Apple CEO Tim Cook: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Will Trigger 'Mother of All Upgrades'

[Trapezoid]

You sound pretty insecure yourself. Had the comparison gone the other way, it would had been wonderful, hilarious, very true and full of insight.

This statement makes no sense.

Not really, it's just a factual comparison.

No it's not just a factual comparison. It's full of smug remarks, and putdowns. It's a pissing contest in the form of a graphic.

There's so much childish bickering and aggression between fans of brands but somewhere, in the real world, the majority of people are like me:

I like Apple products, I've had the 3G, 4, 5 and iPad 2. I've not owned an Android device, I've used a couple briefly and not felt much either way, they seemed ok but I'd need more time to adjust 100% before having a solid opinion.

This is how I am too. I have a g3 and an ipad. I didnt go on iphone forums and create idiotic graphics after I got my g3 to tell everyone there how much better it is. That's insecurity.

This latest keynote and launch left me a bit cold. No excitement, nothing great, seems a lot of effort gone on the watch and the phones almost left to the B-team (even though the watch looks pretty amateurish too and doesn't know if it wants to be a fashion piece, a cool gadget or a sports accessory and unconvincingly falls somewhere between the three).

I didn't see anything exciting either. The phone is going to be the best selling phone ever, but i won't be getting it. Again, I'm not planning to make fun of those who do. That's insecurity.

Now I'm due an upgrade I'm totally on the fence, I may make the jump to Android but I'm not sure. I'm a little tied to Apple but then the tie with iTunes is one I'd gladly sever for some easy "drag and drop" file functionality.

Not everyone is a Fanboy, a Sheep, a hater or worshipper - some of us are just normal people who like our tech gadgets but also have free will and want the best for our money. Weird eh.

Not weird at all. What's weird is seeing a keynote then running to Photoshop and creating a graphic that says "if you need help ask an android user" and "welcome to 2012". That's what's kids do. I suspect the person who made that graphic is a kid.

 

[GekiRed]

Not really, it's just a factual comparison.

There's so much childish bickering and aggression between fans of brands but somewhere, in the real world, the majority of people are like me:

I like Apple products, I've had the 3G, 4, 5 and iPad 2. I've not owned an Android device, I've used a couple briefly and not felt much either way, they seemed ok but I'd need more time to adjust 100% before having a solid opinion.

This latest keynote and launch left me a bit cold. No excitement, nothing great, seems a lot of effort gone on the watch and the phones almost left to the B-team (even though the watch looks pretty amateurish too and doesn't know if it wants to be a fashion piece, a cool gadget or a sports accessory and unconvincingly falls somewhere between the three).

Now I'm due an upgrade I'm totally on the fence, I may make the jump to Android but I'm not sure. I'm a little tied to Apple but then the tie with iTunes is one I'd gladly sever for some easy "drag and drop" file functionality.

Not everyone is a Fanboy, a Sheep, a hater or worshipper - some of us are just normal people who like our tech gadgets but also have free will and want the best for our money. Weird eh.

I'm glad to see there's someone else who's just like me when it comes to their interest in both major operating systems.

It's just a shame that the majority of fanboys on both sides come across as stark raving lunatics! Fine, we get it, you're a Apple/Android fanboy but it doesn't give you the right to act like a immature loser who can't accept (as I mentioned in a previous post in this thread) that iOS and Android both have their pluses and minuses!

 

[mantan]

Yup competition has been great. However, the phone market is now mature and the competition has nothing further to offer. Feature parity has been achieved. We can now watch Android destroy itself in a race to the bottom while Apple walks away with the $. The PC industry has undergone the same thing.

There will of course be competition and innovation in the future, just not in the phone space.

I don't know. A lazy unmotivated Apple has historically proven to put out incremental junk increases (see iMac, IPT and Mac Mini)....

Apple lovers need to think as consumers first and cheerleaders second. They don't 'win' when Apple dominates a market completely unchallenged.

 

[symphara]

This statement makes no sense.

Your reading comprehension is very limited then!

 

[jasonbogen]

No, Tim Cook. I won't be upgrading to a huge phone with garish antenna lines.

I'm hugely pro Apple on most things, but this is one you can't argue. Who the hell thought that was aesthetically acceptable? Zombie Steve is coming after him first during the apocalypse.

That being said, this is the upgrade I have waited 3 years for. A bigger screen and better camera are my 2 most wanted features. I didn't want the 5.5" thinking it's too big, but I definitely want the optical image stabilization so I think I'm going for it.

 

[Trapezoid]

Your reading comprehension is very limited then!

Must be.

Your dad can probably beat up mine, too!

 

[GekiRed]

LOL, nice try.

The next few months are going to be difficult for jerks- as they are proven wrong over and over and Apple sets new records of sales, profit, marketshare, etc. while the Galaxy Gear fades into the abyss and the rest of Android continues its race to the bottom.

But yeah, grasp at every straw you can.

And it's Apple fanboys like you that make me thank God that I'm not a Apple fanboy (or a Android fanboy!) as I like both Android devices AND Apple devices!

I take it you Apple fanboys didn't get the memo that it's possible for people to like both Android AND Apple devices?

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I don't know. A lazy unmotivated Apple has historically proven to put out incremental junk increases (see iMac, IPT and Mac Mini)....

Apple lovers need to think as consumers first and cheerleaders second. They don't 'win' when Apple dominates a market completely unchallenged.

And don't forget the iPod Touch 5th gen as it's hardly worth buying as they only made minimal changes for the most part and didn't even increase the storage for the top of the range version!

 

[Trapezoid]

And it's Apple fanboys like you that make me thank God that I'm not a Apple fanboy (or a Android fanboy!) as I like both Android devices AND Apple devices!

I take it you Apple fanboys didn't get the memo that it's possible for people to like both Android AND Apple devices?

He has a point and I don't think what he said is fanboyish (but then i don't think the person he quoted was being smug either).

Whether people like it or not, NFC is going to explode now. And no, it's not because it's been growing. It's because apple added it to their phones.

And I think its a given that the iPhone will be the best selling phone. I don't recall a time where it wasn't let alone where it was even close.

All that being said, showing off because you have one brand or one OS will forever be dumb .

 

[TWSS37]

I am sure it's been said over and over but I really find it ironic that the 5.5" iPhone is 1080p. It made me laugh actually.

 

[Trapezoid]

I am sure it's been said over and over but I really find it ironic that the 5.5" iPhone is 1080p. It made me laugh actually.

Lol I had the same thought when I saw that. Almost like they wanted to make sure he saw it lol

 

[Paradoxally]

LOL - of course, all of us wanting 2 gigs are android fanboys, all macs, iphones and apple accessories we got home are just decoys to mask we got android in our hearts or you are just too blind to see that apple is selling rubbish now - 1 gig ram is crashing apps on my iphone, makes my iphone/ipad constantly refreshing tabs in safari etc etc... and by the way, i do really enjoyed moment when they showed one hand usage of those giant iphones, that was so nonApple and akward... after few years I must admit, there is no new Steve there in Apple and that is going to hurt Apple much;(

Good luck with that. Mine doesn't do that and it's a jailbroken iPhone 5. I have Android devices with 3 GB RAM that crash too, it's not the RAM requirement.

Stop with the Steve talk, let the man rest in peace. Every time Apple comes out with something people dislike, they go "Steve would never allow this". Um, you do realize he had a 4 year pipeline of products, right?

It's totally NOT going to hurt Apple. The iPhone 6 will sell as well or better than its previous generation. Do you think the average Joe gives a crap about how much RAM a phone has? Seriously? If so, you are gravely mistaken. People want EXPERIENCE, not specs (aka: does it lag? Can it run my apps fast? Can I play high-end games?). The iPhone 6 will not lag at launch or with iOS 8.

 

[Ndalby]

Apple CEO Tim Cook stated that the company expects the launch of the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus to trigger "the mother of all upgrades" as consumers consider their next smartphone purchase. Cook also added that he expects Android users to look at switching to the iPhone, claiming that the phones are "appreciably better in every single way".[\QUOTE]

They would probably look more if the hardware specs for the camera and the price matched some of the flagship Android phones. Don't get me wrong I like Apple products but the price's are crazy compared to others, for often less than what the others provide in daily functionality...

 

[Paradoxally]

They would probably look more if the hardware specs for the camera and the price matched some of the flagship Android phones. Don't get me wrong I like Apple products but the price's are crazy compared to others, for often less than what the others provide in daily functionality...

Regarding the camera, there were major improvements. Most phones boast 13-16 MP but their photos look terrible. It's not about the pixels, it's about the sensor. 8 MP is fine, as most people will use it to upload selfies or take photos and that is downscaled once it hits social network servers. If it's for storage, then they will still look good. Heck, my 2007 Sony Ericsson phone had 3.2MP and for years it was better than the iPhone's camera because of its amazing sensor.

The only phone I consider to have a way better camera is the Lumia 1020. But then you have a huge protruding camera at the back and Windows Phone OS...so there's that.

 

[Dave245]

Is there any way to watch the full interview? all i keep seeing is little different videos, i want to see the whole interview with Tim Cook, Ive and the ABC presenter.

 

[jimbobb24]

The mother of all upgrades

For Sony maybe. Or Nokia? Apple? Maybe.

Too big for me. I just want an iPhone, not iPhone-afterTimreadsinternettellinghimgobig.

 

[symphara]

Must be.

Your dad can probably beat up mine, too!

Very likely, but that has nothing to do with the topic

The point was simple: the Nexus 4 - iPhone 6 comparison is pretty funny, and while it's obvious to everyone that, leaving the software aside, the Nexus 4 is not a better device than Apple's latest (they were made several years apart), it's still remarkable how far behind iPhone is at this stage, that it's core feature set is barely on par with something as obsolete as a Nexus 4.

Of course, Apple fans who are nervous about the company's very noisy but rather thin record of innovation will call it "childish", "insecure" and other such things. But it merely shows their own shortcomings, q.e.d.

 

[Digital Skunk]

I'm firmly in the 'meh' camp and beginning to think about jumping ship, making my 'essential' list this morning in fact. The phone is nice and all but I'm not liking the direction and general lack of quality that seems to be creeping into all of their product lines. The shambolic web stream yesterday is just an illustration of this.

Anyway

Best vanilla Android phone at the moment? I had the S4 for a while last year and it was unstable (compared to iOS) and everyone keeps telling me the vanilla experience is the one I seek.

Also looking at Windows phone. I'm very impressed with the Surface Pro 3, even considering chopping in the MBP for one.

Anyone else made the same move and found it a good one?

That webcast did suck. I had to stop watching it after a while and didn't even hear about the Watch until I got home around mid evening.

On the other hand, everyone says the same thing every iPhone update.

This isn't what I wanted,
I hear Android _________ is smoother and more responsive,
I may switch to that,
I hear Windows is nice.

It's fine, I have my fair share of Windows Tablets and Android devices. Just that Android has ALWAYS been stable, just as stable as iOS IMHO. Both OSs lag and have issues.

Windows is nice, but I've found my experience better when I go the total ecosystem route. I have a Dell Venue 8 Pro and switch most of my software over to Windows based stuff and ran Windows 8 via Parallels. Considered getting a Windows laptop and stopped only because I desperately need TBolt, and the Windows system implementations don't do video and data.

The transition is easy since most of the apps that are worthy of being downloaded are cross platform.

Just wanted to point out that every user says this every year.

They tried to copy Samsung's one-hand operation and it failed.

They did and did fail miserably. That's one feature I'll be turning off when I get my 6Plus. They should have at least gone full bore copy cat and shrunk just the necessary parts of the screen like the keyboard and number pad, or shrunk the entire UI down to the 4" size of the current iPhone 5s. . . . . like the Notes do.

Samsung will need to come up with some new commercials...not looking forward to that.

True. I am stoked about that battery life.

I don't know. A lazy unmotivated Apple has historically proven to put out incremental junk increases (see iMac, IPT and Mac Mini)....

Apple lovers need to think as consumers first and cheerleaders second. They don't 'win' when Apple dominates a market completely unchallenged.

Very true. These times are showing me that Apple is going to have a hard time playing catch up on many things. They were king when they were on top, and just let the competition slide right past them. Now, Apple is 100% playing catch up and stumbling along the way.

Maybe that's why I like this iPhone . . . . it screams underdog.

 

[deluxeshredder]

I strongly prefer Android and I had a 5.5" screen since 2012.

 

[Macboy Pro]

Not even if he told you it would have the exact same amount of icons on screen, but your thumb would have to reach 2" further to touch them?

2 inches? You discredit yourself. The larger of the two is only 1.5" bigger and you shouldn't even have to reach 1.5" further. LOL

 

[GekiRed]

This shortsighted mindset seems to miss the point that competition is what drives Apple to innovate. Building a larger iPhone was a direct response to larger smartphones. Just like the iPhone 4 blew everything out of the water in response to emerging threats in the newly emerging personal cell phone market.

Before there was competition consumers were begging Apple for basic functionality like MMS and landscape keyboards....that Apple told us we really didn't need. ("Just email your pictures.....")

Competition is best for consumers. Even if you are an Apple fan and a shareholder, you should still want competition around to keep pushing Apple to build better products. With the MS phones still lagging, I'm all for Android continuing to compete with Apple as hard as they can.

You're right in that competition is a good thing in that it forces Apple to innovate instead of bringing out the same generic iPhone with minimal changes.

As for the iPhone 6, I think that the only major advantage that it has right now over Android is the 128gb storage that the top of the range version has as well as Apple Pay for shopping purposes, and that's about it.

Whether it's truly enough to make the majority of Android users switch to the iPhone, nobody knows right now, to be honest.

 

[Trapezoid]

Very likely, but that has nothing to do with the topic

The point was simple: the Nexus 4 - iPhone 6 comparison is pretty funny, and while it's obvious to everyone that, leaving the software aside, the Nexus 4 is not a better device than Apple's latest (they were made several years apart), it's still remarkable how far behind iPhone is at this stage, that it's core feature set is barely on par with something as obsolete as a Nexus 4.

Of course, Apple fans who are nervous about the company's very noisy but rather thin record of innovation will call it "childish", "insecure" and other such things. But it merely shows their own shortcomings, q.e.d.

Now whos reading comprehension is off? What's childish is creating a graphic and littering it smug remarks saying nah nah nah we're better than you. That's what insecure children do.

I spoke nothing about the veracity of the graphic, simply pointed out the childish way it was presented. Like seriously, who would run and make something like this the minute the keynote was done, other than a child?

 

[symphara]

I spoke nothing about the veracity of the graphic, simply pointed out the childish way it was presented. Like seriously, who would run and make something like this the minute the keynote was done, other than a child?

"Like seriously", I would "totally" imagine someone other than a child making that.

 

[Trapezoid]

"Like seriously", I would "totally" imagine someone other than a child making that.

Nice non response. You're on a roll. I appreciate the efforts you're going to to prove my point.

 

[errorunknown]

They tried to copy Samsung's one-hand operation and it failed.

Image

That's meant to be used when you're holding it with one hand...

 

[nando87]

Basically all the people who really didn't like the size of their iphones will buy the new one, and that is quite everyone basically...


Oh wait, but " 4'' is the best, don't you see how many of them they sell? "