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Apple CEO Tim Cook Calls Recent WSJ Report About Jony Ive 'Absurd'

Glockworkorange said:
I sort of agree with you in that regard. That doesn't mean they weren't told that by a credible source at Apple. You think they just made it up? Really? It's not Info Wars--it's the WSJ. What are they supposed to say to their readers? A disclaimer? "This might sound crazy, but..."
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Yes, journalists have a responsibility to perform due diligence in their reporting.

At the very least, qualify the more outlandish statements with disclaimers e.g. "many sources corroborated that...".

Passing off outrageous claims -- that doesnt pass the sniff test even to us outsiders -- in a careless and blase' way is irresponsible.

ESPN for a long-time used to be about sports reporting. Their programming told us with stats and facts what transpired in games. When the internet came about and provided everyone with easy access to that information, they morphed into sports opinions and pushed debate-shows hosted by raving lunatics barking controversial opinions based on rumors, tweets, and drama.

It turned into tabloid entertainment. And a respected newsprint like WSJ shouldnt degrade itself to that level.
 
thettareddast said:
The purpose of a company is to satisfy its owners.
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That is not true, and you obviously have no idea how business works.

The purpose of a company, any company, is to satisfy its CUSTOMERS. Any company which doesn't do that will fail.
 
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Winni said:
People will feel when you're just in it to squeeze money out of them and they will take their business somewhere else.
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The soldered in 128GB SSD in the new base minis, paired with the $$$ increase, feels that way. For Cripe's sake, I've got USB sticks that big!
 
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thettareddast said:
Yes, journalists have a responsibility to perform due diligence in their reporting.

At the very least, qualify the more outlandish statements with disclaimers e.g. "many sources corroborated that...".

Passing off outrageous claims -- that doesnt pass the sniff test even to us outsiders -- in a careless and blase' way is irresponsible.

ESPN for a long-time used to be about sports reporting. Their programming told us with stats and facts what transpired in games. When the internet came about and provided everyone with easy access to that information, they morphed into sports opinions and pushed debate-shows hosted by raving lunatics barking controversial opinions based on rumors, tweets, and drama.

It turned into tabloid entertainment. And a respected newsprint like WSJ shouldnt degrade itself to that level.
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I think the Journal was very clear it spoke to multiple sources for over a year.

They were clearly told this, as fantastical as it sounds. Maybe it's true. I obviously don't know, but I don't think they'd write that based off a hunch. They were told this by someone fairly high up.

Or maybe you think you're just smarter or more in the know than the people who make their living doing this kind of thing?
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nibbas said:
sad that tim cook even reads the wall street journal
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Why? Next to the Times (and maybe The Post), it's the most important paper in the country.
 
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Glockworkorange said:
Ive was like a brilliant writer missing an editor. That’s partly what Jobs was (at least I think).

Re: the trash can—that machine was previewed about a year after Jobs’ death. I have to think Jobs approved that design before he died—in other words, I don’t think the trash can is all on Jony.
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Yes it seems it could have been the new cube. Except would Jobs have killed the full tower or released up dated specs and forced a face lifted case design from Jony.
 
Glockworkorange said:
I think the Journal was very clear it spoke to multiple sources for over a year.

They were clearly told this, as fantastical as it sounds. Maybe it's true. I obviously don't know, but I don't think they'd write that based off a hunch. They were told this by someone fairly high up.

Or maybe you think you're just smarter or more in the know than the people who make their living doing this kind of thing?...
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Dan Rather was also in the know.
 
Glockworkorange said:
Or maybe you think you're just smarter or more in the know than the people who make their living doing this kind of thing?
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I have no interest in comparing my own intelligence against anyone else's.

I do suggest that people in general, you included, have sufficient intelligence to consider the assertion that the chief executive of one of the highest profile companies in the world not having never seen the hardware products his company launches. especially considering that category earns 80% of his company's revenues.
 
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From another article, found via yahoo finance in CNBC:

"It's important to note that Cook didn't refute any of the facts in the Journal's story, and the paper told NBC News that it stands by its reporting. Plus, the carefully worded response was nowhere near as strong as when Cook called for a full retraction of Bloomberg's "Big Hack" story last year."
 
Years ago he also said that they had the most amazing products in the pipeline. That’s true in the watch and AirPods. They reimagined their category, which is what Apple does best.

We also got bendable phones with no remaining smaller option. We got unreliable, non-upgradeable, overpriced laptops.

He may be great at his job. But the magic is dwindling.
 
BigDO said:
That is not true, and you obviously have no idea how business works.

The purpose of a company, any company, is to satisfy its CUSTOMERS. Any company which doesn't do that will fail.
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many companies exists in all locations at all scales, many of which dont have customers -- or the ones in the traditional sense that you think about. their owners - be it private, public, or anywhere in between, all have different goals and exit strategies, many of which dont involve putting customers first.

in fact, i guarantee youve run into these businesses.

im interested in hearing your obviously vast and wisened experience though.
 
thettareddast said:
Yes, journalists have a responsibility to perform due diligence in their reporting.
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This is a really bad argument and maybe you’re uneducated a bit. Journalists have a direct responsibility to actually discuss the topic at hand, but what they _shouldn’t_ do and what they tend to do most times, is input their own anecdotes or opinions, ‘hear-say’ to exacerbate something that didn’t happen beyond their own knowledge. They do this for ‘clicks’, to draw attention and create controversy. Respectable/responsible journalists discuss the topic and allow the readers to make their own viewpoints without having to clear the issue. Case in point, this very own article is an example of that.
 
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Doctor Q said:
Amidst these claims and counterclaims, we need to hear from Jony himself. What say you, Mr. Ive?
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Dear Mr. Doctor Q,

I am currently too busy with my exciting new projects to respond to what amounts to meaningless, idle, speculation.

- Jony
 
Abazigal said:
That’s Macrumours in a nutshell. Their loathing for Apple now is so great that they can’t resist the siren’s call of an Apple hit piece, even though it’s clearly fake news.
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Now that's fanboy-ism dialed up to 11... I've been loyal to Apple since the first West Coast Computer Faire and even I am not going to declaratively state this article is false... not only I'm not overly surprised at the claims at all (if indeed true).
 
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Yourbigpalal83 said:
What they need there is another Rebel, another Steve Jobs who cares more about changing the world then making a profit!
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That is awfully naive! Steve Jobs was one of the greediest people on the planet. He had absolutely no desire to change the world. He only cared about making the largest profits he could. I'm glad he is gone and so is Ive. Maybe we can start getting devices with the emphasis placed on function rather than BS form.
 
To be honest, I'm surprised a lot of folks still take news seriously. Then to add insult to injury, when a person closer to the situation speaks up and denies the story, the ignorant masses continue to believe what was printed. What could be a motive for printing sensational fiction you ask? Money! It's no secret printed news is on its way to extinction. We also have learned that with media truth and it's simplicity is considered boring/not interesting. This article did exactly what the paper wanted, it generated buzz and stirred up fanatics/haters to debate this piece. Now this article is retweeted and posted across the web and the writer will be getting a bonus.

I learned many years ago that the media is suspect at best way before Trump made it a thing. A buddy of mine posted a comment in the ESPN forums about Shaq demanding a trade to some team. ESPN took that comment and ran a story on it and even had one of the talking heads mention it on air. As you can guess, they used the phrase "one of our sources stated..."

If you read the news, you are misinformed. If you don't read the news, you are uninformed....
 
The 'Blow You Away' comment elicits a roll of the eyes, particularly since Cook has leaned on that lever for years. Indeed, from cars to TVs, this whole 'promise of what's to come' rings kind of hollow now.
 
az431 said:
Tim Cook called the article absurd and a distortion of reality. Doesn’t get much clearer than that.
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For sure on that. It's adorable seeing so many here furiously trying to make the story into something else.
 
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