wild @ss speculation.
They toned them down with the leaks somewhat, but still, most fans were hoping for an iphone 5, despite the 3GS release.
The fact that Apple think it's necessary to wait 2-3 years to change hardware shells on a phone is staggering. The upside in sales they would get from changing it at every revision would be a good 20-30% higher.
I, like many others was hoping the 3GS was the exception, not the rule. I'm not sure I'll be happy going forward changing my phone's look once every 2-3 years.
I'm an Android fanboy and proud of it! What point are you trying to make, mi amigo?
With my phone, it definitely works everywhere I want it to do unlike a lot of the phones in the USA, I believe.
Also, I've never had any dropped calls or calls where I couldn't hear the person at the other end.
I have no problem with people loving Apple products, it's just the Apple trolls that I can't stand who can't accept that there are other products out there which do a job way better than Apple's products.
Is it any wonder that Apple's share price went down by 5% last night upon the announcement of the iLame 4S. If a product was announced that was supposedly revolutionary ended up being a huge pile of crap, as an investor, I'd be royally pissed off and sell my shares!
As for the iLame thing, don't blame me, blame the TV station in NYC that called the new iPhone that!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1239842/ (Thread in it's mentioned that a local TV station in NYC called it iLame! On another note, according to the New York Daily News, one analyst said that the iLame was basically an iLame 4, but with an A5 processor replacing the current one)
Face facts, mi amigo, the new iLame is called that for a valid reason and no amounts of whinging from the Apple trolls will change that!
Surely you can understand why people are willing to not upgrade to an iLame 4S if it isn't what they expected to be at the end of the day.
Yes, there are phones that are pieces of crap like one or two Android phones and a few Windows Phones, but at least they do their job.
As I said, I'm proud to be an Android fanboy instead of being an iLame Sheeple who'd buy it because of the brand name rather than specs alone.
I have no problem with people who buy the phone because it does the job that they want it to, but at the same time, I don't like trolls who whinge and whine and moan just because they know that there are phones out there that are way superior and try everything to prove that the people who are telling the truth are liars.
As Voltaire once famously said; "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
Whether you like it or not, there are people out there and on these very forums who agree with what I say that the 4S isn't as revolutionary as Apple make it out to be. To be honest, these days, Apple's announcements seem to be all smoke and mirrors more than anything!
Finally, as for your phones, I guess you got lucky, especially with the iLame 4! I wouldn't want a phone that couldn't get a signal as well as being insulted by Steve Jobs who claimed the reason why the phone couldn't make and take calls was because it was being held the wrong way! Talk about a Ratner moment there! (Google up "ratner moment" if you don't know what I'm talking about)
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What are you talking about?
The Company's iPhone release history shows a clear pattern of every other release being more evolution, than revolution.
Apple made no false promises, it was just rampant pre-announcement wild @ss speculation.
People are saying its about the money. They just shelled out an incremental release to profit.
When I say they care, I mean they care to give us nerdgasms. Think back, the MacBook Pro, the iMac, the accessories, the iPhone, the iPad, the designs, the boundary pushing...
In the past they were breaking boundaries and inventing paradigms when there was no precedent.
With the 3G and the 3GS, it was a matter of technology not existing yet so they made the best with what was available. The chips and the batteries.
Today we know what can be done because other companies have shown us.
A simple upgrade is not OK because there is a level of precedent set in todays market.
So if they wanted to wow us like they have in the past, they would have had to make the next reasonable step after all this time.
2008 - Wowed us.
2009 - Wowed us.
2010 - Wowed us.
2011 - Dissapointed us.
Thats the pattern people are talking about. Relative to whats going on with other competitors, it was not the goodies we expected.