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I wondered about this as well. If I sign into my phone with my iCloud ID but I still use my old pre-icloud ID for iTunes purchases will that be a problem?

That's the issue I'm having right now. I only use the old Apple ID strictly for iTunes purchases and nothing else. I'm hoping that they iron it out, otherwise I'll have to cancel the card because I'd never be able to actually use it.
 
As a shareholder I'm glad Apple is finding new ways to make money. As a longtime Apple fan, I hate that Apple is going to profit in part from lending money and charging interest. They should be making cool stuff and making money from that.

Are they going to make any money off the card? I don't know for a fact, but I think all the money from the card will go to GS. For Apple, it's all about locking the consumer into the Apple ecosystem. Give up your iPhone and the credit card goes along with it and if you have to cancel it as a result, your credit report gets dinged!
 
Yeah, but it’s just as easy with, say, a Chase Unlimited Signature card is. Plus, the Chase card is 1.5% back on EVERYTHING. Actually, each month, they have a list of vendors that will get you an even higher cash back or discount.

But it’s not as easy as Apple Card. That’s what Juli is trying to say.
 
But it’s not as easy as Apple Card. That’s what Juli is trying to say.

No, it really is. There’s nothing difficult at all. Get this: I lost my card recently. Called Chase automated, reported lost card. As soon as I hung up, the card in my wallet was automatically updated to the new card number and information - both on my phone and watch.
 
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No, it really is. There’s nothing difficult at all. Get this: I lost my card recently. Called Chase automated, reported lost card. As soon as I hung up, the card in my wallet was automatically updated to the new card number and information - both on my phone and watch.

Not saying it’s difficult. We’re saying it’s easier than any other card experience out there.

Have you signed up for Apple Card, tracked purchases, and navigated through its user interface through the Wallet app yet? If not, how can you say it’s not as easier and simpler than that experience?
 
Not saying it’s difficult. We’re saying it’s easier than any other card experience out there.

Have you signed up for Apple Card, tracked purchases, and navigated through its user interface through the Wallet app yet? If not, how can you say it’s not as easier and simpler than that experience?

I can’t imagine how much easier it will be. I’m having ZERO issues doing all of that, plus purchase protection, 1.5% back, zero annual fee, works flawlessly with Apple Pay (including auto-updating card).

I’m in no way saying people shouldn’t get this card. I wouldn’t dare to assume that it’s not a good thing for everyone. For some, they will like it just fine.
 
I can’t imagine how much easier it will be. I’m having ZERO issues doing all of that, plus purchase protection, 1.5% back, zero annual fee, works flawlessly with Apple Pay (including auto-updating card).

I’m in no way saying people shouldn’t get this card. I wouldn’t dare to assume that it’s not a good thing for everyone. For some, they will like it just fine.

And that’s where Apple usually comes in and subverts expectations, when you least expect it. No one was complaining about MP3 players or smart phones until Apple stepped in those markets.

That’s great that you have zero issues, but that doesn’t mean there’s no room for improvement. For example, just look at the maps feature that AC offers where it tracks every transaction through GPS and integrates it with Maps and also automatically renames any transaction that particular business name instead of an obscure name. It’s extremely user friendly. I have two Chase cards myself (Amazon and Freedom) and neither gives me that type of info or feature set.
 
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"Purchase protection and extended warranties offered by some credit cards as benefits are not available with the Apple Card."

Two of the biggest benefits in my book, but of course Apple Card wouldn't offer extended warranties as AppleCare purchases would take a hit. I think without those two, I'd wind up using other cards I have with extra 1 or 2 years warranty and purchase protect for bigger dollar purchases.

For me, Apple Card is DOA.
 
At least it's interesting / different. Not sure it's better and/or practical though. I might sign up out of curiosity. I've been wanting to get a card w/ rewards of some kind. I haven't carried a cc balance in ~15 years, but the 12% interest rate is better than many cards on the off chance that I forget to pay the bill.
 
Good information. But I am struggling to see what's unique here. Applecard gives the same access as any MasterCard? It does NOT offer extended warranties and purchase protection. The APR is not extraordinarily low in today's environment and the account will be closed if the user ever stops using an iPhone or iPad?

Apple wants you to buy AppleCare
 
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I’d rather have a button that says no thanks and then maybe below it something in fine print that says you can set as default in the wallet app at any time or something like that.
I completely agree. That took me by surprise and I had to think through my response for a minute.

I also don't like the fact that they automatically set your credit limit, and I can't seem to find a way to change that. (I want it lower.) The one thing I'm really looking forward to: the titanium card. That's just so Apple.

EDIT: I got my answer to the credit limit question. There's a "message" button in the Apple Card wallet settings. A rep from Goldman-Sachs said credit limit adjustments are not currently supported.
 
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talk about being entrenched into the apple "ecosystem". The A-card requires an iPhone running the latest version of iOS. Don't want to update your version iOS on your iPhone because of, let's see, maybe 20 reasons? then your new credit card no worky.

Apple have taken a simple service and made it needlessly convoluted
 
Agreed. Was really geeked about my mom and sis getting this card but without the supplemental coverages like warranty extensions or purchase protections, the card isn’t really competitive for big ticket items.

With their Citi Costco Card they get back 4/4/2/1 gas/trav&rest/Costco/all else. With their AMEX Blue Skymiles Card they get 1mi/$, which is worth 2-3¢, or % (or 2$/mi in restaurants, so 4-6¢). Plus both cards have good supplemental coverages. I’m not sure the extra 2% in the Apple store makes sense, on a 1000$ phone purchase, it’s essentially 20$ above and beyond the Citi Costco Visa, but you loose warranty extension and purchase protection.

As far as I can tell, compared to the above two cards, the AC may be worth my sister using it to autopay her iTunes music and iCloud storage, but not much else’s.

One example, she bought a pair of BeatsX and nearly 2 years later one side stopped working. Apple warranty was expired a year before, but because of the warranty extension, she called the card company and they arranged for a new replacement. If she had used Apple Card, she would have been sunk.

Maybe this card will make sense in Europe where the fees are high, the rebates are low and the supplementals are weak or non existent. But as I see it now, against US cards, it’s not very competitive in most categories.
Ya, Apple doesn’t want to help consumers NOT to buy AppleCare.
 
Apple wants you to buy AppleCare

That would make sense on products that Apple sells. What about a flatscreen TV or a toaster? Consumers would be SOL compared to a card that does offer extended warranty.
 
And that’s where Apple usually comes in and subverts expectations, when you least expect it. No one was complaining about MP3 players or smart phones until Apple stepped in those markets.

That’s great that you have zero issues, but that doesn’t mean there’s no room for improvement. For example, just look at the maps feature that AC offers where it tracks every transaction through GPS and integrates it with Maps and also automatically renames any transaction that particular business name instead of an obscure name. It’s extremely user friendly. I have two Chase cards myself (Amazon and Freedom) and neither gives me that type of info or feature set.

Apple really subverted expectations by tying your money to a phone and particular Apple ID, guaranteeing you're really screwed if you lose it
 
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12.99% is too high. 23.99% is highway robbery. I can't believe Apple is now in the predatory landing business.
 
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That would make sense on products that Apple sells. What about a flatscreen TV or a toaster? Consumers would be SOL compared to a card that does offer extended warranty.

Apple considers it stealing when you give money to other companies. The sooner Tim can just get all Americans paying a 30% income tax straight to Apple the better.
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12.99% is too high. 23.99% is highway robbery. I can't believe Apple is now in the predatory landing business.

Far worse than any other bank IMO. Apple effectively says "stop buying our phones/watches and we'll crash your credit rating"
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"Purchase protection and extended warranties offered by some credit cards as benefits are not available with the Apple Card."

Two of the biggest benefits in my book, but of course Apple Card wouldn't offer extended warranties as AppleCare purchases would take a hit. I think without those two, I'd wind up using other cards I have with extra 1 or 2 years warranty and purchase protect for bigger dollar purchases.

For me, Apple Card is DOA.

Purchase protection is the main reason to have a credit card for me. A credit card without it is just a very high rate loan.
 
That’s great that you have zero issues, but that doesn’t mean there’s no room for improvement. For example, just look at the maps feature that AC offers where it tracks every transaction through GPS and integrates it with Maps and also automatically renames any transaction that particular business name instead of an obscure name. It’s extremely user friendly.
This is actually not new. My BoA credit cards in Apple Pay do this too. When I tap on an in-store transaction it shows this:



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Apple really subverted expectations by tying your money to a phone and particular Apple ID, guaranteeing you're really screwed if you lose it

I don’t understand. How are you screwed? It works with your iPad too. Or do I have to lose both my iPhone and iPad to be really screwed?
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This is actually not new. My BoA credit cards in Apple Pay do this too. When I tap on an in-store transaction it shows this:



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I have 9 credit cards in Apple Pay and I have never seen Maps in any transaction....
 
I don’t understand. How are you screwe? It works with your iPad too. Or do I have to lose both my iPhone and iPad to be really screwed?
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I have 9 credit cards in Apple Pay and I have never seen Maps in any transaction....

So long as you carry around your iPhone and iPad whenever you go out, but keep them separate so losing one doesn't lose the other... yeah this is really simple stuff from Apple. A card that just works on its own was too difficult.
 
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