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Apple boys can justify and explain all they want, but the bottom line from someone who knows Apple history well, what they value and what they do... there's no excuse for this screw up.
That said, the good news is that no company is perfect and Apple was overdue for a good screw up anyway.
The other great aspect of this is it opens the door wider for the competition, the journalists, and bloggers as well, to call out Apple and take some market share. While it may be too small to be more than a blip on the radar, just the opportunity is a very nice advantage that they will not waste.
Finally I do hope that Apple ends up with enough mud on their face to really get serious and make the next iPhone as good as I know they are capable of.
Just think of the great opportunity they just wasted. Had Apple produced a killer 4" iPhone with a gorgeous new design, they would have lept ahead of the competition so far, they would have truly demoralized them.
But alas Apple blew it, and if your not grown up enough to accept that...you have no clue anyway.
That said, the good news is that no company is perfect and Apple was overdue for a good screw up anyway.
The other great aspect of this is it opens the door wider for the competition, the journalists, and bloggers as well, to call out Apple and take some market share. While it may be too small to be more than a blip on the radar, just the opportunity is a very nice advantage that they will not waste.
Finally I do hope that Apple ends up with enough mud on their face to really get serious and make the next iPhone as good as I know they are capable of.
Just think of the great opportunity they just wasted. Had Apple produced a killer 4" iPhone with a gorgeous new design, they would have lept ahead of the competition so far, they would have truly demoralized them.
But alas Apple blew it, and if your not grown up enough to accept that...you have no clue anyway.
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I am pretty sure you don't know what the word revolutionary means. It is also clear that more android users are moving to iOS w the 4s right now than will shift because of the nexus prime and the like.
The entire android environment is in trouble.
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I am pretty sure you don't know what the word revolutionary means. It is also clear that more android users are moving to iOS w the 4s right now than will shift because of the nexus prime and the like.
The entire android environment is in trouble.
All I can say is that when I blow it, I hope I blow it like Apple did. I could use a few extra billion dollars in my bank account....
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Apples goal was to make the best smartphone in the world. By that criteria they did not blow it at all.
LapsangSouchong said:Seems to be a different definition of "blew it". One that means: Apple didn't do what the rumors said they would.....and...AT&T has its STRONGEST 12 hour sales period for an iPhone EVER! 200,000 units...in 12 hours.
Apple blew it, indeed.
Apples goal was to make the best smartphone in the world. By that criteria they did not blow it at all.
Couldn't be farther from the truth. Even as awesome as the iPhone 4 was when launched, and the records it's shattered as far as sales, Android marketshare was unphased and continued to grow at a nice pace. The 4S is definitely not going to change that trend, at all. Galaxy SII sales are incredible and Samsung is actually on pace to overtake Apple as the worlds #1 smartphone vendor soon. As a matter of fact the iPhone 4S will hurt RIM more than anyone.
There is more than enough room for both Android and iOS to exist. I don't see that changing anytime in the near future.
Thank you for the sanity. Android will do fine. Many people like it a lot. iOS will do very fine. Two OS's and two good products. I prefer iOS and the ecosystem but Android will do fine. this doesn't have to be flame war.
Exactly. People act like there is only room for one platform, or that having a nice alternative is a bad thing. I love Apple but hoping for the competition to fail is just ignorant thinking. It benefits nobody and really only serves to make the lone remaining choice complacent and reluctant to make any changes or improvements.
Some of us just act like it's a Mac forum. And we're here to talk about Apple products. And sometimes we get tired of being called "fanboys"
Some of us just act like it's a Mac forum. And we're here to talk about Apple products. And sometimes we get tired of being called "fanboys"
Read that again and then decide if it made any sense or not.
+1. Android is "revolutionary" when all they add is the latest nerdgasm-inducing hardware and a bigger screen with each update. Apple may not have lept over the competition hardware wise but they positioned themselves very aggressively because of the updated hardware and more importantly the OS and user experience, which is worlds above android's. Not to mention Android wouldn't be who/where they are today without the iPhone.
1) Seeing as the makers of the phones have NOTHING to do with the software, that first point makes no sense. It's like blaming Acer for Windows 7.
2) How did they position themselves aggressively because of the updated hardware? They're catching up to the competition.
1) Seeing as the makers of the phones have NOTHING to do with the software, that first point makes no sense. It's like blaming Acer for Windows 7.
2) How did they position themselves aggressively because of the updated hardware? They're catching up to the competition.
You have to understand that they only release 1 phone a year. 1. That means they HAVE to come big. Have to. We are going to have quad core Android phones next year, with the first being released this year, overseas.
It's easy to say they're doing great now, but by next spring or at CES next year, you'll be talking about the hardware in face of people talking about quad core phones with 1.5/2 gigs of RAM and 8mp cameras as well. With larger displays. [Don't throw the retina display card out instantly; USE the phone for yourself and see what is better. It's one thing to state "omg retina crisp" without even looking at the Super Amoled + display, which is amazing.
Yeah, I wish I could fail like Apple. Selling out each revision faster each time it's released.
So... it's ok to be biased and closed minded just because you're on a forum that is oriented towards one side?
And there are Android phones out now with faster processors and whatever megapixels then the iPhone 4 and yet it still manages to be a better phone. The 4S will do more than just tide Apple over for the next generation.
How so? Keep in mind that it's entirely your opinion, and, because of this, our arguments are only as strong as the opinions we form about them.
But that point does not address what I was saying before: that you have to look towards the future; don't just look at what's in front of you.
A better phone how exactly? Better voice quality? Faster data access? More storage space? I don't think so. The iPhones advantage is Apples ecosystem of hardware and apps. That has nothing to do with the iPhone itself being a "better" phone. Take the ecosystem away, and it probably wouldn't rank among the top 10 smartphones...
Okay, maybe not the top 5....
At the end of the day, Apple has one phone vs a ton of android phones, yet Android has to fight stay on top in market share. If that's not enough to know which phone is the beast, I dont know what to tell u.
You speak of looking towards the future. I'm no psychic, but my guess is that eventually Apple will decide to have more than just one phone with updated features in the game at one time and when they do, things can only get stickier for the competition.
What's crazy to me is the fact that the 3G and 3GS sold better than many of the androids put together. The are iPhones with what most consider outdated specs. That says a lot about the OS, ecosystem, and the trust people have in Apple the company. No other company can say this.
It's not just a cool factor that's loosing Apple to dominate. It's more to it.
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One of Androids biggest failures is their lack of fart apps. Everyone knows the thrills that fart apps give iPhone owners. There's so many varieties that there's something for everyone in this fan club. Another app that's missing from the Android store are the sexual position apps. It how Apple users learn their way around.
On one hand Apple played the puritanical anti porn company. So prudish the phone resists spelling the word hell. On the other hand, after bragging how holy they were and how tough the approval process is to insure the best apps. Apple censors still approved all these so called sexual education apps. Someone's conflicted in the walled garden. Although I find fart apps crude & disgusting, they are highly prized amongst the Apple clan. There's some interesting dynamics at work at Infinite Loop. It's probably in the water. Apple loves to point fingers.
On one hand Apple played the puritanical anti porn company. So prudish the phone resists spelling the word hell. On the other hand, after bragging how holy they were and how tough the approval process is to insure the best apps. Apple censors still approved all these so called sexual education apps. Someone's conflicted in the walled garden. Although I find fart apps crude & disgusting, they are highly prized amongst the Apple clan. There's some interesting dynamics at work at Infinite Loop. It's probably in the water. Apple loves to point fingers.