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I just ran into a big gotcha with the Apple Card. It's apparently tied to your Apple ID rather than to you as an individual. No problem you say? Well, I happen to have two Apple IDs because I have an old one going back to before iCloud was even a thing. I received the invitation and got approved, but now I cannot use or link the card but only to devices using that specific Apple ID. So I can't even use it with my primary iPhone, Apple Watch, etc, due to this because I use my iCloud.com Apple ID on those. :rolleyes:
 
The feds dropped interest rates last week by exactly that much. 0.25%.

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Do you have a car loan or a home mortgage? If so, you are doing it wrong... /s

Not in all cases, we have one auto loan at 0% for 36 months and another at 0.9% for 72 months, so we're actually doing it right. The payment is laughable on the 72 month loan and the 36 loan is free. This allowed us to put the money that was going to go down on the 36 month loan into the market where it has done very well (excluding Monday of course, but it should bounce back). The 72 month loan is so small each month that I can fund my Roth IRA monthly over the next 72 months in lieu of a larger car payment.

We do have a mortgage because we are not trust fund babies and don't care to live in a sketchy area. But its half paid off at 8 years of ownership and has grown an equal amount in value in the same time, so we're at about 67% equity at this time. We'll be here another 5 years, give or take, before leveraging that equity as a down payment on another home and renting this one out.

Living below your means is where its at kids.
 
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It does NOT offer extended warranties and purchase protection.

Keep in mind these benefits, along with other benefits like supplemental rental car insurance and price rewind, are being dropped from a number of credit cards that previously offered it.
 
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No extended warranty, of course. Any Citi card is significantly better, extending your AppleCare out to 5 years if you pay for it, or giving you free AppleCare (1+2). You'd have to be crazy to not purchase Apple products with a Citi card.
The Citi Simplicity card is dropping all benefits as of September 22nd 2019. No extended warranty at all. I was planning to drop it because of that.

I'm not happy that Apple isn't providing extended warranty and rental car coverage.

I may still get the card, but I won't use it other than for Apple stuff.
 
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Good information. But I am struggling to see what's unique here. Applecard gives the same access as any MasterCard? It does NOT offer extended warranties and purchase protection. The APR is not extraordinarily low in today's environment and the account will be closed if the user ever stops using an iPhone or iPad?
The hype I’m seeing today is over the top. One guy claimed close to 70% of iPhone users will have an Apple Card and it will be one of Apple’s most important products over the next 10 years. I don’t get all the OMG over the card changing colors in the app. I saw someone else on Twitter wondering if they’re going to have anxiety if someone sees the color of their card. Good grief.

I’m also not a huge fan of this UI. Yeah I’m sure Apple really wants Apple Card to be your default CC but it’s just shameless. Saying set as default later is confusing. I’d rather have a button that says no thanks and then maybe below it something in fine print that says you can set as default in the wallet app at any time or something like that.

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talk about being entrenched into the apple "ecosystem". The A-card requires an iPhone running the latest version of iOS. Don't want to update your version iOS on your iPhone because of, let's see, maybe 20 reasons? then your new credit card no worky.
 
12.9 to 23.9% ?!?! Ouch. I have several MC & VISA cards - they range from 6.9 on the low end to 10.9 for the high. Gonna really have to think about whether this one is worth it.
The Apple interest rate is more than competitive.

If you're paying even 6.9% on credit card balances, you're totally doing it wrong. The interest rate offered by the Apple card is incredibly competitive.

Credit card interest rates should be almost a non-factor.
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It looks massive slick, but I'm a cash and debit guy....not for me....
Apple is offering 2% cash back, which is like free money.

Nothing wrong with debit/cash, but credit cards (particularly miles and cash back) have too many advantages not to use. If you think you'll spend more with a CC, at least link your regular monthly fixed expenses to one and get the cash back.
 
Interest still seems kind of high. My Barclaycard Mastercard is at 10% (fixed rate, not variable) and I'm pretty sure I can call and negotiate that down a bit, just too lazy to do it and I rarely carry a balance for long as it's important to NOT pay that interest anyway. Plus they still charge that same 10% for cash withdrawals and balance transfers with no % fees. Plus no purchase protection/extended warranty on the Apple card? Yeah I'll stick to my Barclaycard.
 
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I'm assuming we can still talk about the relatively low starting rate versus other credit cards?
 
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No extended warranty, of course. Any Citi card is significantly better, extending your AppleCare out to 5 years if you pay for it, or giving you free AppleCare (1+2). You'd have to be crazy to not purchase Apple products with a Citi card.

Agreed. Was really geeked about my mom and sis getting this card but without the supplemental coverages like warranty extensions or purchase protections, the card isn’t really competitive for big ticket items.

With their (Membership needed) Citi Costco Card they get back 4/3/2/1% on gas/trav&rest/Costco/all else.

With their (Free) AMEX Blue Skymiles Card they get 1mi/$, which is worth ca. 2¢, or % (or 2mi/$ in restaurants, so 4¢, or %).

Plus both cards have good supplemental coverages.

So, I’m not sure Apple Card’s extra 1% over Amex on Apple hardware purchases makes sense, e.g. on a 1000$ phone purchase, it’s essentially 10$ above and beyond the Citi Costco Visa, but to gain that 10$ via AC, you loose warranty extension and purchase protection.

As far as I can tell, compared to the above two cards, the AC may be worth my sister using it to autopay her iTunes music and iCloud storage, but not much else.

One concrete example: she bought a pair of BeatsX and nearly 2 years later one side stopped working. Apple warranty was expired a year before, but because of the warranty extension, she called the card company and they arranged for a new replacement. If she had used Apple Card, she would have been sunk.

Maybe this card will make sense in Europe where (generally) the annual and special fees are high, the rebates are low and the supplementals are weak or non existent. But as I see it now, against US cards, it’s not very competitive in most categories.

So Caveat Emptor baby!
 
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I just ran into a big gotcha with the Apple Card. It's apparently tied to your Apple ID rather than to you as an individual. No problem you say? Well, I happen to have two Apple IDs because I have an old one going back to before iCloud was even a thing. I received the invitation and got approved, but now I cannot use or link the card but only to devices using that specific Apple ID. So I can't even use it with my primary iPhone, Apple Watch, etc, due to this because I use my iCloud.com Apple ID on those. :rolleyes:
Call Apple to see if they can reroute your invite.
 
Call Apple to see if they can reroute your invite.

I called the Apple Card support number at Goldman and they were friendly, but they couldn't offer any suggestions. The problem is I'm already approved and was issued the card, but it's tied to my old Apple ID that I barely use. I've tried adding the card manually in Wallet using the full card number, but it just errors out and says to contact the card issuer.
 
As a shareholder I'm glad Apple is finding new ways to make money. As a longtime Apple fan, I hate that Apple is going to profit in part from lending money and charging interest. They should be making cool stuff and making money from that.
 
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This card offers absolutely nothing new and only limits its user compared to other cards. No web-based card management? Seriously?

I also enjoy a nice 0% APR on my credit cards because I actually live well below my means unlike the rest of my foolish generation.
 
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I just ran into a big gotcha with the Apple Card. It's apparently tied to your Apple ID rather than to you as an individual. No problem you say? Well, I happen to have two Apple IDs because I have an old one going back to before iCloud was even a thing. I received the invitation and got approved, but now I cannot use or link the card but only to devices using that specific Apple ID. So I can't even use it with my primary iPhone, Apple Watch, etc, due to this because I use my iCloud.com Apple ID on those. :rolleyes:

I wondered about this as well. If I sign into my phone with my iCloud ID but I still use my old pre-icloud ID for iTunes purchases will that be a problem?
 
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