You don't get it. He's actually Bill Gates. He has too much money to work, and other than his charitable organization he's got a lot of time to kill. Being retired at 56 is boring. What else is he going to do but troll Apple-related forums?
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Apple 'Blown Away' by iPhone 5 Pre-Orders
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You don't get it. He's actually Bill Gates. He has too much money to work, and other than his charitable organization he's got a lot of time to kill. Being retired at 56 is boring. What else is he going to do but troll Apple-related forums?
More than the 4S. Numbers will likely be released on Monday for the weekend sales.
So everything you say is "fact" huh? And anyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid eh? Anyone who thinks that their ***** doesn't stick is an arrogant prick who probably couldn't be reasoned with in the first place.
The only thing you said that was true is that Steve is gone. Aside from that, it was all just some opinionated blather. I see things far differently from you, and I'm far from stupid.
1) It has been reported that Steve was involved in the early phases of iPhone 5. So while he may be gone, he had input into THIS iteration of the product. Regardless, Steve wasn't the only one working at Apple. He hired a team of geniuses and visionaries that he molded in his own vision to work there. While his absence will surely mean things at Apple have changed, it doesn't mean the company took a 180 degree turn for the sh**ter either. Suggesting otherwise is pure ignorance.
2) The iPhone 4 and 4S style was hardly "perfect" -- its a nice design. A REALLY nice design. I love mine. I don't think its perfect, though, and would prefer something with a bigger screen (not just taller). That's just me though. Regardless, LOADS of people love the form factor. To make it thinner and lighter doesn't suddenly ruin it. Its a fantastic refinement, and frankly brings it closer to perfect than before. I happen to like the darkened bands on the black version. Kinda sexy. Far from "really ugly" and certainly no joke.
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I don't know what to tell you. By the definition of luxury good, it qualifies. Real economists consider the iPhone to be a luxury good. It's marketed as one and considered by many of its users to be one. The Apple brand is considered to be a luxury brand.
Luxury is affected by price, but it is not solely about price, and certainly not in absolute terms. The iPhone costs more than most competitors, anyway, when you take away the subsidies, which is why the carriers try to push the cheaper alternatives in their stores. Every way you look at it, the iPhone is a luxury item. The fact that so many people can afford to own one, is part of why it's so popular, especially in these harder economic times.
My point, if you go way back to what I was talking about at the start of this thread, was in response to somebody saying the iPhone's success somehow argues against this being a recession. My point was that in a recession, luxury items still sell well, because people like to have nice things when they can't spend their money on stuff like going out to fancy dinners and a lot of fleeting entertainment.
I really did not expect to find people arguing about whether or not the iPhone is a luxury item. I've never heard it described as anything but. In precise terms, the iPhone is unquestionably a luxury item. You don't need it, there are inferior but acceptable cheaper alternatives, and it presents itself as a higher quality item in the market and commands a premium for the brand.
Exactly the blue prints were released and the Copyright date listed on the blue print was 2010, so Steve jobs did in fact work on the iPhone 5. http://i.imgur.com/97xO5.jpg
Speak for yourself -- I do probably a third of my business on my iPhone. It makes me tens of thousands of dollars a year, easily. It would be difficult to imagine doing business without it. Surprise surprise, not everyone on this forum is in school, just 95%...
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I really want to know how NFC could be realistically be implemented today in a way that would actually be useful. Your credit card having NFC is one thing. A phone having an NFC chip that can be adaptive and change its propose moment to moment with different credit card info, loyalty club info, etc. etc. would require standards to be in place that are simply not yet in existence. For any other phone with NFC on the market, just how many credit card companies support it? One? How many OTHER uses for it are there? Looks to me like on day 1, PassBook will have DOZENS of uses for everything from stored value cards like Starbucks, all the way up to movie tickets, loyalty clubs, train and airfare tickets, retail coupons, you name it. All using already-ubiquitous barcode and QR code scanners that are already everywhere! How this is not 1000 times for useful than NFC TODAY really confuses me. NFC will be great at some point for this stuff, but it will take years to get there. Passbook literally solves all of those issues TODAY.
Mark my words, Passbook is the killer app. in iOS 6, and in a couple of years, you won't remember having that collection of plastic barcode tags hanging off of your keychain, or using paper tickets to get onto airplanes.
Have you sen how much they are selling for on eBay already? It's tempting to put mine up then buy another and sit out the 2 week wait.
Apple messed up
It appears that someone at Apple was not thinking the entire process through for the pre-order system. The system allows you to select Sprint as your carrier but fails to warn you that the Apple Store can not process the order directly because you need to go to a Sprint or go to Sprint online to process an order.
Instead it removed the item from the cart that I was ordering (a 64 gb black model), said some charge needed to be accessed, and i need to go to a physical Apple store to resolve. I had woken at 3 am EST to order it and then had to wait till my local Apple Store opened at 10 a.m. When I asked the Apple rep at the physical store why the pre-order system did not allow me to place the order, i was told that Apple can not enter Sprint orders directly. They have to contact Sprint itself to place the order.
So someone at Apple screwed up big time and did not take this into account when designing the webpage. I finally managed to create an account at the Sprint online site and ordered the phone but the fact that Apple could have simply informed that they have to redirect you to the Sprint store to place the order never occurred to whoever designed the pre-order web page.
This is just so hard to believe that for a corporation that prides itself on design that they could forget something so important like this. I wanted to get Sprint as my carrier so that i can have unlimited everything.
Nice going Apple. If Steve was still around, he find the person who screwed up and fire them.
It appears that someone at Apple was not thinking the entire process through for the pre-order system. The system allows you to select Sprint as your carrier but fails to warn you that the Apple Store can not process the order directly because you need to go to a Sprint or go to Sprint online to process an order.
Instead it removed the item from the cart that I was ordering (a 64 gb black model), said some charge needed to be accessed, and i need to go to a physical Apple store to resolve. I had woken at 3 am EST to order it and then had to wait till my local Apple Store opened at 10 a.m. When I asked the Apple rep at the physical store why the pre-order system did not allow me to place the order, i was told that Apple can not enter Sprint orders directly. They have to contact Sprint itself to place the order.
So someone at Apple screwed up big time and did not take this into account when designing the webpage. I finally managed to create an account at the Sprint online site and ordered the phone but the fact that Apple could have simply informed that they have to redirect you to the Sprint store to place the order never occurred to whoever designed the pre-order web page.
This is just so hard to believe that for a corporation that prides itself on design that they could forget something so important like this. I wanted to get Sprint as my carrier so that i can have unlimited everything.
Nice going Apple. If Steve was still around, he find the person who screwed up and fire them.
I really wonder which "gate" do we get this time
iPhone 4: antennagate
iPhone 4S: batterygate
iPhone 5: ...
complaintgate
disappointment-as-usual-gate
why-it-doesn't-have-feature-X-gate
Market leader in markert number sold is nice. Market leader in mobile profits is better.
UK iPhone Black Preparing for Shipment....
I managed to preorder UK time on the iPhone App Store and yesterday evening it went to preparing for dispatch. Not sure if that means it's coming from China or whether it will just be held in the UK until nearer the 21st. Anyway not trying to rub it in if anyone else hasn't had there order changed yet. For what its worth I will likely have the phone but not a nano sim thanks to Vodafone being Vodafone!
Good luck everyone with your orders too.
Rob
I managed to preorder UK time on the iPhone App Store and yesterday evening it went to preparing for dispatch. Not sure if that means it's coming from China or whether it will just be held in the UK until nearer the 21st. Anyway not trying to rub it in if anyone else hasn't had there order changed yet. For what its worth I will likely have the phone but not a nano sim thanks to Vodafone being Vodafone!
Good luck everyone with your orders too.
Rob
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I agree that they make a ton of stuff, but here are my two gripes: (1) out of all of their phones, the ones that made the most name for themselves were 'inspired' from Apple and iOS. You must have seen that in the recently ended court case; and (2) their products don't breathe quality. You cannot take a plastic Samsung phone in your hand and compare it to a 'carefully built Leica camera' or 'finely crafted watch', as it is done with the iPhone.
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Are you high or something?
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Hah. Nice find
New iPhone 5S For Free
You don't have to be a rabid fan to do this without it costing you a single penny. Sell your 4S on eBay for just under $400, pay the early termination fee, pay $200 for your new 5S, and pocket the difference.
You don't have to be a rabid fan to do this without it costing you a single penny. Sell your 4S on eBay for just under $400, pay the early termination fee, pay $200 for your new 5S, and pocket the difference.
They announced the numbers for the 4S on the Monday after it went on sale (on a Friday too). So wait until Monday for the shock and awe.
It wasn't a press release. It was in response to a query from AllThingsD. Minor point maybe, but they didn't just go tooting their own horn from out of the blue. They were answering a question put to them by a well-known web site.
I'm happy for everyone who successfully pre-ordered.
Unfortunately I have to wait until they release the unlocked iPhone in 3-4 weeks.
Can't wait for hands on reviews - this phone should be wickedly fast with that A6 processor!
Unfortunately I have to wait until they release the unlocked iPhone in 3-4 weeks.
Can't wait for hands on reviews - this phone should be wickedly fast with that A6 processor!
You know why people would buy anything Apple, sight unseen? Because of their track record at producing quality products that work well. If everything you bought from company XYZ blew you away, you would come to expect that the next XYZ product would do the same. It's pretty simple really.
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The total volume may count for you, but for Apple I would think what counts is how successful their new product is in terms of what it adds to their bottom line. Apple totally owns the profit in smartphones, making many times more than any of its competitors, and making more profit than the total cell phone industry combined. And their market share percentage is in the low double digits. Isn't that how you measure success, and isn't that what really counts?
Same goes for finance. Shorting supply to make the cost of a product go up is one thing. Shorting supply to create hype/PR is deceiving investors and people go to jail for that kind of business/marketing practice because that is indirectly manipulating the value of the company.
Use some common sense, people. Apple is not pulling the wool over anybody's eyes just so that the lines are longer outside the stores. At the end of the fiscal quarter they are required to disclose their numbers to the investors. They are accountable for any deception in sales numbers and inventory.
Typically Apple releases a new version of iOS when they release a new iPhone once a year (seems it will be each fall now, but that hasn't always been the case). You'll hear all about it at WWDC, which is typically in June, and they'll announce what products will be supported. The pattern seems to be fairly predictable: any product still being sold when the announcement is made will be supported. This will get you three or four generations of iPhones, perhaps two or three iPads, though the iPad line is still fairly young and more of them may be supported going further. The iPod Touch is probably the least supported line because it's basically using old iPhone hardware, but you'll get the last couple generations.
Now with the over-the-air delta updates, upgrading iOS could not be easier. Just go into your settings, hit Software Update. In a few minutes you'll have the latest and greatest, so long as you're not using a device more than three years old.
A few iOS features won't be supported on every device, but that's to be expected. No cell network stuff on devices without cell networks, or using of sensors on devices without those sensors...
I think you'll really enjoy the ecosystem, if you have any other Apple devices. If you don't have any other Apple devices, it won't be long now I'm sure, wahahaha!
But seriously, only Microsoft is really in the same position as Apple to have their software on all of your devices. Critics call it lock-in, but there are significant advantages. Having been spoiled by Mac OS X and iOS working together so well (not to mention stuff like Airplay, Apple TV, etc.), if Apple suddenly went out of business, I wouldn't go to Android, I'd go to an all-Windows/XBox solution. I wouldn't like it as much, but it'd be better than having such a disjointed experience straddling multiple platforms.
The haters are certainly a remarkable phenomenon. I like Apple products, but I don't seek out dedicated sites for other platforms and try to tear them down or just talk endlessly about Apple products being better. I'd rather spend my free time on more positive pursuits, and let other people use the sorts of products they enjoy in peace. All I can figure is there's some insecurity there, but where it's comes from I have no idea.
Anyway, welcome to iOS! I'm not getting the latest iPhone, but it certainly looks quite nice and I hope you enjoy it.
Went down like this:
I'd been making ROMs for android devices for quite sometime and was running a Motorola Xoom. I was waiting and waiting for an upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwitch when the iPad 3 came out. It just looked awesome so I went and got one. It was love at first sight. For the most part it was the build quality, weight and thickness of the device that sold me. As I started using it more and more I was shocked at how much nicer the apps were compared to android apps, they are much more mature.
After that I had to have a MacBook/iMac. Then I felt the wife needed a MacBook Air. I wanted Apple TV you can see were this is going. Other than the onslaught of teenage android BS because android users are immature I've loved all of it. Once you use a Mac it's hard to go back to cheap plastic computers.
So I'm leaving a lot of my android friends behind, it's gonna be a whole new life for me on the iPhone. I will be spending a lot less time developing on android and more time on something more useful. It's really the developers that make android work. I'm sure like me over time they too will get tired of carrying Google on their backs..