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This fact seems to escape most of the posters here, who seem to think Anything apple wants to do is immediate gold in comparison to others.

Simple fact: The city decided that they would like to preserve the building for heritage purposes. Apple can either work within the confines of that existing building, or leave.

Just because you (general posters) think the building is ugly is completely and utterly irrelevant to the conversation. The City has deemed it a heritage site due to their own reasons and they are perfectly entitled to do so, whether there was 1 protester, or a million. Sitting here a world away claiming that because the building is ugly apple should have the right to destroy it, is pretty telling about how you formulate your opinions, and that's "whatever Apple tells me".

we all likely have buildings that have some historic value (even if they're not that old, age itself doesn't necessarily equate to historic value). We all likely have buildings we'd rather not see torn down just to put another store in in our hometowns/cities. Just try using some empathy for a change instead of just hating on anything that doesn't give Apple their way.

The City has an obligation first and foremost to its citizens. It should not be preserving buildings it feels are worthy of being preserved due to its "own reasons" even if there is only "1 protester."

There is nothing historic or significant about an abysmal-looking building that is barely 15 years old.
 
The City has an obligation first and foremost to its citizens. It should not be preserving buildings it feels are worthy of being preserved due to its "own reasons" even if there is only "1 protester."

There is nothing historic or significant about an abysmal-looking building that is barely 15 years old.

the city has decided for it's citizens to preserve the building.

should the citizens desire something else, than they, through their elected representatives can petition and discuss with those representatives their opinions on the matter.

Australia is a representative democracy after all. your opinion sounds like just because it's not 100+ years old, than nobody should be allowed to consider it heritage and therefore it's free game for business to tell municipalities what buildings should be torn down.

that is NOT a winning position in most of the world. if A Municipality decides to preserve a building, it is businesses who must adapt and go elsewhere.

Business does not trump government in a lot of the world.
 
There is nothing historic or significant about an abysmal-looking building that is barely 15 years old.
The tiles are good. There are several similar buildings there. You remove all or nothing.
 
This is great news! The Yarra looks much nicer and holds more significance than that "Pizza Hut restaurant" Apple wanted to build. Apple could've picked anywhere else in the CBD...
I don’t necessarily like Apple’s ultraminimalism but the Yarra strikes me as being quite ugly. To my eye there is no artistic aesthetic being demonstrated. It just looks... haphazard.
 
I think you are missing the point here. It isn't about sticking it to Apple. It's about the fact that locals still have a voice and it matters. Apple is known to benefit the surrounding areas/complexes, but when people do not want it, you gotta comply. There is nothing stopping Apple from talking to neighbouring buildings owners and renting out the space they need, they have the money and the corporate muscle for it.

The big bad Apple, as you just called it, could easily then demolish and build something in the centre of Paris and indeed, the surrounding neighbourhood commerce would profit, but you gotta think of bigger things and slightly more long-term.

The locals just did not want to lose their own architecture. In my opinion, this is a significant victory and not just for Melbourne. The government listened to the people, not the dollars.

Was it really "the locals"? Or just a small pack of highly influential locals?

In my experience when things like this get squashed it's almost always due to the latter.
 
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The Yara building doesn't look attractive from the pics, but if it holds significance to the local people that doesn't matter. Why does Apple have to build on that particular spot? There isn't another empty lot or leaseholder they could buy out?
 
This might seem like a victory for the people, but if the people actually visited Fed Square this wouldn’t have been an issue in the first place.

The fact is Fed Square is going broke. It hasn’t turned a profit in over 15 years and keeps requiring more money from the government. A marquee tenant like Apple may have helped turn the place around, but the people have decided the the price of changing the building is too high.

Hopefully the people will put to use this re-discovered passion for Fed Square by visiting it helping the square attract new (less invasive) tenants.

If not, the whole thing is likely to wither and die.
 
I hope you aren’t equating the Yarra building with the Sydney opera house? That would be really...embarrassing.

Also the complaints were about the cost, not its looks.

Yes, I am comparing both because both projects had considerable controversies at the time. Though of different styles both were considered too "modern" for their time. Both projects went over their estimates. Federation Square was estimated to cost $120 Miliion AUD but actually cost $450 Million AUD. I forgot what the Opera House was estimated to build v. actual.
 
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Is there not *some* park nearby Apple could use for their store? Why is Apple targeting a cultural reserve? Why start an entirely new, grand, public square somewhere else?
 
If you look beyond the outermost façade, that Yarra Building seems like a mess, not comparable at all.

I remember the outrage over the Sydney Opera House design. I remember the outrage over the Pyramide du Louvre in Paris. I remember the outrage over the Guggenheim Museum in NYC.

Art, fashion, and architecture evolve through controversy, mediocracy, acceptance, then embracement.
 
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I remember the outrage over the Sydney Opera House design. I remember the outrage over the Pyramide du Louvre in Paris. I remember the outrage over the Guggenheim Museum in NYC.

Art, fashion, and architecture evolve through controversy, mediocracy, acceptance, then embracement.
You cannot compare those with something that looks like some tiles were kludged over a mediocre building.
 
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The Yara building doesn't look attractive from the pics, but if it holds significance to the local people that doesn't matter. Why does Apple have to build on that particular spot? There isn't another empty lot or leaseholder they could buy out?
They don’t have to. Which is why they won’t.
 
Well, a lot of design experts here.
Read this article:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-20/federation-square-building-demolished-for-apple-store/9275498
Then tell me that the Apple Store looks like it will fit right in...:rolleyes:

I am forever impressed that there is singularly gorgeous weather on designers' illustrations of the projected completed building. You never see clouds, rain, fog or anything other than sunshine and happy shoppers walking by.

Yes but there is no denying that normal functioning humans have taste and can detect crap from art. Not everything created is by defition art.

I see. What I like = normal, what others like = weirdos. I think there is plenty of room for denial, here.
 
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Yes but there is no denying that normal functioning humans have taste and can detect crap from art. Not everything created is by defition art.

your post can only be intepretted as saying

"Stop liking what I don't like"

and in response.

NO. I will like what I like. You like what you like. But your subjective opinion on an artistic thing has no bearing on my subjective opinion.
 
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I like how weird the Yarra building looks. I’m glad it wasn’t demolished. The Apple stores would have been comparatively boring.

I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s attractive but clearly it gets a reaction, and that’s good. :)
 
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