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It’s great. I’m impressed by it. You still get quality portrait shots with the rear camera. You just can’t take rear camera portrait shots of non humans unfortunately though.



I absolutely agree. Sounds like the perfect pricing scheme to me and I too want a smaller, cheaper XR!
i really don't understand why you switched from X to XR and call it the best decision.
Either you saved a lot of money or something else because apart from bigger battery the rest is super negligible.
In contrast, I'm still on iPhone 6 as I replaced the battery and that itself gave it more life. I had iPhone 8 last year but returned it due to not worth the cost.
I could probably get the flagship phone now and say its big thing and it would probably be more spot on than going from X to XR as that really is minimal on daily basis. (sure you can nitpick but in the end it really is negligible).
So good for you that you feel happy but I wouldn't have done it. Well, I wouldn't get the X in the first place as the price tag is/was crazy high :)
Anyway, best of luck :)
 
Why do these interviewers never, ever ask about smaller phones. I am really hoping we have a phone smaller than XR (no larger than 6s) to be available in the XR price range.

Also, why do they conduct interviews in such uncomfortable chairs?
 
Folks keep saying the market is saturated and not growing, which may be the case and a suitable excuse for declining numbers, but here is the point because in this new world, some manufacturers are still experiencing huge growth in their numbers and if the market is stagnated then they are growing because of what are known as conquest sales, that is taking share from someone else, e.g. Apple, HTC, Sony and Samsung.

Growth is not happening at the high end. It's happening at the low end. Apple doesn't offer a low end phone, for better or worse. No cheap phone is taking away an iPhone sale. That person was never going to buy an iPhone. Data shows more Android switchers to iPhone than the other way around. Data does not show iPhone users abandoning the iPhone in favor of Galaxy or Pixel or any other "premium" smartphone.

So numbers of phones sold is important (though no one is obligated to share their numbers), because revenue only goes so far in telling the story.

It's actually not important. If it were, other companies would have been releasing numbers all along too. It was just bragging rights. What's important is user base. In January 2016, Apple had 1 billion active iOS devices. In February 2018, that number grew to 1.3 billion. Installed base is the critical metric.

As we have seen for the last 2-3 quarters Apple’s revenue has held up because of the new pricing, but if actual phones sold is declining, then eventually that starts to impact other things for Apple.

Not really. Take the watch. Supposedly they sold 20 million watches last year. They sold over 200 million iPhones, right? How many iPhones are out in the wild? If there are over 1.3 billion activate iOS devices, let's assume 70% are iPhones. Apple still has hundreds of million of potential Watch (and AirPod and iCloud and Apple Music and...) customers even if iPhones sales tank.

No iPhone sale, then no Apple Watch sale, no $39 case sale, no AppleCare sale, likely no iCloud sale, likely no Apple Music sale. If folks start not relying on the Apple eco-system, then no Mac sale?

We're SO FAR away from that happening simply because they sold a few million less iPhones than they did in the same quarter last year. This sales numbers hysteria is so ridiculous. Think! iPhone sales were bound to flatten out at some point and will likely decline a bit and level out as upgrade cycles lengthen. And, again, the active iOS user base continues to grow. People who have never owned an iPhone buy a used one or receive a gift from a friend. That's not a new sale, but it is a new iOS user and, at some point, probably a new customer for Apple.

The reason Apple used to “brag” about iPhone numbers was two fold, one to literally brag (and intimidate competitors) and the other was to tell the market about the sales tail, that is all those add ons that were going drive future revenue (and stock price) for every iPhone sold.

It was bragging. They don't need to release sales numbers to tell the market about the sales tail. Continued growth in services and "other" are already doing that. We don't need unit sales numbers to see that Apple is continuing to sell more accessories and services to iPhone owners. And if you're a third party hardware manufacturer, my guess is that you're more concerned about the size of the installed base than any quarter's sales numbers. Stock price should be about revenue, not any one particular product's sales numbers. By focusing so much on unit sales, Apple unintentionally linked stock price with unit sales. Cook is trying to end that nonsense and get the market focused on what really matters, overall revenue. As I've said before, it's about the value of the total customer relationship, not what particular product that customer buys in any given quarter.

So, declining numbers of phones (because of price, saturated market, stronger competition) and the inability to maintain high pricing (easy in an exploding market) is a big deal and goes far beyond “releasing iPhone sales numbers”

No, it's not a big deal. It's just handwringing hysteria. Apple can't control the saturated market. As for stronger competition, what competition? What evidence is there to show that Apple users are abandoning the platform and choosing another product instead? And given that Apple's guidance for the quarter is still $84B, I don't think Apple has had much trouble maintaining higher pricing. I do think their top of the line phones are too expensive and I expect the prices to drop next cycle, but, again, there's no evidence that people are leaving the platform in droves because of higher prices. That is all just Apple hater hysteria.
 
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Was in one of the apple stores in Hong Kong yesterday and was surprised to see the Xr being bought left right and centre. Admittedly only anecdotal as I was there for a short time, but given all this doom and gloom were reading about the Xr I expected most customers to be after the Xs. That certainly wasn’t the case.

At the same time, I’ve seen only one in the wild - and everyone is on their phone all the time in this city (subway, steeet, wherever)! Most have an X or Xs.
 
They sold so many that they cut the production of both XR and XS by 10% percent. Obviously that's the reason. /s

Just believe it, no need to show sold unit numbers or anything.
 
bologna / baloney. “Bologna” is the name of a city in Italy, pronounced “boh-LOAN-ya.” But although the sausage named after the city in English is spelled the same, it is prononced “buh-LOAN-ee” and is often spelled “baloney.” ... When it means “nonsense,” the standard spelling is “baloney.”

Precisely. CNBC's editors should presumably have taken courses in English grammar and vocabulary, and as a purported purveyor of journalism, should understand the difference. MacRumors compounds the error by not correcting it, thereby implicitly misinforming the ignorant among us.

Please, folks. It's this lack of attention to detail which really functions as the canary in the coal mine for the state of the world. If your job is to write words, you should understand what the heck you're writing and how it will be interpreted by others.

Bologna is the city, bologna is the meat, baloney is the nonsense. Get it? Got it?

Good.
 
Depending on the price, might have considered it if the XR would of been a smaller phone.
 
And exactly how close do you get to a stranger's phone in the wild to determine whether it was an X, Xs, Xs max or an Xr? Throw a case on those and it is hard to tell from a distance other than the camera on the back.


Cook, says its been their best selling phone since its was introduced. What does that say about the rest of them including the Xs and the max?

The XR has a noticeabley thicker bezel and the screen quality and colour is different to the XS models. I can spot them straight away.

I havent actually seen a XR in the wild here in the UK since they launched.
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The “this” is a that TC cares about your money...that is it. Foolish to think otherwise. If TC cared about the customer, he wouldn’t still be sticking 5400 rpm drives in overpriced computers and he wouldn’t be charging several times market price for memory and SSD storage.

I agree. 1TB SSD should be standard now across the Mac lineup. 128GB and 256GB should be banished from the notebooks.
 
I have an Xr. It's the phone for people coming from much older phones who didn't want to get an SE (or in my case: the carrier had stopped selling/subsidizing them, so I couldn't buy one with the contract-subsidy).
I had an iPhone 4S. For various reasons, I used it for over 6 years, no 6 years and 8 months. Battery life was a joke.
The only thing about the Xr that I miss from the 4S is the flat backside. That bump is horrible but I acknowledge that Apple can't change the law of physics.
 
Perspective: The XR is a doggone miracle. Phone, messenger, gateway to the Internet, Office 365, encrypted personal information manager, PDF manager, todo planner, calendar, cloud access, camera, photo editor/manager, video camera/editor, games, tides, navigation on the highway, walking and at sea, weather, robust hardware, fitness monitor, long battery life and so much more. Including sync with our desktops and laptops. All in a pocketable package. All 4 of us in this now adult family upgraded from our 4 year-old model 6 iPhones and couldn’t be happier.
 
This is the time to load up on Apple stock. It will easily double within the next year or two (assuming the clown in charge of this great country doesn't completely destroy our economy in that time).

I've been a shareholder for over 25 years, and over that time the stock has thrived despite two recessions, Steve Jobs's death, and a myriad of other short-term downswings caused by emotional selling precipitated by clueless talking heads. Trolls have predicted doom and gloom during that entire time, even when Steve Jobs was around, and none of it has ever come true.

The bottom line is Apple is running on all cylinders, and well positioned to continue to succeed. And I say that even as I question their ability to succeed in their redoubled efforts to expand into services, and area that Apple has mixed results in over the years. They are simply leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else in their ability to create innovative products that anyone can use, and couple that with great customer service and attention to detail.
The problem with having that attitude towards Apple stock is you blindly believe in Apple no-matter what happens:

Stock goes down = Hey! Great time to buy "It will easily double within the next year or two"
Stock goes up = Hey! Look how great we've doing, first (briefly) trillion dollar company!

If that's your attitude there's no point trying to justify it as Apple can never do any wrong in your eyes.
 
And herein lies the problem with 3D Touch. It's not universally supported on all iOS devices. Many developers don't support it for this reason. I appreciate why some people like it. Personally I'm not one of them. I never use it. The UI is terrible. There's nothing to indicate that an object is 3D Touch-able. You have to hunt and peck to see where it works. I don't have a problem with the concept, but the implementation is poor and the lack of universal support (in hardware) makes it a questionable feature in my mind. My guess is that less than 20% of iOS users even use it.
3DTouch offers many pressure levels, that neither Apple nor devs ever used or implemented.
Its current use could also be easily implemented in SW with a long press detection. I am puzzled that they never did that.
 
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The iPhone XR has, in fact, been the most popular iPhone "every single day" since it started shipping out to customers.

Cook did, however, demure when asked about iPhone XR sales relative to other sales, saying only that he'd like to sell more, and that Apple is "working on that."

Ah, so it is the XS and XS Max that are flops then? Who would have guessed that by raising prices you would sell less of a device. I guess as long as the price rise covers the loss in sales, Apple will be fine.
 
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Then release the numbers Tim. What are you afraid of?
Why are you assuming he is afraid? Of what? Apple released numbers for years. Do competitors release their earnings? Apple doesn’t have to release ‘numbers’, nor do they owe that to anyone.
You seem to be unaware how the financial world works and thinks.
Fund managers are constantly looking at risk, positions, relative performance, corp. news etc.
The way Apple positioned itself, as the premier and most successful company in the world, it has become the incumbent and it will always be associated with volume, growth, records, sales.
To maintain that, they will have to deliver metrics. To that end, they usually change the context around these numbers to still report some record. Like “the first week” or “reservations in the West” or “based on pre-order data received before launch”.
Now apparently it has become too cumbersome or difficult to find such context, or sales just have gone bad. To investors, that is a really bad sign - especially for a company that as become so dependent on a single product category and became widely considered overpriced.

Not releasing sales numbers can be almost as bad as posting bad sales numbers - if there are no credible circumstances. Tim’s growth expectations were always high for China and India - but never materialised and Apple’s outlook in those countries is far worse than expected.
To see how Tim’s tenure is received in the financial markets, take a look at the stock trend.
Tim hinting at the longer term seems to be buying time, but I don’t see how a company he made so addicted to money can survive its downfall unless the pipeline is full with compelling new products or markets.
 
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I want the customer to be happy. We work for them. And so the important thing is that they're happy. Because if they're happy, they will eventually replace that product with another.

I am not happy with the value of the current notebooks so I am still waiting to replace my 2012 MacBook Pro.

I am also not happy with the prices of the current iPhones so I just bought a new iPhone 7 last fall.

Not happy Tim. Not replacing with new products.
 
The bottom line is Apple is running on all cylinders, and well positioned to continue to succeed. And I say that even as I question their ability to succeed in their redoubled efforts to expand into services, and area that Apple has mixed results in over the years. They are simply leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else in their ability to create innovative products that anyone can use, and couple that with great customer service and attention to detail.

This. I think a lot of people complaining about pricing always forget how good Apple's customer service is and of course you have to pay a premium price for that. Just yesterday I went to the Apple Store to replace my 7 Plus battery (it's going to be my gf's new phone since I switched to XS)... long story short, touch ID not working anymore (they told me it happens sometimes with new batteries) and they gave me a brand new 7 Plus for the price of a battery swap. In one hour. What other company can do this? Google? Samsung? LOL.
 
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The problem with Tim's statement below is that people got in to the ecosystem with Mac Mini's at 400, Macbook Air's at 729, iPads at 349, iPhones at 599, Retina Macbook Pro 15'' are 2000 (USD/GBP pricing). To stay in the ecosystem now the comparable Apple products are almost double that pricing. It's like they have grown this ecosystem and then pulled up the walls of entry. The ecosystem is fantastic but other companies sell laptops with the same/very similar or better Intel chips at cheaper prices. Apple A Series chips are great but flagship android devices aren't slouches either and have significantly cheaper entry points.

''I want the customer to be happy. We work for them. And so the important thing is that they're happy. Because if they're happy, they will eventually replace that product with another. And the services and the ecosystem around that will thrive.''
 
Wow what a slowball interview. The interviewer doesn't need to roast Cook, but certainly also shouldn't compliment and defend Apple on himself all the time. As an outsider, has all American journalism come to Trump/Fox levels?
 
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Wow what a slowball interview. The interviewer doesn't need to roast Cook, but certainly also shouldn't compliment and defend Apple on himself all the time. As an outsider, has all American journalism come to Trump/Fox levels?

As outsiders like ourselves, it's not just Trump/Fox, but also CNN, prominent tech news sites and news sites that have nothing to do with tech but report on it.
 
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