Apple Buys 50 Business Class Seats From San Francisco to Shanghai Every Day

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  1. neutrino23 macrumors 68000

    Feb 14, 2003
    SF Bay area
    It’s odd, but United is my favorite airline. I guess the large airlines (United, American, Delta) rank poorly simply because of their size. They carry a huge number of occasional travelers and some have bad experiences. Boutique airlines can treat people better because they only run a few flights. Flag carriers like Singapore Air get subsidized so they can splurge.

    If you are a frequent flier on a major carrier they treat you well. I’m sure the Apple employees get treated well. I’ve flown about 2,5M miles on United. For the most part the experience is good. Part of this is because I know how the system works and plan accordingly.

    Apple certainly gets a discount for buying a block of seats like this so it may not be that expensive for them. They probably don’t fill all these seats everyday.

    If Apple has a thousand or so engineers and managers visiting China once a month that would fill Most of those seats. Apple must have over a thousand projects ongoing to cover all the subassemblies for all the products they sell, not to mention research on future products and components.

    I used to make trips like this a lot. Nothing beats face-to-face communication on an important project. You can fill in a lot things with email and such, but once a quarter or so you have to meet people. It helps immensely to see a production line to get a feel for things or to get acquainted with the people you swap emails and documents with.
  2. thasan macrumors 6502a

    Oct 19, 2007
    They have a small presence in Cambridge. Not sure whether they have other sites.
  3. ani4ani macrumors 6502a

    May 4, 2012
    Well if the statistics are true...average ticket price $8K per could nearly get a good Mac Pro for that, if they made a good one.
  4. Bacillus, Jan 12, 2019
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    Bacillus Suspended


    Jun 25, 2009
    Company policy is that you’re free to hike - in your own time
  5. cableguy84, Jan 12, 2019
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    cableguy84 macrumors 65816


    Sep 7, 2015
    ARM is british and is located in the UK.
    Apple designs chips based off ARM designs so i imagine they work together quite closely?
  6. 0014 macrumors 6502a


    May 23, 2016
    Middle East
    I think he means creative juices for the BS he spouts when doing a voice over for a product!
  7. paulCIA macrumors newbie


    May 23, 2018
    New York
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    At least Steve had some tact about it. And really stuck it to the board when they appointed a sugar-water salesman to replace him. More than Tim will ever do for the company. He might have better luck in sugar-water sales.
  8. buckyballs macrumors regular

    Dec 22, 2006
    * Apple have an engineering office in Cambridge for Siri
    * Imagination (who used to make the GPUs for iPhone and iPads) are based in Hertfordshire (near London)
    * The office where Apple poached all of Imaginations key staff is in Hertfordshire (near London) Source
    * Most music licensing deals are dealt with in London
    * ARM (who design the iPhone/iPad instruction set) are based in Cambridge

    Whilst they don't have huge customer-facing presence in the UK, it shows how many people are required to build their products
  9. partsofspeech macrumors regular


    Apr 6, 2018
    A shift from crativity to crime-activity
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    Skype and Group Facetime is are for unwitted customers. Jet-flight-enabled meeting is for Apple managers. We need a calculator app for CO2 per flight.
  10. bobob macrumors 68030


    Jan 11, 2008
    Which specific aspects of Apple's environmental policies are BS talking points?
  11. AppleHaterLover macrumors 65816

    Jun 15, 2018
    Working for a trillion-dollar corporation and being forced to be a Premier 1K and suffer through 2-4-2 business class flights.

    The horror !!!!!
  12. justperry macrumors G3


    Aug 10, 2007
    In the core of a black hole.
    United Airlines, the worst airline I flew with, once, never again.
    Plenty of (much) better to chose from, Singapore Airlines-Malaysian Airlines (Yes, it's really good)- Eva Air-KLM-Lufthansa-Emirates amongst others, but I myself mostly used Asian Airlines, flew lots with Malaysian air, too bad they shot down one of their planes and within a short time they lost a plane never to be found again until now.
  13. monaarts macrumors 65816

    Jan 16, 2010
    Kennesaw, GA
    First, I’m guessing it’s not literally 50 a day but rather an average. Monday might be 30 but Tuesday is 60. Second, I wouldn’t be surprised if they do, that’s only 0.03% of their employees flying there every day - really not that much.
  14. maxgts macrumors regular


    Jul 16, 2013
    Sunnyvale, CA
    Why are they flying so many employees back and forth every single day? Why not just have permanent staff at each location and reduce flying days to one or twice a week? I imagine Tim Cook collects all the airline miles.
  15. [AUT] Thomas macrumors 6502

    Mar 13, 2016
    Graz [Austria]
    My thoughts... Seriously... WHY? I can't imagine why one would fly United or Delta when there's a better alternative. So, basically, anything international. Frankly, whenever I book flights to the US I pay very close attention to make sure "operated by" says Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, KLM, AirFrance (...) but not an US airline.
  16. WatchFromAfar macrumors 65816


    Jan 26, 2017
    What non-sense; firstly no-one has ever said Samsung designs iPhone displays. They manufacture them to Apple's specifications on their machines, run by their people in their factories.

    Or do you really believe Apple owns manufacturing factories, staffed by Apple employees renting machines from Samsung to produce iPhone screens?

    I can't tell if you're just troilling.....
  17. lah macrumors 6502

    Mar 22, 2010
    That is correct. With that kind of revenue, they are definitely getting a substantial discount on the business class fare. They probably have some type of agreement where they pay to block off seats on flights daily - so that if an employee needs to travel last minute, it will not be a problem.
  18. nebo1ss macrumors 68030

    Jun 2, 2010
    Probably transit London to get to Ireland.
  19. jp1261987 macrumors newbie

    Aug 2, 2018
    Also it’s equivalent of someone making $100k a year spending $57 on gas.

    This is a trivial number for them. Also based on the numbers they provide which I assume is bi-directional seats (25 each way) and averaged over the course of the year. They are paying $2k per seat per way. Which is actually a really good deal. As someone who flies ewr-hkg all the time it’s hard to find fares under $8k round trip.
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    Iconoclysm macrumors 68020


    May 13, 2010
    Washington, DC
    "Oh, it's Apple"? You are aware that you're on an Apple focused forum, right?
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    Right, it's probably 50 a week.
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    These aren't private planes, they're on a schedule and going to fly with or without Apple employees on board. It's like complaining that taking the bus is worse than taking a car.
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    One of my co-workers died that way on a flight to Australia for work.
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    Do you know of any companies going out of their way to plan in the UK post Brexit by travelling to the UK?
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    What you really mean is: you HEAR they are wasting so much energy by right wing media looking to scandalize these two.
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    I absolutely hate United but they aren't the actual crappiest airline
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    Right, United marketing materials are evidence of truth?
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    If your money is actually hard earned, you might want to buy cheaper products. These aren't taxes, you choose what to buy.
  21. Rojaaemon macrumors regular

    Aug 27, 2016
    Something is going on. I suspect they're rewarding employees by sending their families to Shanghai Disney Resort.
  22. sipodjr macrumors newbie


    Jan 17, 2018
    or just buy your own plane and full time pilot.
  23. ender78 macrumors 6502

    Jan 9, 2005
    Spending a few minutes on Expedia, only three airlines fly direct from SFO to PVG (China East Airlines, Delta and United).
  24. AppleHaterLover macrumors 65816

    Jun 15, 2018
    If I were making mid six-figures and working for Apple I wouldn't want to live in Shanghai.
  25. jshapnyc macrumors member

    Jan 15, 2008
    The “Apple should own a fleet” people are hilarious. “Buy some Gulfstreams.” Lol. Do you people have any idea what the range is of a typical business Jet? You can’t get a third of the way to Asia from SFO.

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