Apple CEO Tim Cook: iPhone X Has Been the Top Selling iPhone Every Week Since it Shipped

[ipponrg]

It's an issue of convenience. Say I am using my iPad in my living room and my phone is in my bedroom. With WhatsApp, I always had to make sure that my phone was right next to me so I didn't miss out on any incoming messages. With telegram and iMessage, I get them regardless of which device I am on. I can effortlessly receive and send texts from my iPad or Macs. Even my Apple Watch.

And it's easier to type longer message on a computer compared to a phone.

For me I never really have that problem because I habitually have my phone with me or around reach most of the time.

Using Slack as an example, if I'm away from my desktop, I usually get pings to my phone. In other words, my iPhone is always the end-all be-all receiver of all messaging.

In my opinion, it is one of the essential things most people carry with them on a daily basis. Arguably, I might be one of the few on this forum that does this.

 

[boltjames]

Great that Apple > Samsung.

Great that they released the 8/8+.

The X is expensive.
The notch is certainly not desireable.
FaceID V2 will no doubt work for all.

If the X were expensive it wouldn’t be Apple’s best selling iPhone every week since it’s launch.

The notch is very desirable. First, you don’t even notice it after a day. Second, it is the only way someone can glance at your phone and immediately know that you spent $1250.

Face ID is fantastic, I am averaging one failure a week if that. There is no better security on a smartphone then not even realizing you have security enabled.

 

[KidAKidB]

The reality is, there are those who want the iPhone X to fail because of their own disapproval for the notch, price point, etc. But I think iPhone X given its wide availability had a strong start and has a bright future with Face ID. Even with iPhone X being a top-selling iPhone, you will still have those who will claim it's a failure.

And I think a lot of the naysayers are the ones that wanted the X but couldn't afford it and are now wanting to see it fail since they couldn't get one. That being said, there are some valid criticisms for it though.

 

[russelljg]

If the X were expensive it wouldn’t be Apple’s best selling iPhone every week since it’s launch.

The notch is very desirable. First, you don’t even notice it after a day. Second, it is the only way someone can glance at your phone and immediately know that you spent $1250.

Face ID is fantastic, I am averaging one failure a week if that. There is no better security on a smartphone then not even realizing you have security enabled.

Do you honestly believe what you write?

I think you’re just trolling everyone....

 

[boltjames]

It’s mad, isn’t it?

And I’m still reading dumb articles in 2018 about what a niche, luxury, status symbol the iPhone is. That people buy them to be like rock stars and celebrities.

Its mad how the iPhone is supposed to simultaneously be this high end status symbol for the rich and elite, and this commodity that everyone and his dog now owns, sheeple that they are.

I mean, pick one, and stick with it.

I think you misunderstand. The iPhone X can be both.

It is a high-end smartphone for wealthy people. And there just happens to be a lot of wealthy people who only want the best. And the iPhone X is the best.

This is no different than all of the BMWs and Mercedes Benz you see on the road, you might think they are commonplace. It just means that the wealthy gravitate to those two brands. In some communities, there are more Mercedes and BMWs on the road then Hondas and Kia’s because you are in a wealthy community but it doesn’t matter; Hyundai and Kia people can’t afford the BMWs and the Mercedes.

It’s a result of concentration of wealth. iPhone X is commonplace in business class on United Airlines but an exclusive rarity in coach on Spirit Air.

 

[blackdogaudio]

Do you honestly believe what you write?

I think you’re just trolling everyone....

I can vouch for the low failure rate of Face ID and personally not noticing The Notch considering what I do with my X.

I cannot however vouch for the statement about whether folks notice I have a $1200 phone in my hand. Perhaps I'm wrong here but I would think anyone who could afford a $600 phone could afford a $1200 phone if they wanted it as a $600 difference in price with a one-time purchase doesn't define class differences in society the last time I checked.

 

[newellj]

I read Tim's comments and it just seems like he's completely icing the truth with colourful adjectives etc. I don't think it's as good as they would like us believe.

Please explain what possible relevance your "thinking" could have to Apple's reported financial results, which are reviewed by its independent auditor and filed with the SEC? I mean, if it "just seems" to you like he's "icing" the truth, should the federal government start an investigation? Take enforcement action? I'm really interested in how your "thinking" works here.

 

[boltjames]

I can vouch for the low failure rate of Face ID and personally not noticing The Notch considering what I do with my X.

I cannot however vouch for the statement about whether folks notice I have a $1200 phone in my hand. Perhaps I'm wrong here but I would think anyone who could afford a $600 phone could afford a $1200 phone if they wanted it as a $600 difference in price with a one-time purchase doesn't define class differences in society the last time I checked.

It’s not about the dollar amount in a vacuum. It’s about context.

Spend $600 on a bottle of wine it says something more about you than if you spent $30. $600 isn’t a lot of money but for a bottle of wine that can be polished off in 5 minutes at a dinner table it certainly is.

I just got back from a trip to the mall, needed a couple of dress shirts, I’m at Macy’s. In my left hand is a Charter Club shirt that costs $29. In my right hand is an identical shirt from Hugo Boss that costs $175. To a lot of people that Hugo Boss logo means everything. That’s what the notch (front) and vertical camera (back) is on the iPhone. A great big logo that tells the world that ain’t no $99 iPhone 6 bought used on Craigslist.

Some people forget that Apple is a luxury brand making premium products for the wealthy. They don’t make $300 Best Buy laptops, they make $2,500 MacBook’s. There are a lot of people who got free iPhones upon signing a contract with a carrier back in 2010 who seem to think they are entitled to that kind of quality at that kind of price forever.

Those days are over. A new iPhone is now MacBook. There are a lot of them out there but they are only in the hands of a certain caliber of people.

 

[blackdogaudio]

It’s not about the dollar amount in a vacuum. It’s about context.

Spend $600 on a bottle of wine it says something more about you than if you spent $30. $600 isn’t a lot of money but for a bottle of wine that can be polished off in 5 minutes at a dinner table it certainly is.

I just got back from a trip to the mall, needed a couple of dress shirts, I’m at Macy’s. In my left hand is a Charter Club shirt that costs $29. In my right hand is an identical shirt from Hugo Boss that costs $175. To a lot of people that Hugo Boss logo means everything. That’s what the notch (front) and vertical camera (back) is on the iPhone.

Frankly, I consider those folks who value labels as anything other than a sign of past performance with respect to quality perhaps (reputation) as delusional. Everything we buy should be based on whether it's fit for its purpose. If you are comparing two items that perform *exactly* the same and all else being equal - buy the cheaper of the two if there is a price difference.

P.S. There is a performance difference between the front camera of the X and the 8 as well as screen resolution. Whether the difference in price is worth it is each individual's decision.

 

[boltjames]

Frankly, I lump those folks who value labels as anything other than a sign of past performance with respect to quality perhaps (reputation) as delusional. Everything we buy should be based on whether it's fit for its purpose. If you are comparing two items that perform *exactly* the same and all else being equal - buy the cheaper of the two if there is a price difference.

We could talk for hours about what is righteous and what is wholesome but the fact is we live in a world full of show offs and status symbols. You may not identify as one and that’s fine, and you may think that people like that are shallow, and that’s fine. But you can’t deny that people like that exist. If they didn’t we’d all be driving Honda’s, eating at McDonalds, and shopping at Walmart.

Apple is a luxury brand that for a decade saw its premium smartphones given away for $0 or $99 by cellular carriers in an attempt to acquire profitable subscribers. Those days are over. Apple is now in iPhone what it has been for decades in MacBook; a luxury product line for a premium consumer. Some of whom are label concious.

 

[blackdogaudio]

We could talk for hours about what is righteous and what is wholesome but the fact is we live in a world full of show offs and status symbols. You may not identify as one and that’s fine, and you may think that people like that are shallow, and that’s fine. But you can’t deny that people like that exist. If they didn’t we’d all be driving Honda’s, eating at McDonalds, and shopping at Walmart.

Apple is a luxury brand that for a decade saw its premium smartphones given away for $0 or $99 by cellular carriers in an attempt to acquire profitable subscribers. Those days are over. Apple is now in iPhone what it has been for decades in MacBook; a luxury product line for a premium consumer. Some of whom are label concious.

Oh I don't doubt what you are saying isn't true. I simply can't fathom why they think this way. It only serves to degrade their quality of life if that's their decision making process.

 

[AppleScruff1]

We could talk for hours about what is righteous and what is wholesome but the fact is we live in a world full of show offs and status symbols. You may not identify as one and that’s fine, and you may think that people like that are shallow, and that’s fine. But you can’t deny that people like that exist. If they didn’t we’d all be driving Honda’s, eating at McDonalds, and shopping at Walmart.

Apple is a luxury brand that for a decade saw its premium smartphones given away for $0 or $99 by cellular carriers in an attempt to acquire profitable subscribers. Those days are over. Apple is now in iPhone what it has been for decades in MacBook; a luxury product line for a premium consumer. Some of whom are label concious.

A luxury product company that sells 250 million phones a year? And you can buy them at WalMart? And 10 year old kids have them? You mean that kind of luxury item owning premium consumer?

 

[blackdogaudio]

A luxury product company that sells 250 million phones a year? And you can buy them at WalMart? And 10 year old kids have them? You mean that kind of luxury item owning premium consumer?

Personally, I think it's great. We need every soccer mom and sixteen year old buying their products to ensure Apple's continued success in the future considering the size of the company now.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Personally, I think it's great. We need every soccer mom and sixteen year old buying their products to ensure Apple's continued success in the future considering the size of the company now.

Not a very exclusive club, is it?

 

[BuddyTronic]

We could talk for hours about what is righteous and what is wholesome but the fact is we live in a world full of show offs and status symbols. You may not identify as one and that’s fine, and you may think that people like that are shallow, and that’s fine. But you can’t deny that people like that exist. If they didn’t we’d all be driving Honda’s, eating at McDonalds, and shopping at Walmart.

Apple is a luxury brand that for a decade saw its premium smartphones given away for $0 or $99 by cellular carriers in an attempt to acquire profitable subscribers. Those days are over. Apple is now in iPhone what it has been for decades in MacBook; a luxury product line for a premium consumer. Some of whom are label concious.

You make a good point even though I don't like it. Today's world has a lot of people thinking about that branding show off stuff. It's like the bling factor of "Nike" shoes. It's the brand. It's "proof of wasting money" that is the sexy part of this silly show off game.

Interesting way to think about that "notch" - I certainly was not creative enough to think about it in that way, and it's a valid point. At a glance, the notch tells you the dude paid for the expensive one - and maybe some people care.

 

[blackdogaudio]

Not a very exclusive club, is it?

True...and we'll all benefit as long as they'll maintain quality.
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You make a good point even though I don't like it. Today's world has a lot of people thinking about that branding show off stuff. It's like the bling factor of "Nike" shoes. It's the brand. It's "proof of wasting money" that is the sexy part of this silly show off game.

Interesting way to think about that "notch" - I certainly was not creative enough to think about it in that way, and it's a valid point. At a glance, the notch tells you the dude paid for the expensive one - and maybe some people care.

That being the case, I'd have to put the impressed along with those wishing to impress into the same sad basket. I suspect most other folks would as well.

 

[john123]

And I think a lot of the naysayers are the ones that wanted the X but couldn't afford it and are now wanting to see it fail since they couldn't get one.

This elitist speculation is growing tiresome.

There's zero evidence to support what you say. There is common sense against it. In an era with INTEREST FREE PAYMENT PLANS there's a rather small segment of the U.S. population that "couldn't afford" the X but could afford an 8. On a 30 month agreement, we are talking about a difference of $10 a month. TEN DOLLARS.

Whether people CHOOSE to spend their money on the X is different than whether they can "afford" it.

Stop pretending that everyone who is skeptical of or downright dislikes the X is some jealous impoverished pleb.
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Double digit growth all over the place with Apple though, so I think this will be appreciated soon and the stock will go up.

It's ridiculous that it is lower - even with a bad day for the entire market. It's just absurd.

Double Digit Growth for the largest revenue company?

Please compare to anything else out there.

It's not absurd. Stock prices are based on expectations of future growth, not past performance. I'm not taking a position (here and now in this thread) one way or another, but the solid Q1 performance and the stock decline are perfectly consistent with the belief of some analysts that the X is a novelty product that would (and did) sell well initially but quickly lose steam.

 

[imageWIS]

Yet again, Tim Cook ISN'T worth his $103 million compensation last year!

 

[blackdogaudio]

Yet again, Tim Cook ISN'T worth his $103 million compensation last year!

Worth is just an opinion.

But if it makes you feel better, I find most items aren't worth their asking price.

 

[Burger Thing]

The notch is very desirable. First, you don’t even notice it after a day. Second, it is the only way someone can glance at your phone and immediately know that you spent $1250.

Personally I find spending so much money for this thing ridiculous. So if I notice someone holding a phone with a notch, i rather feel sorry for him. But if I knew that the person holding the iPX wanted me to know that he spent so much, I would think he is a Word Class Idiot.

 

[blackdogaudio]

Personally I find spending so much money for this thing ridiculous. So if I notice someone holding a phone with a notch, i rather feel sorry for him. But if I knew that the person holding the iPX wanted me to know that he spent so much, I would think he is a Word Class Idiot.

Traverse nine floors of a busy hospital every day with both hands juggling boxed equipment, parts, your laptop, and a phone and Face ID becomes your new best friend.

Now if I could just get Siri to understand "swipe up and open messages" so my vtext pages would open in all their glory....

 

[44267547]

And I think a lot of the naysayers are the ones that wanted the X but couldn't afford it and are now wanting to see it fail since they couldn't get one. That being said, there are some valid criticisms for it though.

It's not just about those who "Couldn't" afford the X, it's also about those who disapprove of the price point for something that doesn't appeal to them, rather it be the Notch, Lack of Touch ID, ect. I think there are plenty of iPhone owners who could afford the X, but passed because it didn't meet their own expectations, which is understandable. Which is why the iPhone 8 and other iPhone models exist for options in varying price points.

 

[boltjames]

Oh I don't doubt what you are saying isn't true. I simply can't fathom why they think this way. It only serves to degrade their quality of life if that's their decision making process.

Your soapboxing is duly noted. Just because you don't understand why some behave the way they do doesn't make them wrong. It just makes you close-minded. Let me tell you, my quality of life isn't "degraded" because I choose luxury brands like Rolex, Hugo Boss, BMW, and Apple. They make brilliant products, high quality, innovative, great design. The fact that others view them as status symbols only for the wealthy? That's on them, not me.

 

[Leguna24]

Don’t know how anyone can trust what they say, I mean they confidently didn’t tell anyone about the throttling, and they confidently do not tell you individual sales figures. You basically just have to trust what he says.....

If Apple were so confident they should separate their sales figures, it’s obvious the X has driven their ridiculous profit though and it seems they now rely even more on one product line!! Despite a drop in sales.

Do you trust other companies? If so, which are they?

 

[boltjames]

A luxury product company that sells 250 million phones a year? And you can buy them at WalMart? And 10 year old kids have them? You mean that kind of luxury item owning premium consumer?

My 10 year olds had $0 iPhone 5C's just a few years ago, hardly "luxurious" pricing. But the phones themselves cost upwards of $600. It was AT&T that discounted them, not Apple. Apple has always made the most expensive smartphones. It's only the last two years that the carriers stopped the subsidies that people were forced to pay list price.

I suggest you take a visit to China, visit a factory town where they have open sewers and hunt the wild dogs in the streets for family dinner. Then you can tell me what people can/can't afford and what is/isn't a luxury.