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Wow, their newest flagship phone is selling better than their 3-year old design? I'm shocked.
 
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Mmm what is a CEO going to say its a bust?


Of course of course. He must be publically lying to everyone while MacRumors forum users know the very truth like every bloody time.
It must be a bad day for haters.
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Ok smart boy.. can you explain why or is this because you are just silly speaking on the behalf of a corporate?

He is actually quite right. We have in this forum users who would try to spin any news into a bad news and talk endlessly about product failures. Kind of makes you wonder about their real agenda here.... you know.
 
But WSJ and Nikkei said Apple was slashing orders 50%.
Yeah, how do those reported cutbacks tie in with today's rosy earnings call? We'll have to wait till May's Q2 earnings call to see if the 'X honeymoon' is over, with the early adopters all having received their units by now.

Also Apple does not break down individual iPhone sales figures, so we basically have to take Tim's word that the X has been their top seller. It is a beautiful and very advanced phone to be sure, but the price is holding many back.
 
ASP in Q1 2015 was $687 with the iPhone 6 / 6 Plus having base prices of $629 / $749
ASP in Q1 2016 was $691 with the iPhone 6s / 6s Plus having base prices of $649 / $749
ASP in Q1 2017 was $695 with the iPhone 7 / 7 Plus having base prices of $649 / $769

Base prices for the iPhone 8 / 8 Plus are $699 / $799. If those were the only two models Apple sold, ASPs should have risen to a bit over $700 based on previous movements and taking into account the $50 increase in the iPhone 8's price compared to the 6s and 7.

The only way you get a $101 increase in ASP is because you sold a shedload of $999 of iPhone Xs (and more likely a shedload of $1149 iPhone Xs).

The problem with this summation is that each year the pricing of the previous models fall ... both in full retail pricing, and in contracts. Further some of these models get more of a discount (as I mentioned T-Mobile USA is offering buy 1 iPhone X on 2yr contract, get the second at 50% off), so more units could be "sold" or "shipped" yet the ASP would be affected (negatively) so it would skew this. Now let's see any other providers / retailers if their doing the same for iPhone 6S, SE, 7, and the 8.

Either way ... Q1 2017's ASP for all the models sold then is slightly lower than the ASP for Q1 2018 due to the higher pricing of the iPhone 8 and the iPhone X ... these also skew a typical relative year for year presumption does it not? Am I missing something here?
 
Getting pissed at the X and hating on it for the price is like hating Ford for introducing a premium F-150.

People are just pissed they can’t afford it.
 
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Wow, top seller every week! What an amazing phone and amazing quarter from Apple!!
 
Only in 3 of their global markets, 8 outsold the X in the others. Of course he’s going to spin it. Why would they be cutting production, to make it more exclusive?! LOL.
Don’t believe any rumor about production, you can’t take it as true. Maybe they lowered production since it is natural in life cycle, after the initial orders, usually you but less considering the 1 year lifetime. Also iPhone 8 SHOULD sell more than X. Considering price point X is a incredible success.
 
Don’t know how anyone can trust what they say, I mean they confidently didn’t tell anyone about the throttling, and they confidently do not tell you individual sales figures. You basically just have to trust what he says.....

If Apple were so confident they should separate their sales figures, it’s obvious the X has driven their ridiculous profit though and it seems they now rely even more on one product line!! Despite a drop in sales.
 
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Hearing on the radio now that they have sold less units.
Confused.
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You think Apple's CEO is lying about which device is most popular on an earnings call?

There's no fix for that kind of paranoia.
Not saying he is lying but if someone who has the power to authorise military action can lie so can some nobody that just sells a handful of phones.
 
Mmm what is a CEO going to say its a bust?
He didn’t have to say it was the best selling iPhone out of the ones currently on sale. He could have just made a vague statement about being pleased about the response to the iPhone X. The phone is selling well people need to deal with that.
 
Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean you think it is a failure. I don't like it because of the price point, but sadly it won't fail. Too many people who are scared to switch even when Andriod devices are SO STRONG, and exceed the iphone in many ways.

Maybe those of us who don't like it see how other [products] have caught up and say to ourselves for example "why is google now so awesome, and siri sucks for so many years." Maybe there are people on here who just demand better.

I say that your 10k watch, dongles, and 1600 iphone and tell Tim Cook to shove it!

One can also ask - how can Apple produce and sell over 200 million iPhones a year while google can’t keep enough of a low demand, low volume product like the pixel in stock in one single country?

Each company has its respective strengths and weaknesses. Google has the scale and the users. Apple’s services can never be as good as Google’s, because Apple’s business model all but guarantees that they can never have as many users as google.

What Apple can do is “cheat” by using software / hardware integration to make their services work more conveniently and seamlessly than the rest of the competition, and hope this makes up for the loss in quality.

In the same vein, google lacks Apple’s hardware distribution channels. Singapore just got its first Apple store, giving me a 1-stop solution for all my Apple shopping needs and troubleshooting. If my pixel broke down, it would be a lot more problematic.

I think there is a fine line between demanding better, and being realistic.
 
Yes.

They also sell more X per week since November than they sell 6s Plus. OR 7. OR 7 Plus. OR 8. OR 8 Plus.

What Cook is NOT saying is that they sell more iPhone X than they do 6s AND 6s Plus AND 7 AND 7 Plus AND 8 AND 8 Plus combined.

The comparison is being made on an individual model basis, not a total basis.
That’s impressive considering it’s much more expensive but is still the best selling model.
 
No surprise, those who said the x would be a failure are just people looking to hate to justify what phone they have or simply can’t afford it and clearly won’t admit so

Apple crushes the market as always in sales
 
No surprise, those who said the x would be a failure are just people looking to hate to justify what phone they have or simply can’t afford it and clearly won’t admit so

Apple crushes the market as always in sales

I think there's a much subtler story here. Everywhere I look the story is:- sales down (a bit), profit up (a bit). However, in other 'news' there's a confusing product line up, quality has slipped (particularly in software) and they haven't managed to crack China or India as yet (from what I've seen reported). Perhaps none of that matters and a company can continue to increase profits without expanding its customer base but we'll see. The next couple of years are going to be fascinating.
 
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Never doubted that the X was the top selling iPhone for Apple. I still don’t believe it’s worth the buy, but never had a doubt about its appeal to many others.

There are those who chose not to go with the X AND actually aren’t looking for Apple to fail.

Why it has to be so black and white around here is beyond me.

Fanboyism and the belief that Apple can do no wrong.

Oh, and I own an iPhone X. It is no doubt a lovely phone. I had that feeling of 'hmm not sure it's worth the asking price' and after months of owning it, I still feel it's not worth the asking price. At the end of the day I wanted it so I paid the money regardless.
 
No surprise, those who said the x would be a failure are just people looking to hate to justify what phone they have or simply can’t afford it and clearly won’t admit so

Apple crushes the market as always in sales
Yes its bound to be the most popular since the 8 didn't look 'new' and that's all some people care about, but as far as value for money sorry not for me. It's is still a phone and many can't justify the price tag because what does it really do that makes it that much better than other phones? This from someone that can afford it, hell I spent enough on my 2017 iMac but I saw value for my work flow there, but didn't see £1000 worth of value in the X. I kept with my iPhone 7 because it works fine and I didn't need to update this year. I went and looked at the iPhone X it felt great hell it looked lovely, I didn't mind the loss of a home button either but it wasn't £1000 better than my phone in my view.

I also try to avoid the first version of any new product as there will be hardware issues and refinements in the second generation, even then I still wont spend over £1000 on a phone, no matter who makes it because I really don't care about how amazing face ID is or an animated Emoji which may be fun for the first week, because that's still not worth that much to me personally. I don't care about the latest and subjectivity greatest that isn't important, value for money for is.
 
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I ordered my iPhone X on day one and have no regrets. Size is perfect, excellent camera and performance. All Apple has to do is to fix some random issues with iOS 11.
 
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Only in 3 of their global markets, 8 outsold the X in the others. Of course he’s going to spin it. Why would they be cutting production, to make it more exclusive?! LOL.

Oh for goodness sake, now its spin to say that the X was the biggest selling iPhone overall, because it might not have been the biggest selling iPhone in some markets? And you're accusing Cook of spin?
 
I think there's a much subtler story here. Everywhere I look the story is:- sales down (a bit), profit up (a bit). However, in other 'news' there's a confusing product line up, quality has slipped (particularly in software) and they haven't managed to crack China or India as yet (from what I've seen reported). Perhaps none of that matters and a company can continue to increase profits without expanding its customer base but we'll see. The next couple of years are going to be fascinating.

Indeed. I look forward to the Apple Watch gaining independence from the iPhone and going on to form the lynchpin of its own ecosystem of wearables.

AR glasses. Health trackers. The skies’ the limit.
 
Who cares when the software running on it is crap. Yes the gestures are slick, Face ID is ok although still not there yet, OLED screen is great, but the notch cuts into full screen content no matter how many ways you slice it, iOS 11 is a fail with lags and bugs and doesn't take advantage of the X at all. At this point I couldn't care less about the hardware, I'm much more interested in iOS 12 and if Apple really will address all the bugs and its poor performance by today's standards. Only then will I consider buying. I'm just not going to give them 1k of my money when their software is so poor lately. I returned mine solely because of it and won't be buying from them again unless they redeem it.
 
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