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Technology will always hinder human relationships. He's totally off. The iPhone has not enhanced relationships. It has multiplied them and made them more superficial. The best music is still done using the human voice, no matter how many machines are out there to pretend they can make music. How can you enhance something that is as rich as a hand touching your shoulder, as a kiss between lovers, as the feeling you get when you fall in love, as the hug between friends, as the laughter you create when you make a good joke, as the tears you shed when a love one is hurt or dies? It cannot be enhanced.

Now that's what I call profound.
 
Exactly right. Process needs to be followed otherwise every Apple product would be the same as a PC. This process means working at a higher level and not accepting something if it is ok. Being decisive and making the call to shift focus is super important and makes me respect Tim and Apple more. Great management to be able to do this.

I wonder how many times Steve told them to start again over the ipod, phone, iPad etc. I bet it was a few.

Yes Google Glass was a disaster - brought to media attention far too early and look what happened. Apple may well have had a similar product but had the balls to can it in private.

First, I don't care about Google. Leave them out of the conversation for sake of sticking to the point.

Starting over again when you know what you want, and know what will work is the key part you seemed to gloss over. Apple started wth the Car not really knowing what they wanted, thats clear from the change of direction.

Are you suggesting (in your other reply) that they haven't been doing anything with cars? When have you ever heard rumors about projects that apple didn't want you to hear about?

http://www.imore.com/bob-mansfield-takes-secretive-project-titan-apple-car-project
 
Are they though?

They seemed pretty ahead of the industry when they released the first MacBook Air/ultrabook.
They seemed pretty ahead of the industry when they put a high DPI screen in the iPhone 4.
They seemed pretty ahead of the industry when they made a multi-touch phone without a physical keyboard.

They've led on plenty of initiatives and ideas. To say that they haven't is a myth.
wow, someone is pretty upset at a non-apple fanboy sheep this morning, lol
 
Starting over again when you know what you want, and know what will work is the key part you seemed to gloss over. They started from the point of not really knowing what they wanted.

Are you suggesting (in your other reply) that they haven't been doing anything with cars?

http://www.imore.com/bob-mansfield-takes-secretive-project-titan-apple-car-project
Bob Mansfield taking over Titan is an emergency - a total leap in the dark.
On the conceptual level Apple tries to define what role to play in the automotive market, yet they assign a known implementor to achieve THE result (that isn't defined) in Time (that proposedly slips and slips)
 
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Anyway, if even Tim Cook states "it will take some time" and it's not in the "pipeline" this is a thing we will lend to our heirs. Stay tuned.
 
I think everyone is seriously downplaying the potential applications for AR here. Take a look at what the folks over at Magic Leap are working on. If in 5-10 years it would be possible to conjure any size screen from thin air, that renders the smartphone, tablet, and even television utterly obsolete. Any tech company that isn't betting on and exploring AR right now would be incredibly foolish and short-sighted.

There's a reason every major tech company is meeting with Magic Leap and that they've received over a billion dollars in angel investments so far without even releasing a product. This is the future. It's not difficult to picture. We aren't talking about Pokemon Go here.

There's one problem with that. Microsoft is already doing the AR bit with the HoloLens. By the time, Apple gets one out, Hololens will be cheaper and probably redesigned to be more lightweight. And yes, Pokemon Go is actually AR. So is Ingress. More of a 'low end' AR. However, with high end AR like Magic Leap or Hololens, it will take Apple a long time to get to that point. For one, they would need to either beef up the hardware specs all across OR embed AR into the software for the iOS devices.

I'm aware of Magic Leap, although and I'm sure they quite ahead of Apple on this.

Point being is that it's dead obvious Apple would be making a wearable headset such as glasses with HUD for the AR effect to work. Even the watch or the phone is the obvious connection there. Hell, AR is not new and has been around for long time. Even the military, especially the Air Force has them in their helmets. Even portable HUDs with readouts on the windshield of the car has been around for some time now released by at least two companies. They exist. Even Garmin has one for people who ride bikes and for cars with an HUD projection display.

So one has to think how Apple is going to use AR for. It's obvious they will try to monetize it. It's a matter of how Apple is going to implement AR into their ecosystem. Everything they do is almost always tied into the App Store.
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Why is AR a profound technology Mr. Cook? Show me an example (outside of amusements & gaming) that profoundly affects the life of anyone. The concept of AR as promoted by Facebook is IMO decidedly dystopian -- e.g. "we control the horizontal, we control the vertical...". This approach is no different than the Trekkies who believe that physics should match the script of their favorite TV show and not vice versa. We're being told that life and reality can (and should) be part of a frikken video game?

AR isn't super profound since it's been around for some time. Nothing revolutionary about it since the novelty is almost worn out. But VR is very profound of an experience and more immersive than AR.

One profound example of VR is The Void which is a specialized place where you play the games interacting with actual live objects and environments in tandem with the devices. It's quite fascinating seen here:

https://thevoid.com/

AR, on the other hand, got its start when I remember seeing QR codes being used with phones on a low end. Then they did this with illustrated books that had some form of interactivity. Even toys where one had to use the phone over them to see the actual action. Ingress and Pokemon Go are another example of 'low end' AR with a social gaming bent.

Apple will have no choice but to do a 'low end' AR goggle to get it out because the 'high end premium' would take too long and requires powerful specs to pull it off. I suspect the AR part will be software driven in tandem with the iphone camera, watch, and probably glasses connected with Air Pods.
 
I am 100% with Tim on this. VR is an escape, AR is an enhancement. Both have their uses, but the applications for AR are literally endless. Everyone complaining about old Macs (myself included) has a valid reason to complain, but it's not all Apple's fault when you consider companies such as Intel are shifting the majority of their focus to mobile stuff. They won't give up on the Mac any time soon, even though longer update cycles may become the norm as more of the market shifts towards mobile.

Personally, I think we are about to see some seriously amazing stuff from Apple. If you remember, around the time Steve passed (RIP), they said he had overseen at least 4 years worth of products in the pipeline. I tend to think that the Apple Watch, new Apple TV (with the App Store), new MacBook, and possibly the iPad Pro were some of the last of "Steve's products". The next several years will see the release of some brand new products that Steve was not involved in whatsoever, or "Tim's products". I also tend to think that Steve Jobs himself would not have handed over the reins to someone who was merely a "bean counter" as Tim has often been called around these parts. I believe Tim has more vision and passion than most give him credit for, even if he is not great at articulating that in keynotes and interviews. If you look at some of the recent rumors, and the companies that Apple is buying up (or poaching talent from), there are clearly some really big plays on the horizon, and I can't wait to see them come to light.
 
With respect to AR, that's a very simplistic first-order assessment of the potential that any kid in junior high school could predict. The potential is FAR greater for those with imagination able to see further into the future.
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"But here's the problem. AR is already here and if you play Ingress, well, Apple is late to the game."

But here's the problem. Music and music players are already here and as there are devices like the Rio and Nomad MP3 players, Apple is late to the game.

But does Tim Cook have the imagination to see further into the future?

The point being is that AR is not new. What else could Apple do with AR that's already been done with many companies now? Every time they do a new product, it's usually tied in to the App Store. That much is already obvious. This is not about having imagination to see further into the future. This is about the practicality of AR tech. What practical use does Apple have for AR right now?
 
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wow, someone is pretty upset at a non-apple fanboy sheep this morning, lol

Whenever someone makes this type of cowardly and snide comment, lacking substance & usually pretending to "call out" someone for being upset, or angry or whatever- you can almost certainly look at the original post & see that simply isn't true. Like in this case, the op made some claims about Apple being able to lead the market; then backed up his position with specific examples.
The childish & immature response (that I hear in my head as being said in a "sing-song" manner, on a school playground) somehow, even in only being one sentence of meaningless chiding, contains a smart alec opener, ("wow"), a baseless accusation ("someone is pretty upset..."), two insulting adjectives ("fanboy" & "sheep"), then a sneering finish ("lol").
This person responds to other's opinions with the same thought & respect that Trump puts into his responses in political debates! That is to say: none, whatsoever... just blindly lashing out off topic, with strings of unrelated insults.
 
If you think an accessory should be highlighted on a CEO's record, then I guess we will have to agree to disagree. He has been riding on the coat tails of the iPhone, any of us on here, except for a select few 'yes men' (you know who you are), could run a company that has that type of product. But he is flailing to find the next ONE and he isn't doing a good job of it so far. Never mind, the lack of Macs for years, inexcusable.

You may be right about Tim. But the watch is an accessory in the way that the iPhone was an an accessory pocket watch.
 
You may be right about Tim. But the watch is an accessory in the way that the iPhone was an an accessory pocket watch.

What? The iPhone was never a pocket watch. While it took the app store to explode the iphone to popularity, it was never just a pocket watch. The same thing happened with the iPod, until they made a Windows version off iTunes it wasn't nearly as successful.
 
Name one thing Apple is a frontrunner these days? I can't think of one. You?


Apple can't do nothing with VR because their computers aren't up to it. Premium prized antique.

I hope Cook is seeing the bigger picture because I don't. I thought he was a great leader at first but he seems more focused on profits then tech. ZD-Net put out a nice article about the state of the Mac. I've wrote similar messages many times. I also wonder why People visit the Apple store... What's new there? What is attracting new comers to the mac?
Even the Apple ecosystem isn't competetive anymore. I love OSX above Windows but I hate their aging gear for premium prizes.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-disgracefully-outdated-mac-lineup-is-killing-sales/
 
That's the appropriate answer since it goes directly to the Apple Leadership Bio page
Well... I want AI to read it out for me, not redirect to some page, which I can myself go using google (or some other search engine)!
 
But does Tim Cook have the imagination to see further into the future?

The point being is that AR is not new. What else could Apple do with AR that's already been done with many companies now? Every time they do a new product, it's usually tied in to the App Store. That much is already obvious. This is not about having imagination to see further into the future. This is about the practicality of AR tech. What practical use does Apple have for AR right now?


"The point being is that AR is not new."

That's the point? Really?

Once more: Oh noes, Apple should immediately drop researching the technology because, like music players and cell phones in the 1990s, it's not new.

Again, try and use your imagination. It's not that difficult to speculate how AR can be used in conjunction with devices, existing and otherwise, across a wide range of interesting fields and situations, that would be very appealing.

If you could possibly take a minute away from your day-after-day Apple/Cook bashing I'm sure you might be able to come up with a couple ideas on your own. Seriously.
 
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Whenever someone makes this type of cowardly and snide comment, lacking substance & usually pretending to "call out" someone for being upset, or angry or whatever- you can almost certainly look at the original post & see that simply isn't true. Like in this case, the op made some claims about Apple being able to lead the market; then backed up his position with specific examples.
The childish & immature response (that I hear in my head as being said in a "sing-song" manner, on a school playground) somehow, even in only being one sentence of meaningless chiding, contains a smart alec opener, ("wow"), a baseless accusation ("someone is pretty upset..."), two insulting adjectives ("fanboy" & "sheep"), then a sneering finish ("lol").
This person responds to other's opinions with the same thought & respect that Trump puts into his responses in political debates! That is to say: none, whatsoever... just blindly lashing out off topic, with strings of unrelated insults.
oh wow, you wasted a lot of time. lol
 
Personally nothing Tim Cook says inspires me. He has been a CEO making a lot more mis-steps than successes, and honestly if he says things are going to be big going in one direction I will invest and head the other way.

Also Apple needs to put out more and stop being a huge tease. I am tired of this company claiming big things are coming. There is nothing like a Hyperlens or VR product on the side-lines at Apple, so what the **** does Tim Cook know about AR/VR other than seeing what their competition is doing and marvelling at what can be accomplished by OTHER innovative companies. **** most Mac's can't even drive VR, what the hell is he on? And many have tried to bring Augmented reality to phones, and guess what, it really isn't want consumers want because overlaying tidbits of info on a screen while holding a phone up in front of your face is just stupid. Been done, people have moved on, Apple is late to the game if that is what they are hinting at.

The only virtual technology Apple is developing is in Tim Cook's mind when he says big things are coming, and I think that is a desert of innovation to tap into. Personally I think this company is floundering on trying to figure out what the next big thing is and while I would love to eat my words if Apple releases something impressive even in the next 5 years, the reality is that as long as Apple is lead by Tim Cook they will continue to be technically dissapointing.
 
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