The only source that matters is the actual source himself, which is Jony Ive. Naturally, these types of articles are going to surface when Jony Ive is leaving, because speculation starts to run amok, trying to cause problems. I don’t believe half of what I read in the media anymore, and personally, it’s none of anyone’s business between Johnny Ives departure and Tim Cook.
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Apple CEO Tim Cook Calls Recent WSJ Report About Jony Ive 'Absurd'
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Unfortunately, the same thing is transferred to the bloggers and youtubers who are simply looking for the page hits and views, ignoring the whole picture altogether.
I take your personal opinion, but this is a publicly traded company... it IS investor's business!
i am no longer a shareholder, and do not have a dog in this fight.
but something monumentally stupid was claimed in that wsj article: that Cook was so uninterested in products and design, at the public launches was often where he saw products for the first time
it was supported by photo and caption: Ive standing next to Cook, looking dumbfounded, in front of a product on stand at public display
the idea WSJ offers that the CEO of the largest consumer electronics company in the world having never previously touched or even seen 1 of their products (of the very few that they have!) until launch..... between concept, design, prototyping, testing, manufacturing, etc......... im actually astonished that WSJ would insult their readers intelligence like that.
The purpose of a company is to satisfy its owners. And in Apple's case I think the overwhelmingly majority of its owner would want, first and foremost, financial returns. Whether that's by means of being the best product manufacturer, or best services provider, is up for the owners to decide.
Based off what exactly? This article? I’d say Tim Cook and handle a lot more than you’re clearly not giving him credit for, Jony Ive departure does not advocate Tim Cook not being able to handle criticism. When companies have separations from long-term employees, there’s always bound to be rumors and speculation that’s not always accurate, as I mentioned before in a previous post, the only source that matters is Jony Ive and Tim Cook themselves, not some article that’s exacerbating the issue.
The WSJ ran a front page story about Apple cutting iPhone 5 orders by like 60%. The stock took a huge hit because of it. I don’t think story was ever proven to be correct.
Okay thanks, was just curious if there was anything to show this. I’m not sure that people who comment on Internet forums/articles are a reliable source of such a claim.
When it comes to peoples reputations, company stock performance and at its worst, riots in the streets.. the media has a LOT to answer for.
Personally, to me, what's on national television and print newspaper articles/websites these days is as credible as any internet forum poster / blogger. It's always just someones opinion, and they answer just as little to when they make mistakes and do zero to clean up the mess it causes. I don't take the pity on journalism some do because of this.
Look what it's done in the US with Trump and in the UK with leaving the EU. Caused massive outrage by winding up the populations.
Personally, to me, what's on national television and print newspaper articles/websites these days is as credible as any internet forum poster / blogger. It's always just someones opinion, and they answer just as little to when they make mistakes and do zero to clean up the mess it causes. I don't take the pity on journalism some do because of this.
Look what it's done in the US with Trump and in the UK with leaving the EU. Caused massive outrage by winding up the populations.
Who ***** cares who, what, why, when or where? Jobs died and Ive left after being given free rein to do as he pleased. The issue might have been that he is so child-like that he needed someone to tell him what worked and what did not. He was a ship without a course plotted. I don't know or care why he left, but he definitely stayed at Apple longer than most people will ever work at the same company. All the rumors and innuendo are meaningless. It is much not bitching about missing ports and mag-safe. They are not coming back so just get over it.
...and for the naysayers look at what they have released in the past year. Lots of computer updates and the long-awaited MacPro. Pricey yes, but if that is your concern then you are not the customer they are concerned with and their will never be a cheap upgradeable Mac.
...and for the naysayers look at what they have released in the past year. Lots of computer updates and the long-awaited MacPro. Pricey yes, but if that is your concern then you are not the customer they are concerned with and their will never be a cheap upgradeable Mac.
I sort of agree with you in that regard. That doesn't mean they weren't told that by a credible source at Apple. You think they just made it up? Really? It's not Info Wars--it's the WSJ. What are they supposed to say to their readers? A disclaimer? "This might sound crazy, but..."
Your comment re: him being childlike. I think they're something to that.
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I mean, do you people think this story is made up? The Journal just decided to start baseless rumors? That they didn't vet their sources?
Like I said to someone else---this isn't Info Wars.
Notable is the lack of any counter to the claims of Jony's frustration.
I'm surprised it has taken JI so long to realise he's been - to put in London vernacular - played for a c**t by TC. He's not been on products for years but look at these pages and the amount of abuse Ive gets for the products. Unfortunately at that level you can't really take the conversation into the car park.
I'm surprised it has taken JI so long to realise he's been - to put in London vernacular - played for a c**t by TC. He's not been on products for years but look at these pages and the amount of abuse Ive gets for the products. Unfortunately at that level you can't really take the conversation into the car park.
Geniuses like Jony Ive dont give a **** about what posters say on an anonymous Internet forum. (To that end TC probably doesn’t care either and if you notice Apple has not taken some of the “suggestions”) however it’s more likely no one was “played” and Tim and Jony had something worked out.
But we’ll all believe what our biases let us believe (myself included)
I agree 100%. In addition I think it’s time for Ive to move on. Ive may have had the final say but am I to believe he is the only talented on that can make those decisions. There is always someone with more talent and fresh ideas.
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Do you really think that this has any chance of happening at all? The answer is no.