Not sure what bugs you are seeing but I'm using a 5s with 8.0.2 installed as a work and personal phone used all day with multiple Exchange and iCloud accounts associated with it and no major bugs or announces whatsoever.
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Apple Ceases Signing iOS 7.1.2, Downgrading No Longer Possible
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Not sure what bugs you are seeing but I'm using a 5s with 8.0.2 installed as a work and personal phone used all day with multiple Exchange and iCloud accounts associated with it and no major bugs or announces whatsoever.
So don't upgrade? And iOS 8 will become stable soon enough. This turbulence is normal. Maybe not to the extent that we've seen, but there is always _some_ turbulence.
iOS 7 was such a mess. Even considering iOS 8's massive bugs on launch (and of course 8.0.1) I would never go back to that.
That being said, I still feel bad for those that prefer iOS 7.1.2 but can't downgrade.
That being said, I still feel bad for those that prefer iOS 7.1.2 but can't downgrade.
Crap... I thought they had stopped already. I could have restored my daughters 4s to deal with the cell data being drained by a bug that won't let her turn off which apps use data. Guess I'll just have to wait for 8.? to deal with it.
Ability to downgrade on 7.1.2 much needed for older devices
Apple made a serious error allowing earlier devices to 'upgrade' to IOS 8.
iPad2 for example. It is simply not powerful enough to run IOS 8 , you are left with a paperweight and a forced upgrade to a new multi 100$ device.
Before the fanboy' bleating starts......if you added a new fuel to your car on the promise that it was ok to put it in the tank for your model, then the vehicle runs at half the power and subsequently you are told you can never go back to having it work as it did 10 minutes ago..... Yeah law suit.
Apple needs to honour the $100's of dollars you have spent on your device and enable you to return it to a useful one.
Apple made a serious error allowing earlier devices to 'upgrade' to IOS 8.
iPad2 for example. It is simply not powerful enough to run IOS 8 , you are left with a paperweight and a forced upgrade to a new multi 100$ device.
Before the fanboy' bleating starts......if you added a new fuel to your car on the promise that it was ok to put it in the tank for your model, then the vehicle runs at half the power and subsequently you are told you can never go back to having it work as it did 10 minutes ago..... Yeah law suit.
Apple needs to honour the $100's of dollars you have spent on your device and enable you to return it to a useful one.
Just in time
I downgraded 2.5 hrs ago. Just in time.
I have owned Apple products since the //e in the early 80s and always updated any OS on the day of its release. This is the first time I have ever downgraded to a previous system.
For my uses on an iPad2, iOS8 just did not offer enough features to compensate for the sluggishness, stuttering and crashes that I was experiencing after 8.0, 8.0.1 and 8.0.2.
My grandkids will have to start all over on various games but that is no big deal, the smoothness and reliability of 7.1.2 is worth it.
I downgraded 2.5 hrs ago. Just in time.
I have owned Apple products since the //e in the early 80s and always updated any OS on the day of its release. This is the first time I have ever downgraded to a previous system.
For my uses on an iPad2, iOS8 just did not offer enough features to compensate for the sluggishness, stuttering and crashes that I was experiencing after 8.0, 8.0.1 and 8.0.2.
My grandkids will have to start all over on various games but that is no big deal, the smoothness and reliability of 7.1.2 is worth it.
I suppose neither will reading the 5 people before you who already advised this.
I appreciate your shedding light on a dark subject. The rest of you could learn something from dukebound85 and the kindness shown.
Bad! When iOS 9 so my iPhone can work again, I can cook eggs now on my iPhone after iOS 8.0.2 update.
I had that same problem a few months ago. I found a solution online, let me find the article.
I does affect us all in some way, but it's not really an issue with iOS.
You should go ahead and ask a developer what fragmentation does. What it does is that it makes newer API less attractive to a developer, and it will require developers to keep in mind users that are still running out-to-date software in order to ensure stability and performance towards system versions and revisions otherwise unnecessary.
The sole reason why you see millions upon millions of apps update with new iOS 8 API's and features, stability fixes and performance enhancement on day one with iOS is due to the fact that developers know that the vast majority of iOS users will update within a matter of days, or weeks.
If this had not been the case, the developers wouldn't have cared. The competition within App Store is so huge, and the continuous flow of efficient iOS upgrades forces (which is a good thing) app developers to keep their apps up-to-date and enhanced with all the latest features and whatnot fast in order to keep them relevant in the marketplace.
Take Android for example, its been over two years since they released their "Holo" optimised UI and UX-design, and still less than 10% of the apps on Google Play Store have optimised towards these guidelines at all... And lots of Google's latest API's introduced in Android 4.X have yet to be utilised in the majority of apps on Google Play Store simply due to the fact that there are so many out-of-date devices out there that it makes no sense for developer to focus on the latest and greatest software, and the latest and greatest hardware because that's not where their potential demographic lies.
As a Android developer you wont develop a app or a game with the Galaxy Note 4 in mind, instead you have in mind all those millions upon millions older and lower priced models in the market as they make of a much higher market share for Android compared to the top-of-the-line modes forcing developers to ensure that their apps and game will run on both Android 2.X, as well as Android 3.X and 4.X and you will also need to make sure it runs on that slow Galaxy Young as well as that high-power Note 4 or you will lower your potential customer base quite a bit.
Why else do you think games like Balloon Tower Defence runs much slower on a Galaxy S5 compared to an old iPhone 4S? How come on level 80+ things start to lag as hell on the S5, while you can keep going until level 130+ on the old iPhone 4S before the same thing starts happening on that phone? How come graphics in games tends to look better on older iPhone devices compared to brand new, top-of-the-line Android devices?
It all comes down to optimisation and utilising the latest and greatest features, programming languages and API's of the platform. Android has a huge disadvantage compared to iOS on this, and of course people would want all iOS users to update as well in order to keep things attractive for developers in the future.
Everything about this comment just comes off as a little child who thinks he's cool and rebellious for not conforming with the mass. Eh.
Until all the "bugs" are worked out I'm not updating my 4s
I wish I hadn't updated my 4S! 3G absolutely kills the battery on that (probably lots of background connection stuff. I've got all but the important stuff disabled but it still drains in 8-10 hours!)
If iOS 8 is running slowly on an iPhone 5, something is buggy with the install. The hardware is plenty capable.
I'm extremely grateful for the iOS reviews that said not to install it on my 4S, had I done it, I would be screwed and I'd have to buy a new phone. I was curious and thought maybe I'll install it and downgrade if I don't like it, but apparently Apple thinks no one would ever want to do that.
Why is this okay to do? If you buy a Mac with Snow Leopard, you'd expect to be able to reinstall Snow Leopard on it whenever you like. Why does Apple stop allowing you to use the software that your phone originally came with and was designed for? All they have to do is NOT stop signing it, what's the cost of that?
Why is this okay to do? If you buy a Mac with Snow Leopard, you'd expect to be able to reinstall Snow Leopard on it whenever you like. Why does Apple stop allowing you to use the software that your phone originally came with and was designed for? All they have to do is NOT stop signing it, what's the cost of that?
Why? Even if the newest OS cripple their old devices? I refuse install iOS 8 on my first generation iPad mini. Now I have to make sure I am not gonna do any restore on that machine. Otherwise, I will be force to iOS 8. This is extremely stupid
If Apple doesn't push people towards upgrading and being on the latest iOS release, it forces developers (and Apple themselves) to support more versions for longer. Look at Microsoft still dealing with XP. Also, if I'm a developer, I'd imagine iOS is pretty damn attractive - 90+% of devices were running iOS 7 before 8 came out, and iOS 8 adoption is likely over 50% already - as there is nowhere near the fragmentation of Android. Now if Apple kept signing older software, would the fragmentation approach that of Android? No, but it would be worse than it is today. Having every user on the same release makes troubleshooting and support easier.
Is it pathetic that Apple still has these major bugs in iOS 8 despite trying to focus resources on a single version? Yes. Does Apple leave open the possibility for better user experience (theoretically, if they improve their bug squashing) and attracting more developers by only signing one version? Yes.
But Apple does not force you upgrade to latest OS X and OS X App Store doing just fine... Developer should get do their effort. As consumer I would care my choice and I am demanding choice to downgrade.