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Apple Blocks Adobe's Flash-to-iPhone Compiler in Latest SDK Agreement
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You guys still don't get it. This is all about ads and Apple not wanting Google to monetize the iPhone for themselves. This is what iAd is all about.
Thats part of the reason why they are so bloated and having trouble innovating these days.
Even if these guys want to be in every business, sometimes it just isn't always feasible. Steve is only one man.
Remember a few years back when Apple decided they wanted to be Bose with the Apple Hi-Fi. It didn't work out too well.
Of course I guess you could make a counter point with MS with the Xbox but honestly the hardware in the Xbox isn't that great.
I guess what I mean to say is that each of these companies has a core set of strengths and if they try to expand into an area that doesn't fit those strengths, they most likely won't be successful.
It's the same old story with some of you...
You complained when Apple killed ADB for USB. You cried when the floppy drive disappeared. You grit your teeth when booting into Classic was nixed. You kicked and screamed when Metrowerks Codewarrior was rendered unnecessary. You held candlelight vigils for your local independent dealer when an Apple Store opened in your city.
If you want to be on the bleeding edge, you better prepare yourself for a few cuts.
Five years from now -- write this down -- Flash will be sipping lattes with HTML 2.0 and Pointcast Network at the WWW retirement home.
I was right about the iPad, and I'm right about this.
You complained when Apple killed ADB for USB. You cried when the floppy drive disappeared. You grit your teeth when booting into Classic was nixed. You kicked and screamed when Metrowerks Codewarrior was rendered unnecessary. You held candlelight vigils for your local independent dealer when an Apple Store opened in your city.
If you want to be on the bleeding edge, you better prepare yourself for a few cuts.
Five years from now -- write this down -- Flash will be sipping lattes with HTML 2.0 and Pointcast Network at the WWW retirement home.
I was right about the iPad, and I'm right about this.
AdobeLESS
I'm so sick of Adobe and making bloatware and crap. I have no Adobe products on my system, and only Silverlight (Netflix) from Microsoft. I find that my computing time is better spent without software from those two companies.
I'm so sick of Adobe and making bloatware and crap. I have no Adobe products on my system, and only Silverlight (Netflix) from Microsoft. I find that my computing time is better spent without software from those two companies.
What if Adobe open-sourced flash? That's what I would do if I were running Adobe. I'm surprised no one's mentioned this possibility yet.
There is a large percentage of internet ads that do not have flash. For people who have flash turned off, it is most of them. So doing this does not really keep ads off the browsing experience.
Again, like I noted above, not really a big deal. Flash does not relate to iAd in any particular way or create any kind of hurdle or obstacle or useful competition for advertising.
Crap. I gotta download, install, and get used to Gimp again. Because Adobe is going to halt the mac release of the next version of photoshop
I was thinking the same thing. Woes me.
I use photoshop but I have disdain for Adobe. I use lots of google products and have disdain for them. I just don't get myself sometimes.
I have had nothing but problems with CS3 when I upgraded to 10.6.3. Most CS3 apps crash shortly after launching. Adobe knows of the problem. It seems to be related to mac pros and serial numbers.
It sounds like c$%^&p to me that is related to their rotten activation copy protection scheme.
If they did that, they might as well make a set of tools or integrate HTML5 tools into Dream Weaver....
In which case, Flash would still die.
Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about the CPU but the Red Ring of Death sadly still exists. Microsoft's core strength isn't in designing hardware. At least IMO...
Apple now faces the possibility of a lawsuit from Adobe citing violations of the Clayton Antitrust Act over this, in my humble opinion.
The majority of people on this site worship Steve Jobs, don't kid yourself. Some of the posters kiss Apple's and Steve Jobs' asses so much, I don't know where those end and the posters begin.
Because including a Blu-Ray Drive in the XBOX 360 would fragment the market. Common sense 101. You'd have past users with DVD-ROM drives, new users with Blu-Ray drivers, and developers who wouldn't know which format to use. If Sega taught us anything from the 90s, it was that fragmenting your developer base via add-ons is a road to failure.
That's nice. Where can we all sign up to sue Adobe over CPU power sucking and fan burning out software like Flash player?
Yesterdays friends are todays enemies... using so called 'strength' to cover up a your own weakness; if HTML5 is really going to do well, which I belief it will eventually, then why make this move?
Okay, then developers are required to accept the new terms before submitting a new app, even if they only want to target iPOS3. Well, that shuts down my idea, then.
This is a brain-dead move in my opinion. Why should Apple care what language an app is built in? They shouldn't, as it doesn't necessarily have any impact on the interface of an app. They just want to block Adobe, which is a petty thing to do. I hate Flash as much as the next guy, heck even the CS nonsense, but this is taking things too far.
Only thing Apple is doing, is stifling innovation on their platform. It only hurts them in the long run. Unity might be safe for now, but who knows what Apple will decide later. With nonsense like this they might even deprecate Xcode some time in the future and force everyone onto their next best framework. That just sucks.
If they want to scare people away from developing apps, this is a great way to go about it.
Only thing Apple is doing, is stifling innovation on their platform. It only hurts them in the long run. Unity might be safe for now, but who knows what Apple will decide later. With nonsense like this they might even deprecate Xcode some time in the future and force everyone onto their next best framework. That just sucks.
If they want to scare people away from developing apps, this is a great way to go about it.
C, C++, and Objective C aren't proprietary. Everyone has these conspiracy theories about locking out flash for app revenue, and monopolizing markets. The truth is, they have high standards. Sometimes they lock out a group or people, but that's how they move forward. Apple is a company that doesn't do much legacy support, whereas Microsoft is one that does.
Apple has the balls to jump ship from technology A to technology B. Sometimes they throw in a life-raft like Rosetta, but even that is rare. But that has allowed them to phase out PPC completely. MS is plagued by supporting 15+ years of crap. They can't even change their file system because it would break too many things with backwards compatibility.
If you want to be on the cutting edge with Apple you might get burned, but we all get burned somewhere along the line.
I was just about to start work porting a large productivity app over to the iPhone OS with MonoTouch. Now, thanks to Apple and it's new super-fascistic developer license agreement, it looks like this will not be happening. There is simply no way we are going to rewrite the entire codebase just to get it running on the iPhone. It just isn't economically viable.
I really don't care about Flash but disallowing any static compilers on the platform is just plain crazy. Other than for Job's petty vendetta what possible reason could there be for this?
I really don't care about Flash but disallowing any static compilers on the platform is just plain crazy. Other than for Job's petty vendetta what possible reason could there be for this?
Given that they have a monopoly position consisting of, what?, nearly 2% of the cell phone market? Hardly.
Walmart has a far larger market share in nearly everything, and has no problems carrying only house brands of some items, as well as censored music CDs and magazines.
FWIW: The developers of TIFFany [CaffeineSoft] who saw a lot of their ideas merge into Photoshop work at Apple.
Apple has the Graphics App talent pros to write their own, if they want to do so.
Wow, I wonder if Apple's goal is to become more evil than Microsoft... Sure, Steve wants to be a trendsetter (Firewire, HTML5) and thus imposes his will on us, no matter if we like it or not.
I mean seriously, why the hell would you even add that paragraph to the contract? Why would Apple care if the software's code is generated by a tool or written by hand in Objective C...
I kinda hope that Adobe will sue, but Apple would probably end up putting a "feature" in Mac OS X 10.6.4 that hinders us from installing Photoshop.
Very disappointed at Apple, but who knows, Steve is not really "the picture of health" and he might want to make the world just a little bit worse before he leaves the stage for the last time.
I mean seriously, why the hell would you even add that paragraph to the contract? Why would Apple care if the software's code is generated by a tool or written by hand in Objective C...
I kinda hope that Adobe will sue, but Apple would probably end up putting a "feature" in Mac OS X 10.6.4 that hinders us from installing Photoshop.
Very disappointed at Apple, but who knows, Steve is not really "the picture of health" and he might want to make the world just a little bit worse before he leaves the stage for the last time.