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I was just watching an old keynote where Steve Jobs was making a demonstration of a new feature on a Mac. Does Tim Cook ever personally demonstrate new products and features at the keynotes? Beyond just introducing them.
 
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I was just watching an old keynote where Steve Jobs was making a demonstration of a new feature on a Mac. Does Tim Cook ever personally demonstrate new products and features at the keynotes? Beyond just introducing them.
Good point. By Steve doing that it showed us that he uses what we use and there was a connection. Tim doesn’t and it shows a disconnect of him to the company/products. We know he uses the products but he doesn’t connect us to him using them. That’s an important point.
 
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I was just watching an old keynote where Steve Jobs was making a demonstration of a new feature on a Mac. Does Tim Cook ever personally demonstrate new products and features at the keynotes? Beyond just introducing them.

Tim doesn't demo products as far as I can remember. Maybe that is why some of us don't connect with Tim on these keynotes as much as we could.
 
As an Apple enthusiast and long time user, I find this video disturbing. Looks like Cook saw the Mac Pro for the first time in person :eek:

Holy s**t! How does One explain that? I thought the photo of Ive describing something on an iPhone to Cook was a PR photo, but this video seems to support the notion that Cook is not intimate with the products he signs off on. Lucky for him, their advocates were right about their potential appeal—with some exceptions. Of course, if he's a textbook CEO who only understands trends and economics, he'll approve a costly red herring eventually, or dismiss a novel invention that isn't supported by the data.
 
As with every other publicly traded corporation, the only people who can fire Tim Cook are the Corporate Directors. How do Apple’s Directors feel about Tim Cook? Well the proof is in the pudding: from investopedia,
“Highest CEO salaries for 2018”
4. Tim Cook - CEO Apple Inc.
Total compensation: $141.6 million

In August 2018, Apple Inc. (AAPL) granted Cook 280,000 time-based and 280,000 performance-based vested restricted stock. These stock awards were worth $126 million. They were received on top of a base salary of $3 million, a cash bonus of $12 million – his biggest ever – and perks worth $682,000. Cook is the only FAANG (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix & Google) executive in the top 10 ranking.”
Bottom line: Apple’s Board of Directors LOVES Tim Cook and has never rewarded him more highly than in 2018.
 
The problem is I cant trust Tim Cook, and for far too many times he outright lied about something. Steve is very good with deception, the master of it, but Tim is not.

Having said that I don't believe Tim Cook and Ive had a fallout or anything. Look at the video of Ive talking to Tim. You can feel the relationship is there. Ive is just burn out without Steve Jobs. And he need a rest.
 
So will the prices.
But people will still buy. It’s lonely at the top I guess for apple. If someone sneezes wrong the company is doomed. There is ZERO evidence that there is any impending doom. And no trolls, less than ideal iPhone sales mean nothing since we have no idea what apple has planned to offset the fact that everyone has some sort of smart phone and growth for 50 years on that product just isn’t realty.
 
But people will still buy. It’s lonely at the top I guess for apple. If someone sneezes wrong the company is doomed. There is ZERO evidence that there is any impending doom. And no trolls, less than ideal iPhone sales mean nothing since we have no idea what apple has planned to offset the fact that everyone has some sort of smart phone and growth for 50 years on that product just isn’t realty.

Throw some more sugar on there :D
 
What I'm quite sure of is that this WSJ article is an unnecessary and distorted story. Sometimes a story in WSJ is accurate, and sometimes they're motivated by Wall Street desire to... A lot of people love shorting Apple. They push stock down, then buy it and make money on the movement of money. I think the truth is that Jony wasn't a big deal around Apple, not like he used to be, after the Watch. He took time off. He was not fully involved in his usual design chores, he was mostly working on Apple Park. Maybe he senses himself out of ideas, and thinks someone else should take over. Frog Design was great for a while. Then Jony took over.
 
I often disagree with the WSJ, but it's usually responsible reporting. But this wasn't an example. What value other than being a gossip hit piece did it serve? The article was the business equivalent of something that would be reported on the Kardashians.

There is this reality in financial circles that they will accept pure gossip if it gives somebody some shorting leverage. It really doesn't have to be true. Just "inside".
 
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This is a really bad argument and maybe you’re uneducated a bit. Journalists have a direct responsibility to actually discuss the topic at hand, but what they _shouldn’t_ do and what they tend to do most times, is input their own anecdotes or opinions, ‘hear-say’ to exacerbate something that didn’t happen beyond their own knowledge. They do this for ‘clicks’, to draw attention and create controversy. Respectable/responsible journalists discuss the topic and allow the readers to make their own viewpoints without having to clear the issue. Case in point, this very own article is an example of that.

You're probably mixing talk show hosts with journalists.

News and facts are blind to opinions and anecdotes. One can report on the apparent, and the underlying, without having to add color to them.

People who publish simple rumors indiscriminately aren't typically journalists. They're bloggers.

The reality is that most journalism today is very poor. I've been direct and indirect subjects of, or otherwise party to a few articles. In local and national (via AP) prints. They're innocuous -- nothing scandalous or shameful or boastful. And yet most of these articles were laden with mistakes big and small. Read with caution
 
Maybe the article was over the top?

However, it’s typical human nature to get burnt out doing one job for 30+ years. At min. The new design company will allow for fresh blood and be able to shield Apple from bad designs while doing just that via the new company-testing bad/good/weird designs...

...and the board members, I could realistically see that as an issue, less creative types. A quick google search could confirm/deny the types of backgrounds on the current Apple board.
Well said! It’s quite amazing how long Ive has been designing at Apple - and at that level! If there where someone like Steve at Apple he would probably stay; someone that can share the passion of design and of Apple. Ive’s new partner shares only the former.
In the end I think this split is for the best; Ive will have a boost and Apple will hopefully benefit from being the client...
 
Apples pet tech reporter doing his duty. Has Rene Ritchie written anything yet?
Yeah, no. Sorry, a balanced take does not make someone an Apple PR flack. It means they’re more interested in writing an accurate story than generating clicks.
 
Apple still has the same vision as before, and even though you wanted Apple to fail, they’re still doing great. I mean show me how Apple is being “run into the ground.”

Please show me in any post I have ever made here where I have said that I have wanted Apple to fail and then we'll go from there.
 
I posted this in another thread, but I'll reiterate it here (it's perhaps more appropriate here):

I'm sick of hearing the term "fake news" (probably because I can't stand the current POTUS).

I will trust news reporting agencies over CEOs and Presidents ANY DAY. News organizations have to have sources. Verifiable, reliable sources. Sometimes those sources lie. But it's the job of the news agency to investigate, verify, then report. They open themselves to legal action if they don't.

That said, nowadays us Americans have to do our own research and investigate each issue from multiple sources, and take everything with a grain of salt. I don't believe everything I hear, but I do want to hear everything.

This is why the freedom of the press is important. It is just like in court, we have the prosecution (the news) the defense (the subject of the article), and the jury (us).

I believe in innocent until proven guilty, but that doesn't mean we get to DISMISS THE CASE on the WORD of the accused.

There's a REASON you are indicted, and usually that requires evidence.
 
compare to e.g. Nestle, which is smaller than Apple, but they have more products

And what's your point? The last time I checked Nestle manufactured food products. How does their size relate to that of the design team for a company that creates devices?

Edit: And I use the term "food" very loosely as I'm not sure that term aptly applies to Nestle.
 
"News" CAN'T be wrong, it needs to be verified truth is what I was taught in one of the best Journalism schools in the US. I cancelled the WSJ 4 years ago because it's nothing more than editorial agenda in every stinking article. It sickens me what is called "News", and "Journalism" today. Truth is dead with the internet & social media. I feel sorry for future generations not being able to trust the daily media feeding of agenda based propaganda.
We don't know if it was any more accurate before.
 
I'm confused. WSJ says Ive was disappointed that the iWatch failed and didn't become a cultural fashion icon. As stupid as I think the watch is, I see dozens of them each day on people's wrists. The hell is the WSJ smoking?
 
No you're right it doesn't. Panzarino is absolutely one of Apples PR favourite pets though.
So what? The piece was not PR for Apple.

I'm confused. WSJ says Ive was disappointed that the iWatch failed and didn't become a cultural fashion icon. As stupid as I think the watch is, I see dozens of them each day on people's wrists. The hell is the WSJ smoking?
I’m surprised you noticed it on people’s wrists since you don’t even know what it’s called.
 
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