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Apple CEO Tim Cook Calls Reports That iPhone XR is a Flop 'Bologna'
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? Not so much lately.
You can blame Apple for not marketing it properly and not making it obvious what is toucheable. For those that use it it’s an invaluable feature.
I will never buy an iPhone without 3D Touch. Same with an OLED screen.
I appreciate your perspective. I just think you're in a very small minority of users. And I agree re: Apple. The interface is poor. It's hunt and peck. But the bigger problem is lack of support across all devices. Every device needs it or a lot of developers won't support it (as we've seen). Personally I never use it and probably wouldn't even notice if they removed it.
Timmy C: "It's not a flop, honestly guys, believe me."
Investors: "So, show us the numbers then."
Timmy C: "I don't wanna."
Investors: "So, show us the numbers then."
Timmy C: "I don't wanna."
Do other phone makers report these numbers? No.
With so much fake news, is it as important as revenue and earnings?
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How about iPhone X last year? Was it a flop? Lol. What are you concerned about?
Stop it. No other company breaks out sales numbers. Apple didn't break out numbers for a long time either. Once they had a huge hit, Jobs started breaking out numbers to brag. Everyone knows the market is saturated. Flattening sales isn't a problem unique to Apple. Unit sales aren't nearly as important as overall revenue and installed base. Installed base continues to grow. That's the most important metric to follow. You can't look at Apple as a single product company. It's the value of the customer relationship that matters. Can they get their iOS installed base to buy other products? The answer is yes, as evidenced by the continuing growth in services and "other" products. It's pretty obvious to anyone who isn't a hater why they stopped breaking out sales numbers.
I'm one of those who purchased a new battery for my ageing iPhone 6 Plus to tide me over for a while.
I might get an iPhoneXS if theres a good deal come up, but I'm thinking to hold out till the 2019 model is released [and possibly get the 2018 at a discount].
The iPhones are made so well that they do last for a long time, and the updates to iOS recently have made the software more efficient on older CPUs.
When I looked at the phones in store I thought the XR was too bulky. Its slightly smaller than my iPhone 6 Plus, but thicker and seems heavier, or at least not as well weighted in the hand. I'd like an XR that was a bit smaller like the XS size.
I might get an iPhoneXS if theres a good deal come up, but I'm thinking to hold out till the 2019 model is released [and possibly get the 2018 at a discount].
The iPhones are made so well that they do last for a long time, and the updates to iOS recently have made the software more efficient on older CPUs.
When I looked at the phones in store I thought the XR was too bulky. Its slightly smaller than my iPhone 6 Plus, but thicker and seems heavier, or at least not as well weighted in the hand. I'd like an XR that was a bit smaller like the XS size.
Apple CEO Tim Cook recently sat down for an interview with Mad Money's Jim Cramer, which aired today at 6:00 p.m Eastern Time. CNBC shared tidbits of the interview this morning, but now the full discussion is available.
Cook covered topics that include Apple's recent earnings downgrade, Apple's performance in China, iPhone upgrades, how well the iPhone XR sold, and more.
When asked about reports that the iPhone XR was a flop, Cook says he calls "bologna on that." The iPhone XR has, in fact, been the most popular iPhone "every single day" since it started shipping out to customers.
Cook did, however, demure when asked about iPhone XR sales relative to other sales, saying only that he'd like to sell more, and that Apple is "working on that."
According to Cook, naysayers have been saying similar things about Apple for many years now, but Apple is focused on the long term. Cook pointed towards Apple's large active install base, high customer satisfaction rating, and growing services business as positives.
On the topic of poor iPhone sales in China, Cook said that the Chinese economy is slowing, and that trade tension with the U.S. created a "more-sharp downturn." He said that he believes trade tensions are temporary, and that he's heard "some very encouraging words" recently.
As for upgrades, which were impacted in 2018 by the availability of cheaper $29 battery replacements for older devices, Cook said he's not bothered, and that the number of iPhones sold in a 90-day period, which many analysts believe is the "most important metric" is "far, far, far" down on his list of concerns.Apple does plan to encourage upgrades, however, through features like new phone setup, data transfer, and older device trade-ins to lower the base cost of a new device.
Cook went on to explain that Apple's "not about making the cheapest" products, instead focusing on making the "best product that enriches people's lives."The most important thing, says Cook, is that "customers are satisfied."
A full transcript of Cook's Mad Money interview is available from CNBC.
Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook Calls Reports That iPhone XR is a Flop 'Bologna'
Not to be that guy, but I'm going to be that guy - it's demur, not demure.
https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/chooseyourwords/demur-demure/
I love 3D Touch and use it constantly on my 7. It feels downright odd not to be able to do it on my iPad. It would be a huge step backwards to lose it.
Article should be corrected. Tim Cook did use the variation “baloney” in the interview, not “bologna,” which is pronounced differently.
Yes in fact you have. If you been spelling it that way.
Doesn’t look like a sausage to me
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I did the same with my 7+ and my wife’s 6S+. Figured that next year I we would pick up dropped price 8+ when the new models come out, as those are the final touchID phones with home button. Won’t be using faceID any time soon.
Clearly you’ve never taken a subway ride in NYC lol
You’re always extremely close to people on the train and those humongous bezels on the XR can be determined from afar haha
I could only afford an XR, so I got it.. Imagine Tim, if you had lower pricing, even by $150 a phone, how many more, and how many more profits you would have sold/made... Yeah, just imagine.... But that's ok.. You still have the Fanboys to support you no matter the price.. ie: Home speaker ****.. anyone really buy that stuff? In our homes , isn't it our Stereos we use? Well I do.. Hey Siri.. nah, nevermind, I will just use my remote. thx.
Let me sum up ... overpriced under featured crap ... that’s what they produce lately.
If people like that, buy apple!
I agree. I absolutely love my XR. There’s not a single flaw. The display is perfect, the camera is great, battery life is outstanding. Less is more!
bologna huh ? I think Tim just invented something right there. Google search only reveals "its the City in Italy"
Not exactly the one i'm wanting.
People always say that first off about any phone though.... It may not happen to you, but it will happen to someone...
I don't think now, Apple can't even though a cycle without issuing a replacement program of the sort. That tells me this is not the only thing that's dropping.
Not exactly the one i'm wanting.
People always say that first off about any phone though.... It may not happen to you, but it will happen to someone...
I don't think now, Apple can't even though a cycle without issuing a replacement program of the sort. That tells me this is not the only thing that's dropping.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/01/08/apple-ceo-tim-cook-on-xr-sales/
So...bologna huh? I mean yeah, it’s not exactly a “flop” but it’s clearly underperforming expectations.
So...bologna huh? I mean yeah, it’s not exactly a “flop” but it’s clearly underperforming expectations.
During Apple's Holiday trade-in deal, I exchanged my 3 y.o. 6s ($200) for the XR 64 GB ($750)......so, $550 net cost. I probably could have sold it for more myself, but I didn't want to hassle with that. I figure if I keep it for 3 years, it's about $180 per year or $15 per month....not bad really.
I really like the XR: Bigger screen, better camera, portrait mode, Face ID, water resistant, better speakers, more storage, better battery life, A10 Bionic chip, etc. It is a big step up for me. I can read books and business documents on the bigger screen so I don't need to carry around an iPad. Watching videos is actually a pretty nice experience too. Overall, I am pleased.
Anyway, I am not saying the XR is for everyone, but if you paid $750 for a base 6s plus with 16 GB storage three years ago, you will probably be happy with the $250 trading-in and upgrading to the XR for the same price. You might also be happy if you are coming from the 7/7plus. It is a less compelling upgrade if you have the 8 plus. But, the XR is really not intended to be an annually upgraded device for people that want the latest and greatest. It is better suited for people that keep their phones for a few years.....which is an increasingly larger segment of the smartphone consumers.
I really like the XR: Bigger screen, better camera, portrait mode, Face ID, water resistant, better speakers, more storage, better battery life, A10 Bionic chip, etc. It is a big step up for me. I can read books and business documents on the bigger screen so I don't need to carry around an iPad. Watching videos is actually a pretty nice experience too. Overall, I am pleased.
Anyway, I am not saying the XR is for everyone, but if you paid $750 for a base 6s plus with 16 GB storage three years ago, you will probably be happy with the $250 trading-in and upgrading to the XR for the same price. You might also be happy if you are coming from the 7/7plus. It is a less compelling upgrade if you have the 8 plus. But, the XR is really not intended to be an annually upgraded device for people that want the latest and greatest. It is better suited for people that keep their phones for a few years.....which is an increasingly larger segment of the smartphone consumers.
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Folks keep saying the market is saturated and not growing, which may be the case and a suitable excuse for declining numbers, but here is the point because in this new world, some manufacturers are still experiencing huge growth in their numbers and if the market is stagnated then they are growing because of what are known as conquest sales, that is taking share from someone else, e.g. Apple, HTC, Sony and Samsung. So numbers of phones sold is important (though no one is obligated to share their numbers), because revenue only goes so far in telling the story. As we have seen for the last 2-3 quarters Apple’s revenue has held up because of the new pricing, but if actual phones sold is declining, then eventually that starts to impact other things for Apple. No iPhone sale, then no Apple Watch sale, no $39 case sale, no AppleCare sale, likely no iCloud sale, likely no Apple Music sale. If folks start not relying on the Apple eco-system, then no Mac sale?
The reason Apple used to “brag” about iPhone numbers was two fold, one to literally brag (and intimidate competitors) and the other was to tell the market about the sales tail, that is all those add ons that were going drive future revenue (and stock price) for every iPhone sold.
So, declining numbers of phones (because of price, saturated market, stronger competition) and the inability to maintain high pricing (easy in an exploding market) is a big deal and goes far beyond “releasing iPhone sales numbers”
And herein lies the problem with 3D Touch. It's not universally supported on all iOS devices. Many developers don't support it for this reason. I appreciate why some people like it. Personally I'm not one of them. I never use it. The UI is terrible. There's nothing to indicate that an object is 3D Touch-able. You have to hunt and peck to see where it works. I don't have a problem with the concept, but the implementation is poor and the lack of universal support (in hardware) makes it a questionable feature in my mind. My guess is that less than 20% of iOS users even use it.